| Measure of progress 07:57 - Sep 2 with 889 views | bsw72 |
Reading back through the posts in the last 24 hours I note one of the concerns is the fact we now have Baggott and Humphreys in the squad as cover.
Just to re-iterate, some people are concerned about the quality of our 4th and 5th choice centre back and midfielder.
It was only just over 3 years ago we were concerned with the quality of our first choice in those (and other) positions.
Before I get flamed for the fact we have this "£200M squad" etc etc, I am just trying to set some context that we have progressed under the current leadership and have the potential of an amazing squad.
It will now be a measure of the skill of McKenna to mould this team, or was 22-24 a happy fluke? [Post edited 2 Sep 8:00]
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| Measure of progress on 08:11 - Sep 2 with 787 views | boroughblue |
Whilst I get your point, I think a lot of people are concerned we have got rid of the hard working team unit old gang and (expensively) replaced them with players that were not sure are any better, something I like we’re all wondering about on some level I would speculate.
I do really think Chaplins departure is the killer, every other player who left over the summer made sense despite (most of them) still hurting, but I and many others are struggling to see the logic in him leaving. Considering the type of person he is, arguably being the best player in his position and the fact he feckin started Saturday.
Nonetheless, I’m fully behind the club, and I’m itching for us to be back out on the pitch and get that first win! |  | | |
| Measure of progress on 08:19 - Sep 2 with 715 views | textbackup |
That’s all well and good… let’s just hope come the end of October we have a min of 3 wins under our belts and getting the season up and running.
The longer we go without getting that win, or climbing the table, the more difficult everything becomes. |  |
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| Measure of progress on 08:32 - Sep 2 with 654 views | flykickingbybgunn |
It's time for KMcK to show that the B2B was not a fluke.
Over to you Kieran. |  | | |
| Measure of progress on 08:46 - Sep 2 with 623 views | bsw72 |
| Measure of progress on 08:11 - Sep 2 by boroughblue |
Whilst I get your point, I think a lot of people are concerned we have got rid of the hard working team unit old gang and (expensively) replaced them with players that were not sure are any better, something I like we’re all wondering about on some level I would speculate.
I do really think Chaplins departure is the killer, every other player who left over the summer made sense despite (most of them) still hurting, but I and many others are struggling to see the logic in him leaving. Considering the type of person he is, arguably being the best player in his position and the fact he feckin started Saturday.
Nonetheless, I’m fully behind the club, and I’m itching for us to be back out on the pitch and get that first win! |
I would hope everyone on this list is behind the club, apart from the obvious trollers, although school's back now :-).
Chaplin is a great discussion point and I think fans have a much more a more romantic view based on his prior contributions in the League 1 promotion rather than recent contributions and future potential this season. I do not think that Chaplin has had a significant impact on matches since mid season 23-24.
He was outstanding in 22-23 and carried that in 23-24 up to around mid December 23, scoring 9 and contributing 7 assists. From start of 22-23 to mid December 23 he scored 35 league goals in 67 matches, pretty much a goal every other game, plus 12 assists.
I remember that there was discussion on here about how Chaplin's form seemed to drop in the second half of the Championship season, luckily the impact of that drop was lessened by Omari developing and filling the gap (Omari scored 9 of his 10 goals from mid December), so impact was not felt.
Since the start of the year in 2024, Chaplin has scored 6 goals in 42 league matches (5 in 20 at Champ level and 1 in 22 at PL level) and 3 assists (2 in Champ and 1 in PL). He was hampered with a knee injury at start of this year which will have impacted, as will the step up in levels from League 1 to Champ to PL, but his level of impact and contribution to the team and results has without doubt dropped.
Now compare that contribution to some others, who are maybe not looked at so fondly because of price tag they came with and the fact they were not members of the double promotion team - obvs looking at the PL season only.
Szmodics - Played 20, 4 goals but no assists (Hampered by injury significantly)
J Clarke - Played 31, 4 assists but no goals.
Philogene - Played 10, 2 goals
I agree the above have not set the world on fire but everyone struggled last season, but what they contributed are on a par at least with Chaplin, however they are judged much more harshly.
If people are able to judge Chaplin without clouding the judgement based on contributions from 18 months ago, I think it is clear that moving on was probably best for both parties.
It also means that the likes of Szmodics, Philogene and Clarke (plus other new arrivals) now have to be used in the best way by McKenna, and deliver what is needed. | | | |
| Measure of progress on 08:51 - Sep 2 with 582 views | nrb1985 |
| Measure of progress on 08:32 - Sep 2 by flykickingbybgunn |
It's time for KMcK to show that the B2B was not a fluke.
Over to you Kieran. |
LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL.
A fluke over 2 x 46 game season.
Righto. | | | |
| Measure of progress on 08:53 - Sep 2 with 542 views | bsw72 |
| Measure of progress on 08:51 - Sep 2 by nrb1985 |
LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL.
A fluke over 2 x 46 game season.
Righto. |
I would read the fluke reference is more relating to how well and quickly the team clicked and got success, rather than getting lucky results over 92 matches (unless you ask Leeds fans). | | | |
| Measure of progress on 09:00 - Sep 2 with 454 views | urbanpenguin |
People also complained that we didn't have enough "home-grown" youngsters coming through. We still don't have many, but I'd argue that having two in the squad is good. |  | | |
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| Measure of progress on 09:04 - Sep 2 with 415 views | nrb1985 |
| Measure of progress on 08:53 - Sep 2 by bsw72 |
I would read the fluke reference is more relating to how well and quickly the team clicked and got success, rather than getting lucky results over 92 matches (unless you ask Leeds fans). |
still a total nonsense in view of the fact everybody whose ever said anything about KM in public mentions his work ethic, diligence and meticulous planning etc.
"The harder I work, the luckier I get" | | | |
| Measure of progress on 09:10 - Sep 2 with 368 views | Marshalls_Mullet |
I'm delighted to see Baggott and Humphreys in the squad, I hope they get some game time.
It's great to see home grown players supplement the uber expensive, all star squad.
Are they good enough? We don't know yet, but I'm excited to find out. [Post edited 2 Sep 9:58]
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| Measure of progress on 09:40 - Sep 2 with 235 views | bsw72 |
| Measure of progress on 09:04 - Sep 2 by nrb1985 |
still a total nonsense in view of the fact everybody whose ever said anything about KM in public mentions his work ethic, diligence and meticulous planning etc.
"The harder I work, the luckier I get" |
No-one is disputing his efforts etc, no need to be so overly sensitive, it's not a direct criticism of KMK.
I know a lot of people who work hard etc but all admit there is an element of fortune about a set of individuals will click versus another as you start to put a team together, and how quickly it happens. The human element is always unknown when building a unit from individuals. | | | |
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