| How did Brighton / Brentford / Bournemouth / Fulham adjust their squads? 11:41 - Sep 2 with 1450 views | DBaldy |
If we're looking to follow a similar model to these teams, how did they manage their squads following their promotion / relegation / promotion / stabilisation seasons?
Did they have a number of fan favourites who were slowly managed out to be replaced by better / more expensive players?
I've only really paid attention to these teams over the last 12-18 months, and the turnover that Bournemouth have seen this off-season is surprising (to me anyway), but does anyone know if these teams went through a similar process as to what we appear to be doing now? |  | | |  |
| How did Brighton / Brentford / Bournemouth / Fulham adjust their squads? on 12:46 - Sep 2 with 1296 views | BloomBlue |
I can only answer re Brentford, but last season they regularly had 4 or 5 players in their starting 11 who also played for them in the championship in 2021. So I guess their turnover has been a lot less. However they missed out on promotion for a few seasons, and I guess that gave them more time to adjust the squad in prep for the PL, whereas we came straight up after 1 season in the champ. |  | | |
| How did Brighton / Brentford / Bournemouth / Fulham adjust their squads? on 12:50 - Sep 2 with 1268 views | TIB |
Could be wrong, but wonder if they utilised a wider (European) scouting network prior to arriving in Prem? |  |
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| How did Brighton / Brentford / Bournemouth / Fulham adjust their squads? on 13:09 - Sep 2 with 1156 views | darkhorse28 |
Have you watched Truffet play?
Bournemouth sold players to Liverpool, PSG and Real Madrid
Replaced them with players costing £12 million each .., and they’re absolute quality! …, already worth three times their fee after a couple of games.
When you think, we paid more than that for our EFL defenders, and Mcateer and many many others, Ogbenne too.
That’s how they do it.
Great talent ID.
Ours is woeful by comparison, and pretty poor by most measures.
If we want to be at that level, we need to at least be as good as Brighton and Bournemouth.
Ashton and McKenna are maybe three levels below that, at least.
We did what we did under Evans, built a club around one or two individuals, and that’s not how any of the elite clubs operate…, it’s about their structure their vision their strategy.
We have none of that, a talented coach, who is well short in many metrics, and no mitigation around him, because Ashton didn’t see the failure and flaws, he had zero awareness of what elite looks like, none. | | | |
| How did Brighton / Brentford / Bournemouth / Fulham adjust their squads? on 13:16 - Sep 2 with 1135 views | CastroSito |
| How did Brighton / Brentford / Bournemouth / Fulham adjust their squads? on 13:09 - Sep 2 by darkhorse28 |
Have you watched Truffet play?
Bournemouth sold players to Liverpool, PSG and Real Madrid
Replaced them with players costing £12 million each .., and they’re absolute quality! …, already worth three times their fee after a couple of games.
When you think, we paid more than that for our EFL defenders, and Mcateer and many many others, Ogbenne too.
That’s how they do it.
Great talent ID.
Ours is woeful by comparison, and pretty poor by most measures.
If we want to be at that level, we need to at least be as good as Brighton and Bournemouth.
Ashton and McKenna are maybe three levels below that, at least.
We did what we did under Evans, built a club around one or two individuals, and that’s not how any of the elite clubs operate…, it’s about their structure their vision their strategy.
We have none of that, a talented coach, who is well short in many metrics, and no mitigation around him, because Ashton didn’t see the failure and flaws, he had zero awareness of what elite looks like, none. |
Saying their signings are now worth three times what they paid for them after three games is just nonsense.
Everyone's raves about the hits with these clubs, but completely ignores the misses. Their recruitment is good, but not perfect. For every good signing, there's one whos shipped off without any fanfare. | | | |
| How did Brighton / Brentford / Bournemouth / Fulham adjust their squads? on 18:20 - Sep 2 with 838 views | skinnybob72 |
More recently I'm sure Forest only had one player left from their Championship squad after just 2 or 3 seasons in the PL. | | | |
| How did Brighton / Brentford / Bournemouth / Fulham adjust their squads? on 18:27 - Sep 2 with 808 views | Bobbychase |
First, they sacked their most successful manager for 20 years, and the CEO who appointed him. It all blossomed from there. |  |
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| How did Brighton / Brentford / Bournemouth / Fulham adjust their squads? on 18:35 - Sep 2 with 780 views | Hugoagogo_Reborn |
The difference with all of those teams is that they have spent far more years in the Premier League than we have, recently.
I agree we want to emulate them, but I don't think we can, at this point.in time.
We are doing our best, though. |  |
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| How did Brighton / Brentford / Bournemouth / Fulham adjust their squads? on 18:42 - Sep 2 with 766 views | MattinLondon |
| How did Brighton / Brentford / Bournemouth / Fulham adjust their squads? on 13:09 - Sep 2 by darkhorse28 |
Have you watched Truffet play?
Bournemouth sold players to Liverpool, PSG and Real Madrid
Replaced them with players costing £12 million each .., and they’re absolute quality! …, already worth three times their fee after a couple of games.
When you think, we paid more than that for our EFL defenders, and Mcateer and many many others, Ogbenne too.
That’s how they do it.
Great talent ID.
Ours is woeful by comparison, and pretty poor by most measures.
If we want to be at that level, we need to at least be as good as Brighton and Bournemouth.
Ashton and McKenna are maybe three levels below that, at least.
We did what we did under Evans, built a club around one or two individuals, and that’s not how any of the elite clubs operate…, it’s about their structure their vision their strategy.
We have none of that, a talented coach, who is well short in many metrics, and no mitigation around him, because Ashton didn’t see the failure and flaws, he had zero awareness of what elite looks like, none. |
What a load of bollox.
Just a few seasons ago we had Marcus Evans in charge who run the club into the ground with the infrastructure of the club was twenty years behind the times. It takes more than a couple of seasons to have a good scouting system in place - things take time.
KM is a talented coach but he is young and will make mistakes - hopefully he’ll learn from such mistakes and grows along with the club. |  | | |
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| How did Brighton / Brentford / Bournemouth / Fulham adjust their squads? on 19:05 - Sep 2 with 673 views | Vic |
| How did Brighton / Brentford / Bournemouth / Fulham adjust their squads? on 12:46 - Sep 2 by BloomBlue |
I can only answer re Brentford, but last season they regularly had 4 or 5 players in their starting 11 who also played for them in the championship in 2021. So I guess their turnover has been a lot less. However they missed out on promotion for a few seasons, and I guess that gave them more time to adjust the squad in prep for the PL, whereas we came straight up after 1 season in the champ. |
That’s a significant fact that we sometimes forget. |  |
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| How did Brighton / Brentford / Bournemouth / Fulham adjust their squads? on 19:17 - Sep 2 with 634 views | vapour_trail |
| How did Brighton / Brentford / Bournemouth / Fulham adjust their squads? on 13:16 - Sep 2 by CastroSito |
Saying their signings are now worth three times what they paid for them after three games is just nonsense.
Everyone's raves about the hits with these clubs, but completely ignores the misses. Their recruitment is good, but not perfect. For every good signing, there's one whos shipped off without any fanfare. |
There are varying shades of success.
Brighton have an amazing hit rate. Even the ones that don’t get sold to Chelsea for four times the price they bought them, they successfully farm out around Europe for good money.
And Truffert i’d be willing to bet is already valued at far more than Bournemouth paid. It didn’t take long at all for kerkez and huijsen to be linked with moves at huge profit.
Wolves signed strand larsen for 23m in July and turned down a 55m offer from Newcastle six weeks later.
As usual, in amongst the ranting, there is some truth to what dark horse is saying. |  |
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| How did Brighton / Brentford / Bournemouth / Fulham adjust their squads? on 23:11 - Sep 2 with 400 views | Everydayblue |
Be interesting to know the Wrexham squad turnover, in last few seasons.
3 promotions on the spin, from non league to Championship. And giving it a go in this window, too. | | | |
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