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Immigration 07:39 - Aug 27 with 6272 viewsnoggin

The Jews, Irish, Afro Caribbeans, South Asians, Muslims, Eastern Europeans, and now, asylum seekers. I wonder which group will be next for the xenophobes.


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Immigration on 07:42 - Aug 28 with 688 viewsBenters

Immigration on 07:35 - Aug 28 by Swansea_Blue

I saw a St George’s cross on a mini roundabout in Swansea the other day. Thick as mince. Although in fairness you’d probably need an art degree to produce a passable impression of the Welsh flag with a paint roller.


I saw one yesterday in Colchester I wonder what kind of paint they use,it must be quick drying.

Gentlybentley
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Difficult one, but maybe it’ll be…. on 07:43 - Aug 28 with 686 viewsBenters

Difficult one, but maybe it’ll be…. on 09:31 - Aug 27 by DropCliffsNotBombs

Make sure you give Zapers our regards


Zapers is a lovely bloke.

Gentlybentley
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Immigration on 07:45 - Aug 28 with 674 viewsSwansea_Blue

Immigration on 07:42 - Aug 28 by Benters

I saw one yesterday in Colchester I wonder what kind of paint they use,it must be quick drying.


Has to be. Never mind the traffic, just getting those red stripes onto the white without it bleeding must be a challenge.

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Immigration on 08:05 - Aug 28 with 635 viewswitchdoctor

Immigration on 08:38 - Aug 27 by noggin

How many, as a % were people of colour? A rough estimate will do.


why are you so bothered?..you slung your hook years ago…
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Immigration on 08:12 - Aug 28 with 598 viewsBenters

Immigration on 07:45 - Aug 28 by Swansea_Blue

Has to be. Never mind the traffic, just getting those red stripes onto the white without it bleeding must be a challenge.


Well yes it was very neat as it goes,as old AP would say ‘they clearly had talent’.

Gentlybentley
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Immigration on 08:38 - Aug 28 with 536 viewsorfordbuoy

Immigration on 07:31 - Aug 28 by Swansea_Blue

You seem to have invented that in your head. Noggers hasn’t referred to white working class Brits. Texters made that “simplistic, divisive” leap and you’ve jumped on it. Anyone can be xenophobic and/or racist irrespective of skin colour or social background. Some of the significant characters leading the tilt towards xenophobia and racism in the UK have been very privileged and not always white (e.g. Braverman and Patel in government, and Farage’s ex-mate Yusuf, all privileged and 2nd gen immigrants themselves; Farage himself, privileged, etc).

He is taking the piss out of people, of any background, who abuse others on the basis of race though.


lovely to see you defending your friend and his classist agenda. It's the way many 50-year-olds operate on the forum. Play the man, not the ball. Still ....

The example he gives as a xenophobe is, 'Have another Stella and go and shout at a hotel, or something'

I doubt very much Braverman and Patel and his ex-pat demographic partake in such activities. don't you? So he is not taking 'the piss out of people of any background', he is targetting his favourite scapegoats - the white, working class.
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Immigration on 08:56 - Aug 28 with 498 viewsSwansea_Blue

Immigration on 08:38 - Aug 28 by orfordbuoy

lovely to see you defending your friend and his classist agenda. It's the way many 50-year-olds operate on the forum. Play the man, not the ball. Still ....

The example he gives as a xenophobe is, 'Have another Stella and go and shout at a hotel, or something'

I doubt very much Braverman and Patel and his ex-pat demographic partake in such activities. don't you? So he is not taking 'the piss out of people of any background', he is targetting his favourite scapegoats - the white, working class.


I haven’t played the man at all. I just pointed out that you’re misrepresenting what another poster has said.

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Immigration on 08:58 - Aug 28 with 493 viewsLeaky

Immigration on 21:07 - Aug 27 by noggin

Stella first, just to steady the paintbrush hand.


Yor out of touch mate , you use a roller not a paint brush, brushes only used for cutting in ask any pdecorator
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Difficult one, but maybe it’ll be…. on 09:28 - Aug 28 with 445 viewsblueasfook

Difficult one, but maybe it’ll be…. on 07:43 - Aug 28 by Benters

Zapers is a lovely bloke.


I have met him. Nice guy yeah. I keep in touch with him on WhatsApp. Cant say I've ever met a TWTD poster actually who wasn't a nice person. But then there's a lot I havent met!

"Blueas is a great guy, one of the best." - Donald Trump
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Difficult one, but maybe it’ll be…. on 09:54 - Aug 28 with 392 viewsDJR

Difficult one, but maybe it’ll be…. on 09:28 - Aug 28 by blueasfook

I have met him. Nice guy yeah. I keep in touch with him on WhatsApp. Cant say I've ever met a TWTD poster actually who wasn't a nice person. But then there's a lot I havent met!


Politically we came at things from different angles, but I had a lovely interaction with him not long before he was banned.

The gist of it was our acknowledgement that you can still get along with people whatever their views.
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Difficult one, but maybe it’ll be…. on 09:56 - Aug 28 with 371 viewsblueasfook

Difficult one, but maybe it’ll be…. on 09:54 - Aug 28 by DJR

Politically we came at things from different angles, but I had a lovely interaction with him not long before he was banned.

The gist of it was our acknowledgement that you can still get along with people whatever their views.


Yep, worth remembering too that people aren't often really like their online personas.

I am actually a vegan leftie IRL.

"Blueas is a great guy, one of the best." - Donald Trump
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Immigration on 10:09 - Aug 28 with 343 viewsorfordbuoy

Immigration on 08:56 - Aug 28 by Swansea_Blue

I haven’t played the man at all. I just pointed out that you’re misrepresenting what another poster has said.


not really. Noggin has a history of taking a cheap pop at the working classes. As I pointed out - and you have conveniently ignored - stella drinking and shouting at hotels is probably not what Bravermann and Patel and his ex-pat community do.

It-s quite clear who he blames for the ills of society (and it aint the middle-classes).

Still, it's sweet how you are prepared to defend him and his classist agenda.
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Immigration on 11:09 - Aug 28 with 309 viewsnoggin

Immigration on 10:09 - Aug 28 by orfordbuoy

not really. Noggin has a history of taking a cheap pop at the working classes. As I pointed out - and you have conveniently ignored - stella drinking and shouting at hotels is probably not what Bravermann and Patel and his ex-pat community do.

It-s quite clear who he blames for the ills of society (and it aint the middle-classes).

Still, it's sweet how you are prepared to defend him and his classist agenda.


"It-s quite clear who he blames for the ills of society (and it aint the middle-classes)."

Nope, I have always made it clear that I blame the rich and their enablers, including Braverman and Patel. It's in their interests to stoke the flames of hatred.

Oh, and please could you show everyone where I've taken 'cheap shots at the working classes'?
I mean, I can almost guarantee you that I grew up in a poorer household than you. I served for 12 years, as a junior rank, and I've been a paramedic for the last 26 years. I make that, pretty working class, don't you think?

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Immigration on 11:15 - Aug 28 with 294 viewsnoggin

Immigration on 23:29 - Aug 27 by Bigalhunter

That’s attracted the disapproval of something called ‘bluebudgie’ with its usual mute downvote.

I assume it’s some sort of Norwich/Ipswich hybrid with a beak in each camp, seething away quietly at the erosion of indigenous white privilege in a half and half scarf.

Come on, don’t be coy, tweet up and share your concerns, we’re all friends here…


Be patient Al, it takes time to write a well researched and articulate response. Bluebudgie will give us his thoughts soon.

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Immigration on 11:17 - Aug 28 with 290 viewsleitrimblue

Immigration on 10:09 - Aug 28 by orfordbuoy

not really. Noggin has a history of taking a cheap pop at the working classes. As I pointed out - and you have conveniently ignored - stella drinking and shouting at hotels is probably not what Bravermann and Patel and his ex-pat community do.

It-s quite clear who he blames for the ills of society (and it aint the middle-classes).

Still, it's sweet how you are prepared to defend him and his classist agenda.


Stop stereotyping the working class mate. Some of us feck1n hate Stella and barely ever drape ourselves in some sh1te flag and shout at hotels
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Immigration on 11:26 - Aug 28 with 260 viewsorfordbuoy

Immigration on 11:09 - Aug 28 by noggin

"It-s quite clear who he blames for the ills of society (and it aint the middle-classes)."

Nope, I have always made it clear that I blame the rich and their enablers, including Braverman and Patel. It's in their interests to stoke the flames of hatred.

Oh, and please could you show everyone where I've taken 'cheap shots at the working classes'?
I mean, I can almost guarantee you that I grew up in a poorer household than you. I served for 12 years, as a junior rank, and I've been a paramedic for the last 26 years. I make that, pretty working class, don't you think?


Come on, you let the cat out of the bag, on this occasion, with, 'Have another Stella and go and shout at a hotel, or something'

I suppose next you'll be saying - to try to undo what you have revealed - 'I went to live abroad to further my plumbing and brick-laying skills'

You've shown your true colours, why try to cover that up now?
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Immigration on 11:53 - Aug 28 with 198 viewsDJR

Immigration on 11:26 - Aug 28 by orfordbuoy

Come on, you let the cat out of the bag, on this occasion, with, 'Have another Stella and go and shout at a hotel, or something'

I suppose next you'll be saying - to try to undo what you have revealed - 'I went to live abroad to further my plumbing and brick-laying skills'

You've shown your true colours, why try to cover that up now?


If one equates working class to social grades D and E and the long term unemployed, roughly 22% of working age people in England fall into that group.

Not all will be white, but I imagine we are talking about well in excess of 10 million "white working class".

When it comes to protests outside hotels, I can't imagine that those taking part recently amount to much over 10,000, if even that.

That doesn't make them representative of the white working class, so I think you are wrong to construe Noggin's comments in the way you have.
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Immigration on 11:58 - Aug 28 with 179 viewsorfordbuoy

Immigration on 11:53 - Aug 28 by DJR

If one equates working class to social grades D and E and the long term unemployed, roughly 22% of working age people in England fall into that group.

Not all will be white, but I imagine we are talking about well in excess of 10 million "white working class".

When it comes to protests outside hotels, I can't imagine that those taking part recently amount to much over 10,000, if even that.

That doesn't make them representative of the white working class, so I think you are wrong to construe Noggin's comments in the way you have.
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do you really think noggin went to the trouble to AI material to post his crude/simplistic attack on the 'stella-drinking' working classes?

Give over, man.
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Immigration (n/t) on 12:01 - Aug 28 with 162 viewsMattinLondon

Immigration on 11:58 - Aug 28 by orfordbuoy

do you really think noggin went to the trouble to AI material to post his crude/simplistic attack on the 'stella-drinking' working classes?

Give over, man.


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Immigration on 12:01 - Aug 28 with 160 viewsDJR

Immigration on 11:58 - Aug 28 by orfordbuoy

do you really think noggin went to the trouble to AI material to post his crude/simplistic attack on the 'stella-drinking' working classes?

Give over, man.


They're not true patriots if they're drinking a Belgian beer.
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Immigration on 12:02 - Aug 28 with 157 viewsorfordbuoy

Immigration on 12:01 - Aug 28 by DJR

They're not true patriots if they're drinking a Belgian beer.


... and who are 'they'?
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Immigration on 12:03 - Aug 28 with 147 viewsMattinLondon

Immigration on 12:02 - Aug 28 by orfordbuoy

... and who are 'they'?


The people shouting at hotels draped in Union flags.
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Immigration (n/t) on 12:03 - Aug 28 with 146 viewsorfordbuoy

Immigration (n/t) on 12:01 - Aug 28 by MattinLondon

[Post edited 28 Aug 12:02]


wow! - only the toffs drink stella, right?
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Immigration on 12:04 - Aug 28 with 138 viewsorfordbuoy

Immigration on 12:03 - Aug 28 by MattinLondon

The people shouting at hotels draped in Union flags.


class?
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Immigration on 12:04 - Aug 28 with 137 viewsorfordbuoy

Immigration on 12:04 - Aug 28 by orfordbuoy

class?


remember ..... they drink stella
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