| As much as i like McKenna and still have confidence in him 17:44 - Aug 23 with 1120 views | CopfordBlue |
in hindsight it would have been better all round if he’d left last summer.
Once we’d got over the disappointment and a minority had called him the names that some do after any player or manager leaves on their terms, he’d have secured his place as one of our greatest managers ever. As it is unfortunately that now seems unlikely to be his legacy. He’ll either be sacked or if he leaves of his own accord to go elsewhere it will leave a sour taste after receiving so much support when his record over the last 40 odd games would have got him the sack from almost every other club in the country. [Post edited 23 Aug 17:44]
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| As much as i like McKenna and still have confidence in him on 17:49 - Aug 23 with 1028 views | ottovonbismark |
he didn't leave, the board didn't want him to leave, the fans didn't want him to leave.
all of this is slowly changing, results can't be ignored forever, KM has it within his own power to change his approach to the game but he doesn't. That's on him and he will in time have to accept the consequences of that.
I am convinced that Ashton does not want to sack him under any circumstances.
I am now convinced that not only do we need a new manager but also a new CEO - the club has lost direction. It's up to the owners to act. | | | |
| As much as i like McKenna and still have confidence in him on 17:53 - Aug 23 with 977 views | CopfordBlue |
| As much as i like McKenna and still have confidence in him on 17:49 - Aug 23 by ottovonbismark |
he didn't leave, the board didn't want him to leave, the fans didn't want him to leave.
all of this is slowly changing, results can't be ignored forever, KM has it within his own power to change his approach to the game but he doesn't. That's on him and he will in time have to accept the consequences of that.
I am convinced that Ashton does not want to sack him under any circumstances.
I am now convinced that not only do we need a new manager but also a new CEO - the club has lost direction. It's up to the owners to act. |
I think your message highlights what is going to be an issue in the next few weeks if things don’t improve. Ashton will start getting stick and when a chairman or CEO starts feeling the heat they tend to get rid of the manager. | |
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| As much as i like McKenna and still have confidence in him on 17:54 - Aug 23 with 956 views | jasondozzell |
We lost a game of football. We lost one here last year too.
Get a grip! |  | | |
| As much as i like McKenna and still have confidence in him on 17:59 - Aug 23 with 894 views | CopfordBlue |
| As much as i like McKenna and still have confidence in him on 17:54 - Aug 23 by jasondozzell |
We lost a game of football. We lost one here last year too.
Get a grip! |
It’s not about today. I’m not saying he should be sacked or I want him to go. It’s the opposite of that, maybe I didn’t choose my words as well as i should. Reading the forum and seeing all the stick directed at him feels wrong. I don’t believe any manager would have kept us up last season with the squad and budget he had. It feels wrong that he’s being slated after all he’s done. | |
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| As much as i like McKenna and still have confidence in him on 18:01 - Aug 23 with 876 views | keighleyblue |
Utter tripe. Are you for real? |  | | |
| As much as i like McKenna and still have confidence in him on 18:01 - Aug 23 with 870 views | ottovonbismark |
| As much as i like McKenna and still have confidence in him on 17:53 - Aug 23 by CopfordBlue |
I think your message highlights what is going to be an issue in the next few weeks if things don’t improve. Ashton will start getting stick and when a chairman or CEO starts feeling the heat they tend to get rid of the manager. |
I agree but I cannot see how Ashton can be exonerated from all of this. He is equally culpable for what is happening, recruitment across the board in terms of players, coaches etc has been totally inept and we are now paying the price for it.
What bugs me most is so much money has been spent to watch what we see on the football pitch. How can it be defended? | | | |
| As much as i like McKenna and still have confidence in him on 18:03 - Aug 23 with 828 views | Everydayblue |
| As much as i like McKenna and still have confidence in him on 17:53 - Aug 23 by CopfordBlue |
I think your message highlights what is going to be an issue in the next few weeks if things don’t improve. Ashton will start getting stick and when a chairman or CEO starts feeling the heat they tend to get rid of the manager. |
What heat?
I think you're imagining things. | | | |
| As much as i like McKenna and still have confidence in him on 18:04 - Aug 23 with 820 views | The_Flashing_Smile |
Jesus Christ, we're only 3 games in and he hasn't got his full squad together yet. |  |
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| As much as i like McKenna and still have confidence in him on 18:04 - Aug 23 with 807 views | CopfordBlue |
| As much as i like McKenna and still have confidence in him on 18:01 - Aug 23 by keighleyblue |
Utter tripe. Are you for real? |
What part is tripe? That if he’d left at the end of his second full season after back to promotions he wouldn’t be forever regarded as one of our best ever managers or that mangers with 4 wins in 41 league games usually keep their job? [Post edited 23 Aug 18:05]
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| As much as i like McKenna and still have confidence in him on 18:05 - Aug 23 with 782 views | jasondozzell |
| As much as i like McKenna and still have confidence in him on 18:01 - Aug 23 by ottovonbismark |
I agree but I cannot see how Ashton can be exonerated from all of this. He is equally culpable for what is happening, recruitment across the board in terms of players, coaches etc has been totally inept and we are now paying the price for it.
What bugs me most is so much money has been spent to watch what we see on the football pitch. How can it be defended? |
Do you think we can at least let it get to 10 games before all of this nonsense starts in earnest? | | | |
| As much as i like McKenna and still have confidence in him on 18:28 - Aug 23 with 690 views | braveblue |
After 2 draws and one loss!! | | | |
| As much as i like McKenna and still have confidence in him on 18:43 - Aug 23 with 590 views | The_Flashing_Smile |
| As much as i like McKenna and still have confidence in him on 18:04 - Aug 23 by The_Flashing_Smile |
Jesus Christ, we're only 3 games in and he hasn't got his full squad together yet. |
What part of my factual statement are you downarrowing Copford? [Post edited 23 Aug 18:43]
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| As much as i like McKenna and still have confidence in him on 18:45 - Aug 23 with 556 views | CopfordBlue |
| As much as i like McKenna and still have confidence in him on 18:43 - Aug 23 by The_Flashing_Smile |
What part of my factual statement are you downarrowing Copford? [Post edited 23 Aug 18:43]
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You’ve completely misinterpreted my OP. That’s probably on me for not articulating my point better but to pretend that this is all about the last 3 games is daft and you know it. | |
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| As much as i like McKenna and still have confidence in him on 18:45 - Aug 23 with 550 views | pointofblue |
| As much as i like McKenna and still have confidence in him on 18:04 - Aug 23 by The_Flashing_Smile |
Jesus Christ, we're only 3 games in and he hasn't got his full squad together yet. |
The "not a full squad" excuse is slightly infuriating. The current squad should be more than good enough to get at least a point, if not three, from Preston. Even without the five or six players we seemingly still need just to fight for promotion. | |
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| As much as i like McKenna and still have confidence in him on 18:54 - Aug 23 with 486 views | longtimefan |
“ He’ll either be sacked or if he leaves of his own accord to go elsewhere “
Isn’t that every manager ever! | | | |
| As much as i like McKenna and still have confidence in him on 18:55 - Aug 23 with 477 views | ITFCSG |
| As much as i like McKenna and still have confidence in him on 18:04 - Aug 23 by The_Flashing_Smile |
Jesus Christ, we're only 3 games in and he hasn't got his full squad together yet. |
It isn't just 3 games, we have been $hite for the vast majority of games (barring Bournemouth, Chelsea and Everton A) since Jan | | | |
| As much as i like McKenna and still have confidence in him on 18:58 - Aug 23 with 464 views | Swansea_Blue |
| As much as i like McKenna and still have confidence in him on 17:59 - Aug 23 by CopfordBlue |
It’s not about today. I’m not saying he should be sacked or I want him to go. It’s the opposite of that, maybe I didn’t choose my words as well as i should. Reading the forum and seeing all the stick directed at him feels wrong. I don’t believe any manager would have kept us up last season with the squad and budget he had. It feels wrong that he’s being slated after all he’s done. |
I think that’s fair, but your opening post is a bit premature. Maybe he won’t be able to fix this, but he has pulled us out of slumps before. Granted, not by buying his way out. My fear is that the more players we get the more confused and muddled we get. I think that’s why he’s sticking with the likes of Clarke to see if we can start developing partnerships.
When we start making wholesale changes is probably when we need to worry that he’s losing it. Clarke, Philogene and Sammie downplay a lot of football last year. And with Azor and Taylor behind them that’s almost a new midfield/forward line that needs to get used to each other. I think we need time (I hope that’s all it is and I’m not sure how much time). |  |
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| As much as i like McKenna and still have confidence in him on 18:58 - Aug 23 with 463 views | CopfordBlue |
| As much as i like McKenna and still have confidence in him on 18:54 - Aug 23 by longtimefan |
“ He’ll either be sacked or if he leaves of his own accord to go elsewhere “
Isn’t that every manager ever! |
Of course it is but if he leaves to join another club now there will be a lot of supporters who won’t forgive him after the support shown to him. | |
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| As much as i like McKenna and still have confidence in him on 19:03 - Aug 23 with 438 views | longtimefan |
| As much as i like McKenna and still have confidence in him on 18:58 - Aug 23 by CopfordBlue |
Of course it is but if he leaves to join another club now there will be a lot of supporters who won’t forgive him after the support shown to him. |
Not so sure about that. Given the mood of this board tonight there seems to be lots of ludicrously impatient supporters who would seemingly be happy to see him go. Your OP demonstrates you have no confidence in him turning around performances. | | | |
| As much as i like McKenna and still have confidence in him on 19:09 - Aug 23 with 411 views | blueoutlook |
| As much as i like McKenna and still have confidence in him on 18:01 - Aug 23 by keighleyblue |
Utter tripe. Are you for real? |
It’s not really though is it ? 2 wins in 40 ? Any other manager would have been long gone. Yes he has done a great job here, but he is stubborn as hell and won’t change things. Ashton isn’t free from this either. He doesn’t seem to want to kick him up the arse to get it sorted. |  | | |
| As much as i like McKenna and still have confidence in him on 20:24 - Aug 23 with 272 views | ottovonbismark |
| As much as i like McKenna and still have confidence in him on 18:28 - Aug 23 by braveblue |
After 2 draws and one loss!! |
we've won one competitive game of football in 2025, which of course you are well aware of. [Post edited 23 Aug 20:26]
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| As much as i like McKenna and still have confidence in him on 22:22 - Aug 23 with 123 views | The_Flashing_Smile |
| As much as i like McKenna and still have confidence in him on 18:45 - Aug 23 by CopfordBlue |
You’ve completely misinterpreted my OP. That’s probably on me for not articulating my point better but to pretend that this is all about the last 3 games is daft and you know it. |
Who are you trying to kid? You're lashing out now because of the start to the season, else why weren't you posting it before?
That's why this board is full of silly posters posting silly thoughts. You'll all crawl back under your rocks once we get the squad together, it starts gelling and we start winning.
This place is pathetic at the moment. | |
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| As much as i like McKenna and still have confidence in him on 22:38 - Aug 23 with 63 views | Libero |
Get your name on the list, lad. x
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| As much as i like McKenna and still have confidence in him on 22:39 - Aug 23 with 56 views | CopfordBlue |
| As much as i like McKenna and still have confidence in him on 22:22 - Aug 23 by The_Flashing_Smile |
Who are you trying to kid? You're lashing out now because of the start to the season, else why weren't you posting it before?
That's why this board is full of silly posters posting silly thoughts. You'll all crawl back under your rocks once we get the squad together, it starts gelling and we start winning.
This place is pathetic at the moment. |
“Silly posters“ “crawl back under your rocks”. Calm yourself down.
I’m not lashing out at all. I’ve said I’ve still got confidence in KM. That’s a sincere comment. You’ve totally missed the point of what of my OP which as I’ve already said is my fault for not articulating my point better. The point I was (badly) trying to make is that there’s an increasing proportion of the fanbase who are questioning signings, decisions, tactics, every aspect really. Completely understandable after the way things have gone over the past year but still not great considering the incredible things he achieved in his first 2 and a half years here.
Right now, I think it’s entirely reasonable to say that had he left in Summer 2024, he’d be forever considered among our best ever managers and pretty much the entire fanbase would have him on a pedestal forever . [Post edited 23 Aug 22:43]
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