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Half the 150 million spent last season recouped with 3 player sales! 19:52 - Aug 16 with 2907 viewsBlueOsterClub

With the fees received for Hutchinson , Delap and Broadhead thats almost half of last seasons spend recouped all ready. If the Muric loan becomes permeant and we receive a fee eventually that will be more than half last seasons spend back.

From our signings last season we still have

Jack Clark
Sammie Szmodics
Greaves
O Shea
Phiigene
Ogbene
Ben Johnson

Have I missed anybody?
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Half the 150 million spent last season recouped with 3 player sales! on 20:05 - Aug 16 with 2174 viewsIllinoisblue

Uppa accounting balancing the books Blues.

62 - 78 - 81
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Half the 150 million spent last season recouped with 3 player sales! on 20:08 - Aug 16 with 2132 viewsFrimleyBlue

Also.. we've got a new multi million sponsor. That will go towards it too

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Half the 150 million spent last season recouped with 3 player sales! on 20:15 - Aug 16 with 2077 viewsblueoutlook

Yes, nearly reaching the goal old Brett put in that email. Still think there was more to that than meets the eye. No smoke without fire. The club scrambled to dampen it because it wasn’t for our eyes. It was definitely a slip up there I think.
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Half the 150 million spent last season recouped with 3 player sales! on 20:16 - Aug 16 with 2067 viewsredrickstuhaart

The question is, do we have a better side?

I say that without Burgess and Morsy, the answer is probably no.
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Half the 150 million spent last season recouped with 3 player sales! on 20:27 - Aug 16 with 1982 viewsEverydayblue

Half the 150 million spent last season recouped with 3 player sales! on 20:16 - Aug 16 by redrickstuhaart

The question is, do we have a better side?

I say that without Burgess and Morsy, the answer is probably no.


Luongo is the forgotten guy.... He was a perfect partner for Morsy. And got the best out of Burgess, playing in front of him and being a compatriot seemed to settle Burgess more, imo. Goes without saying that Morsy will be hard to replace..
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Half the 150 million spent last season recouped with 3 player sales! on 20:30 - Aug 16 with 1928 viewsburnbudgiesburn

Half the 150 million spent last season recouped with 3 player sales! on 20:16 - Aug 16 by redrickstuhaart

The question is, do we have a better side?

I say that without Burgess and Morsy, the answer is probably no.


Well we don't have the same team spirit, pattern of play or understanding. I think that's natural. That team had 2-3 seasons together.

But we without doubt have improved the book value & quality potential of the playing squad.
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Half the 150 million spent last season recouped with 3 player sales! on 21:00 - Aug 16 with 1801 viewsGarv

Half the 150 million spent last season recouped with 3 player sales! on 20:16 - Aug 16 by redrickstuhaart

The question is, do we have a better side?

I say that without Burgess and Morsy, the answer is probably no.


We must have a hell of a lot of faith in Greaves to be so happy to let Burgess walk/not offer a better deal in terms of years and minutes. Criminally underused last season.

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Half the 150 million spent last season recouped with 3 player sales! on 21:23 - Aug 16 with 1717 viewsbraveblue

And some on here say it’s been bad!!
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Half the 150 million spent last season recouped with 3 player sales! on 21:26 - Aug 16 with 1685 viewstextbackup

Half the 150 million spent last season recouped with 3 player sales! on 21:23 - Aug 16 by braveblue

And some on here say it’s been bad!!


We are in the league below where we were when those signings were made.

Not entirely sure how that’s not bad (purely in footballing terms)

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Half the 150 million spent last season recouped with 3 player sales! on 21:33 - Aug 16 with 1636 viewsredrickstuhaart

Half the 150 million spent last season recouped with 3 player sales! on 20:30 - Aug 16 by burnbudgiesburn

Well we don't have the same team spirit, pattern of play or understanding. I think that's natural. That team had 2-3 seasons together.

But we without doubt have improved the book value & quality potential of the playing squad.


I hear you.

But is our right back better? No.

Is Greaves better than Burgess? No

Do we have a midfielder who can match Morsy? No

Do we have a right winger / sub to match hutch? No

Do we have an effective left sided attacker? No

The key points in the previous side are still missing.
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Half the 150 million spent last season recouped with 3 player sales! on 21:34 - Aug 16 with 1623 viewsClutch

Half the 150 million spent last season recouped with 3 player sales! on 20:16 - Aug 16 by redrickstuhaart

The question is, do we have a better side?

I say that without Burgess and Morsy, the answer is probably no.


Then last time we were in the championship? Of course we do, massively better players.
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Half the 150 million spent last season recouped with 3 player sales! on 21:35 - Aug 16 with 1611 viewsTheBoyBlue

Half the 150 million spent last season recouped with 3 player sales! on 21:26 - Aug 16 by textbackup

We are in the league below where we were when those signings were made.

Not entirely sure how that’s not bad (purely in footballing terms)


Because we're not bankrupt and we have a young team capable of taking us straight back up. But still, I guess we could've signed lots of Premier League mercenaries without relegation clauses and carried on down to L1.

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Half the 150 million spent last season recouped with 3 player sales! on 21:40 - Aug 16 with 1587 viewsredrickstuhaart

Half the 150 million spent last season recouped with 3 player sales! on 21:34 - Aug 16 by Clutch

Then last time we were in the championship? Of course we do, massively better players.


Really? Clarke v broadhead / sarmiento?

Ogbene and philogene v Burns and Hutch?

No Morsy, no burgess? No Axel. No Williams. Not even a jack clarke it appears.
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Half the 150 million spent last season recouped with 3 player sales! on 21:47 - Aug 16 with 1531 viewsSuffolkPunchFC

Half the 150 million spent last season recouped with 3 player sales! on 21:33 - Aug 16 by redrickstuhaart

I hear you.

But is our right back better? No.

Is Greaves better than Burgess? No

Do we have a midfielder who can match Morsy? No

Do we have a right winger / sub to match hutch? No

Do we have an effective left sided attacker? No

The key points in the previous side are still missing.


Have to completely disagree on all of these points. They maybe didn’t (yet) fulfil their potential last season, but are very likely to this season.
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Half the 150 million spent last season recouped with 3 player sales! on 21:52 - Aug 16 with 1500 viewstextbackup

Half the 150 million spent last season recouped with 3 player sales! on 21:35 - Aug 16 by TheBoyBlue

Because we're not bankrupt and we have a young team capable of taking us straight back up. But still, I guess we could've signed lots of Premier League mercenaries without relegation clauses and carried on down to L1.


What if they’d kept us up?

You’ve considered the worse case scenario, but not the best case

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Half the 150 million spent last season recouped with 3 player sales! on 21:56 - Aug 16 with 1479 viewsredrickstuhaart

Half the 150 million spent last season recouped with 3 player sales! on 21:47 - Aug 16 by SuffolkPunchFC

Have to completely disagree on all of these points. They maybe didn’t (yet) fulfil their potential last season, but are very likely to this season.


That remains to be seen. We hope so, clearly.

So far, its very much unclear.
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Half the 150 million spent last season recouped with 3 player sales! on 22:01 - Aug 16 with 1426 viewsTheBoyBlue

Half the 150 million spent last season recouped with 3 player sales! on 21:52 - Aug 16 by textbackup

What if they’d kept us up?

You’ve considered the worse case scenario, but not the best case


Because you have to. Why would Gamechanger rebuild this club (which they haven't finished doing by a long chalk by the way) only to blow it on the off-chance that we might stay up which you have have to accept is the less likely option.

The reward of taking that chance and it succeeding is monumental, but the consequence of failure could be catastrophic to a club like ours, as we've discovered in the past. I'd we take the slow and careful long-term approach to success.

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Half the 150 million spent last season recouped with 3 player sales! on 22:02 - Aug 16 with 1412 viewsBlue_Moses

Half the 150 million spent last season recouped with 3 player sales! on 21:34 - Aug 16 by Clutch

Then last time we were in the championship? Of course we do, massively better players.


The last time we were in the championship we didn't have parachute money
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Half the 150 million spent last season recouped with 3 player sales! on 22:02 - Aug 16 with 1409 viewsbluefunk

Half the 150 million spent last season recouped with 3 player sales! on 21:33 - Aug 16 by redrickstuhaart

I hear you.

But is our right back better? No.

Is Greaves better than Burgess? No

Do we have a midfielder who can match Morsy? No

Do we have a right winger / sub to match hutch? No

Do we have an effective left sided attacker? No

The key points in the previous side are still missing.


Hmmm…

Who should I trust to know who are the better players? McKenna or some random poster on the internet….its a conundrum.
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Half the 150 million spent last season recouped with 3 player sales! on 22:03 - Aug 16 with 1403 viewsBlue_Moses

Half the 150 million spent last season recouped with 3 player sales! on 21:40 - Aug 16 by redrickstuhaart

Really? Clarke v broadhead / sarmiento?

Ogbene and philogene v Burns and Hutch?

No Morsy, no burgess? No Axel. No Williams. Not even a jack clarke it appears.


Jury still out on those as far as performances in a town shirt are concerned
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Half the 150 million spent last season recouped with 3 player sales! on 22:04 - Aug 16 with 1391 viewsBlue_Moses

Half the 150 million spent last season recouped with 3 player sales! on 22:02 - Aug 16 by bluefunk

Hmmm…

Who should I trust to know who are the better players? McKenna or some random poster on the internet….its a conundrum.


Obviously McKenna but people are allowed to have an opinion, otherwise this forum is pointless.
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Half the 150 million spent last season recouped with 3 player sales! on 22:10 - Aug 16 with 1345 viewsPhilTWTD

Half the 150 million spent last season recouped with 3 player sales! on 22:01 - Aug 16 by TheBoyBlue

Because you have to. Why would Gamechanger rebuild this club (which they haven't finished doing by a long chalk by the way) only to blow it on the off-chance that we might stay up which you have have to accept is the less likely option.

The reward of taking that chance and it succeeding is monumental, but the consequence of failure could be catastrophic to a club like ours, as we've discovered in the past. I'd we take the slow and careful long-term approach to success.


I'm not sure the situation is quite so binary. I'm not sure Sunderland's approach this year is guaranteed that they will find themselves in trouble if they go down.

I think there's a general consensus Town didn't get their approach right last summer, the lack of Premier League experience was something which was a concern at the time. Since then Mark Ashton has said the club has learnt from last year's experience and will be looking at a different profile of player going forward, looking at players with more physicality.
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Half the 150 million spent last season recouped with 3 player sales! on 22:10 - Aug 16 with 1329 viewsbluefunk

Half the 150 million spent last season recouped with 3 player sales! on 22:04 - Aug 16 by Blue_Moses

Obviously McKenna but people are allowed to have an opinion, otherwise this forum is pointless.


Opinions are like *rseholes, everyone has one, and some are informed, some are simply nonsense.
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Half the 150 million spent last season recouped with 3 player sales! on 22:31 - Aug 16 with 1249 viewsTheBoyBlue

Half the 150 million spent last season recouped with 3 player sales! on 22:10 - Aug 16 by PhilTWTD

I'm not sure the situation is quite so binary. I'm not sure Sunderland's approach this year is guaranteed that they will find themselves in trouble if they go down.

I think there's a general consensus Town didn't get their approach right last summer, the lack of Premier League experience was something which was a concern at the time. Since then Mark Ashton has said the club has learnt from last year's experience and will be looking at a different profile of player going forward, looking at players with more physicality.


Yep, I don't shy away from the club getting things wrong and that the club have admitted it too. But I assume they didn't just decide to only go for young Championship players rather than experienced Premier League players and that rather we just couldn't get any on our terms?

To be fair I can't say I have an in depth knowledge of Sunderland's current situation so it is unfair of me to say they'll be in trouble if they go down, but if we'd just gone all out signing expensive players no matter what then I guess there is a danger in that too.

It's just this constant discourse the that we've been reckless and wasteful with our recruitment whereas in the circumstances we've actually set up with a solid and promising team for future years in a sensible fashion in the circumstances.

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Half the 150 million spent last season recouped with 3 player sales! on 22:41 - Aug 16 with 1164 viewsFrimleyBlue

Half the 150 million spent last season recouped with 3 player sales! on 22:10 - Aug 16 by PhilTWTD

I'm not sure the situation is quite so binary. I'm not sure Sunderland's approach this year is guaranteed that they will find themselves in trouble if they go down.

I think there's a general consensus Town didn't get their approach right last summer, the lack of Premier League experience was something which was a concern at the time. Since then Mark Ashton has said the club has learnt from last year's experience and will be looking at a different profile of player going forward, looking at players with more physicality.


I'd love to know tho who genuinely thought that squad last season was good enough for prem survival.

They made a big thing of not making up the numbers but apart from competing early on. We never came close.

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