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Downes 16:39 - Aug 17 with 2141 viewsMetal_Hacker

I’ve never been a believer that he would be the answer and watching him today confirmed my thoughts

Not suggesting he’s not a tidy player at this level but aren’t we looking for someone / something more than a disrupter / bruiser ? Once Azor gets up to speed I think he’ll be solid alongside Jens but with a third thrown into the equation , it wouldn’t be Downes for me

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Downes on 16:43 - Aug 17 with 2046 viewsbluesym

If Downes wasn't an ex player,I doubt as many people would be pining for him so much.

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Downes on 16:50 - Aug 17 with 1949 viewsjasondozzell

Flynn is a lot more of a player than a disruptor/bruiser. That does him a total disservice.
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Downes on 16:52 - Aug 17 with 1911 viewsMetal_Hacker

Downes on 16:50 - Aug 17 by jasondozzell

Flynn is a lot more of a player than a disruptor/bruiser. That does him a total disservice.


As I say I struggle to see it but happy to disagree and accept another opinion

He’s just not for me and thinking we need more than a player such as him

Today we missed a midfielder breaking the lines

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Downes on 17:04 - Aug 17 with 1746 viewsGarv

We need someone with a goal threat, which presumably Hackney would offer. Azor won't get goals, Cajuste got one last year.

I wonder if, for all our supposed attacking flair, we end up being involved in quite a lot of low scoring games. With Johnson, Young, O'Shea and Greaves, we should be pretty solid and the attacking unit is going to need a lot of knitting together.

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Downes on 17:25 - Aug 17 with 1544 viewsbilllm

Hes a good player,
Stuck somewhere between the championship and premiership,
For any team wanting aspirations of staying in the premiership no you cant justify to much of an outlay for him,
He will be at Southampton a long while,
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Downes on 17:57 - Aug 17 with 1343 viewsmellowblue

Best midfielder on the pitch today. Very tidy but needs to be so much more daring. Plays very safely as if he is protecting his Opta passing stats. I felt the same when he was with us and he has not developed. I can see why West Ham did not see him as a Rice replacement. Too vanilla. But technically very good.
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Downes on 18:00 - Aug 17 with 1301 viewsSwansea_Blue

Downes on 17:04 - Aug 17 by Garv

We need someone with a goal threat, which presumably Hackney would offer. Azor won't get goals, Cajuste got one last year.

I wonder if, for all our supposed attacking flair, we end up being involved in quite a lot of low scoring games. With Johnson, Young, O'Shea and Greaves, we should be pretty solid and the attacking unit is going to need a lot of knitting together.


Why do we need our double pivot players to offer a goal threat? Chipping in with 2 or 3 would be more than enough.

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Downes on 18:09 - Aug 17 with 1207 viewsAxeldalai_lama

Downes on 18:00 - Aug 17 by Swansea_Blue

Why do we need our double pivot players to offer a goal threat? Chipping in with 2 or 3 would be more than enough.


Yeah, I don't get the goals/ getting forward argument from some. We're struggling a bit in the middle precisely because Taylor is a bit of both and neither. We need another disrupter in there. What we need the midfielder to do is distribute with a better range and quicker pace than perhaps we had with Morsy etc, that would be the improvement, not goal contributions.
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Downes on 18:22 - Aug 17 with 1127 viewsmellowblue

Downes on 18:09 - Aug 17 by Axeldalai_lama

Yeah, I don't get the goals/ getting forward argument from some. We're struggling a bit in the middle precisely because Taylor is a bit of both and neither. We need another disrupter in there. What we need the midfielder to do is distribute with a better range and quicker pace than perhaps we had with Morsy etc, that would be the improvement, not goal contributions.


just need someone who can link to the attackers better with good vision and passing ability. A purely defensive double pivot is not enough.
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Downes on 19:10 - Aug 17 with 933 viewsAxeldalai_lama

Downes on 18:22 - Aug 17 by mellowblue

just need someone who can link to the attackers better with good vision and passing ability. A purely defensive double pivot is not enough.


That's true, but to me that just needs someone with quick feet and vision. Not a marauder who needs to get forwards and absolutely contribute goals and assists specifically.
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Downes on 19:19 - Aug 17 with 836 viewsSwansea_Blue

Downes on 18:22 - Aug 17 by mellowblue

just need someone who can link to the attackers better with good vision and passing ability. A purely defensive double pivot is not enough.


Is Pirlo still playing? If he was 3 or 4 years younger and not just moved in the last 6 months someone like Matt Grimes would have fit the bill. Looks after the ball in tight spaces, technical and can pick a pass. I’m not sure who else is around who might be suitable. But I think I agree. Someone who can link play and also a safe pair of hands under pressure would be good. They don’t need to be charging up the pitch and getting 8-10 goals a season though (although if someone can do both…).

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Downes on 19:28 - Aug 17 with 755 viewsTractor_Boy333

Downes on 16:43 - Aug 17 by bluesym

If Downes wasn't an ex player,I doubt as many people would be pining for him so much.


I agree completely. Didn’t see anything special from him today and didn’t see anything special from him in the season before he left.

If he wasn’t an ex player we wouldn’t even be talking about him. Didn’t make it with West Ham. Was he the best midfield on the pitch today. Possibly but Towns midfield will improve and think we just need to move on from him.
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Downes on 20:27 - Aug 17 with 537 viewsBouncebackIpswich

Agree 100%, he would be absolutely perfect for Town now. A shame Saints won't let him go to us.
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Downes on 20:30 - Aug 17 with 504 viewsPinewoodblue

Downes on 18:22 - Aug 17 by mellowblue

just need someone who can link to the attackers better with good vision and passing ability. A purely defensive double pivot is not enough.


Humphreys offers what you are looking for.

Alternatively include Woolfenden and play three at the back.

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