| Leaders in the squad 08:49 - Sep 2 with 1329 views | IPSWICHFANITFC |
It's been a high turnover of players that have been a big part of the core in recent years. Losing Sam Morsy was a massive blow, but losing members that you would've assumed were part of the senior heads/leadership team like Chaplin, Luongo and Burgess makes it a tough task for the current crop to step up and fill those boots.
Off the pitch you would imagine those names would be the ones offering advice and giving support to new players to settle in etc, lifting the standards in training and just keeping things under control. On the pitch, they would bring composure on the ball, be vocal and just raise their game to lift others around them.
They were leaders on and off the pitch and if you saw those names on the team sheet, we all felt comfortable in the stands. Even if we lost a game, you felt the leaders in the squad would make sure we'd get it right the following week.
I look at the squad now and I don't see enough leadership quality. It's a squad that's trying to regain its confidence with big pressure to get promoted back to the Premier League. Big money transfers haven't got going and don't look better than what we've just let go this summer - certainly in an attacking sense. Early days on a couple of them, but I think you know who I'm talking about.
O'Shea, Young, Walton, Cajuste, Davis, Palmer, Hirst - these names spring to mind about who could be the leaders in the squad, but a couple of them I'm putting in half heartedly. Are there any other leaders? It doesn't feel like a strong leadership group.
Maybe I'm being a bit OTT, but it kind of feels like we've gone back to the summer when Paul Cook brought in a whole new squad and it took time to build connections between fans and players, the squad took time to come together etc. We saw what happened that season. I hope I'm wrong, but it feels like a massive gamble. There's definitely more quality on paper this season compared to our previous season in the Championship, but they're yet to show that on the pitch. I guess football is a high risk/high reward business and we will see what happens. |  |
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| Leaders in the squad on 09:09 - Sep 2 with 1234 views | yorkshireblue |
Greaves and Matusiwa both (on field) captained their clubs aged 21. Furlong has captained WBA many times. |  | | |
| Leaders in the squad on 09:16 - Sep 2 with 1203 views | Guthrum |
Furlong and Szmodics can be added to that list. The former has held Captaincy roles at West Brom. The latter is very experienced and seems a strong character. |  |
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| Leaders in the squad on 09:22 - Sep 2 with 1146 views | PhilTWTD |
| Leaders in the squad on 09:09 - Sep 2 by yorkshireblue |
Greaves and Matusiwa both (on field) captained their clubs aged 21. Furlong has captained WBA many times. |
Greaves was in the leadership group last season, he told us the other day. |  | | |
| Leaders in the squad on 09:27 - Sep 2 with 1105 views | FrimleyBlue |
I'm sure if they already are, but if not, i'd introduce Philogene and Clarke J to the foundation and get them involved in all the community stuff the other lads were, when you start to feel the connection of the local community that's what drives your performances, alongside working alongside great teammates. |  |
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| Leaders in the squad on 09:46 - Sep 2 with 993 views | Bluemike31 |
This is the problem, I don't think we have a single leader in the true sense of the word, certainly nobody like Morsy, we may have senior players but born leaders ? Not for me.
If I was pushed on it I would say Ashley Young and to a lesser degree O'Shea & Greaves, aside from that we are struggling. |  | | |
| Leaders in the squad on 11:39 - Sep 2 with 837 views | textbackup |
Morsy was a once in a generation type of captain/leader.
That said, we have Young, Furlong, DOS, Azor, Leif who have all been about their previous clubs (Leif ITFC) and have those qualities. |  |
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| Leaders in the squad on 11:47 - Sep 2 with 799 views | yesjohn99 |
| Leaders in the squad on 09:22 - Sep 2 by PhilTWTD |
Greaves was in the leadership group last season, he told us the other day. |
‘Lads, if someone touches your hair, fall down in a heap’. | | | |
| Leaders in the squad on 11:51 - Sep 2 with 771 views | nshearman1 |
| Leaders in the squad on 09:22 - Sep 2 by PhilTWTD |
Greaves was in the leadership group last season, he told us the other day. |
Jeez. Sums it up. | | | |
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| Leaders in the squad on 11:57 - Sep 2 with 733 views | textbackup |
| Leaders in the squad on 11:47 - Sep 2 by yesjohn99 |
‘Lads, if someone touches your hair, fall down in a heap’. |
If he was leading me I’d walk the other way | |
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| Leaders in the squad on 12:00 - Sep 2 with 728 views | mellowblue |
| Leaders in the squad on 09:22 - Sep 2 by PhilTWTD |
Greaves was in the leadership group last season, he told us the other day. |
Leif said the same in an interview. Given his long experience at the club, that is to be expected. Barcelona have always selected their captains by time spent in the club at first team level, . Not sure I agree with it though. | | | |
| Leaders in the squad on 12:13 - Sep 2 with 647 views | WestStanderLaLaLa |
| Leaders in the squad on 11:47 - Sep 2 by yesjohn99 |
‘Lads, if someone touches your hair, fall down in a heap’. |
He’s won 85% of his aerial duels. Which is higher than OShea 75% and Burgess 74%. |  |
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| Leaders in the squad on 12:14 - Sep 2 with 639 views | Guenchev_Boncho |
As others have pointed out, there are enough 'leaders' in the group (i.e. those that have captained at previous clubs etc), however, by nature of the turnover, there is no clear and obvious Mr. Ipswich.
From the current squad, Hirst, Clarke and Burns are closest to being that connection from the fans to the team, and the culture and values of the club to the pitch. It will take time for that culture to be instilled, visits to Foundation and community projects etc. Those experiences have to be lived.
For those reasons, along with the football reasons, I think we have turned over too many, too quickly. The business rationale for not offering Mass, Morsey, Burge an additional year is clear, but the cost of not bridging this cultural divide we have created might be greater, and prove significantly more costly this season.
The work required in training and on the pitch is fairly obvious and is without doubt the biggest test of KmC's managerial career to date. Vital that Ashton and the senior leadership are visible and accelerate this cultural integration with the new players over the coming weeks and months.
For what it's worth I have faith we will get to where we need to be this season. | | | |
| Leaders in the squad on 12:15 - Sep 2 with 629 views | Bellevue_Blue |
| Leaders in the squad on 12:13 - Sep 2 by WestStanderLaLaLa |
He’s won 85% of his aerial duels. Which is higher than OShea 75% and Burgess 74%. |
Not facts! The kryptonite of a good 50% of posters.
But what about the fact Kyogo pushed him over? | | | |
| Leaders in the squad on 12:23 - Sep 2 with 571 views | textbackup |
| Leaders in the squad on 12:13 - Sep 2 by WestStanderLaLaLa |
He’s won 85% of his aerial duels. Which is higher than OShea 75% and Burgess 74%. |
How many dives has he taken when touched? Is there a stat for this? | |
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| Leaders in the squad on 12:34 - Sep 2 with 517 views | mellowblue |
| Leaders in the squad on 12:13 - Sep 2 by WestStanderLaLaLa |
He’s won 85% of his aerial duels. Which is higher than OShea 75% and Burgess 74%. |
aerial duels is a false stat. It completely ignores the situations when he should have been in a duel, usually because of his poor positioning or having been drawn upfield. | | | |
| Leaders in the squad on 12:46 - Sep 2 with 460 views | darkhorse28 |
| Leaders in the squad on 11:39 - Sep 2 by textbackup |
Morsy was a once in a generation type of captain/leader.
That said, we have Young, Furlong, DOS, Azor, Leif who have all been about their previous clubs (Leif ITFC) and have those qualities. |
They really don’t have those qualities.., Leif leads by example, he doesn’t take you around the back, give you a straightener and MAKE you run harder and want it more (if that’s what you need).
The leadership point is true, it’s a vacuum .., I’m sure one or two can and will step forward.., but it’s an entire culture Morsy, Massimo, Burgess and Chaplin built.
You run.., you work.., you want it more than your opponent.
Chaplins first words at Portsmouth.
Let’s get to work.
That says it all.
We have a culture which let’s be honest, isn’t that. Time will tell. | | | |
| Leaders in the squad on 12:58 - Sep 2 with 408 views | Ryorry |
| Leaders in the squad on 12:14 - Sep 2 by Guenchev_Boncho |
As others have pointed out, there are enough 'leaders' in the group (i.e. those that have captained at previous clubs etc), however, by nature of the turnover, there is no clear and obvious Mr. Ipswich.
From the current squad, Hirst, Clarke and Burns are closest to being that connection from the fans to the team, and the culture and values of the club to the pitch. It will take time for that culture to be instilled, visits to Foundation and community projects etc. Those experiences have to be lived.
For those reasons, along with the football reasons, I think we have turned over too many, too quickly. The business rationale for not offering Mass, Morsey, Burge an additional year is clear, but the cost of not bridging this cultural divide we have created might be greater, and prove significantly more costly this season.
The work required in training and on the pitch is fairly obvious and is without doubt the biggest test of KmC's managerial career to date. Vital that Ashton and the senior leadership are visible and accelerate this cultural integration with the new players over the coming weeks and months.
For what it's worth I have faith we will get to where we need to be this season. |
Spot on 👏🏻 |  |
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| Leaders in the squad on 13:05 - Sep 2 with 382 views | textbackup |
| Leaders in the squad on 12:46 - Sep 2 by darkhorse28 |
They really don’t have those qualities.., Leif leads by example, he doesn’t take you around the back, give you a straightener and MAKE you run harder and want it more (if that’s what you need).
The leadership point is true, it’s a vacuum .., I’m sure one or two can and will step forward.., but it’s an entire culture Morsy, Massimo, Burgess and Chaplin built.
You run.., you work.., you want it more than your opponent.
Chaplins first words at Portsmouth.
Let’s get to work.
That says it all.
We have a culture which let’s be honest, isn’t that. Time will tell. |
How do you know Chaplin said that?
Not everything to be a leader is about aggression. | |
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| Leaders in the squad on 14:38 - Sep 2 with 239 views | tcblue |
Westlake (who is excellent on commentary I think) made a relevant point about this on Saturday, that when we concede the heads drop and there isn't really anyone (on the pitch) obviously pulling the lads together and giving them a pep talk / rollocking.
There's lots of different leadership styles, though, and we don't know how the team best responds. One of the many things I trust KM in is leadership, and I'd hope he's good at seeing whom his trusted on-field generals are. But as an armchair know nothing, it would be nice to see O'Shea doing some hairdryer treatments | | | |
| Leaders in the squad on 14:49 - Sep 2 with 202 views | nshearman1 |
| Leaders in the squad on 12:58 - Sep 2 by Ryorry |
Spot on 👏🏻 |
Agreed! | | | |
| Leaders in the squad on 14:57 - Sep 2 with 175 views | catch74 |
| Leaders in the squad on 13:05 - Sep 2 by textbackup |
How do you know Chaplin said that?
Not everything to be a leader is about aggression. |
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| Leaders in the squad on 15:05 - Sep 2 with 157 views | Everydayblue |
| Leaders in the squad on 12:46 - Sep 2 by darkhorse28 |
They really don’t have those qualities.., Leif leads by example, he doesn’t take you around the back, give you a straightener and MAKE you run harder and want it more (if that’s what you need).
The leadership point is true, it’s a vacuum .., I’m sure one or two can and will step forward.., but it’s an entire culture Morsy, Massimo, Burgess and Chaplin built.
You run.., you work.., you want it more than your opponent.
Chaplins first words at Portsmouth.
Let’s get to work.
That says it all.
We have a culture which let’s be honest, isn’t that. Time will tell. |
Let's not forget, that the leadership shown by the old leadership group. Wasn't there overnight...
Morsey, Burgess and Chaplin came here under Cook. In not dissimilar circumstances as today's, given the squad overhaul at the time. They were here 18mnths before any real leadership and organisation shone through.
Took a few low points, a bit of time and some organising by McKenna, when he came here, to get that right..
He'll do the same with this group....
Probably starting right now, since the dreaded window is now closed.
I honestly expect to see a different animal, in terms of mentality, when we next take the pitch. | | | |
| Leaders in the squad on 15:36 - Sep 2 with 96 views | Ryorry |
| Leaders in the squad on 15:05 - Sep 2 by Everydayblue |
Let's not forget, that the leadership shown by the old leadership group. Wasn't there overnight...
Morsey, Burgess and Chaplin came here under Cook. In not dissimilar circumstances as today's, given the squad overhaul at the time. They were here 18mnths before any real leadership and organisation shone through.
Took a few low points, a bit of time and some organising by McKenna, when he came here, to get that right..
He'll do the same with this group....
Probably starting right now, since the dreaded window is now closed.
I honestly expect to see a different animal, in terms of mentality, when we next take the pitch. |
Punch?
I’ll get me coat … | |
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| Leaders in the squad on 15:52 - Sep 2 with 31 views | Everydayblue |
| Leaders in the squad on 15:36 - Sep 2 by Ryorry |
Punch?
I’ll get me coat … |
No, not all....
Hang your coat back up.... I was just thinking out aloud. | | | |
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