| Banksy 20:33 - Sep 10 with 5834 views | wrightsrightglove |
Has this been discussed? Really powerful bit of artwork which they’ve now tried to remove but it’s only made it even more powerful in a classic Banksy way. Makes me wonder whether he’s used some form of paint / technique where he knew they’d try and remove it and he knew exactly how it would look after they tried to do so? Could prove to become more famous than the shredder incident |  | | |  |
| Banksy on 11:56 - Sep 12 with 568 views | The_Flashing_Smile |
| Banksy on 09:43 - Sep 12 by DJR |
Thanks for the compliment.
I suppose I don't take anything at face value and always like to dig deeper but don't ask me anything about science.
I came across Blek le Rat a few years ago when investigating Banksy, and digging deeper today I came across this on Banksy's Wikipedia page.
Blek le Rat said in an interview for the documentary Graffiti Wars that some of Banksy's more derivative work makes him "angry", saying that "It's difficult to find a technique and style in art so when you have a style and you see someone else is taking it and reproducing it, you don't like that." [Post edited 12 Sep 9:44]
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Bit of a daft comment IMO. All art, including music, is influenced by those who went before. No-one is completely original. |  |
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| Banksy on 12:23 - Sep 12 with 492 views | DJR |
| Banksy on 11:56 - Sep 12 by The_Flashing_Smile |
Bit of a daft comment IMO. All art, including music, is influenced by those who went before. No-one is completely original. |
Influence is one thing but it could be argued that there is an element of plagiarism involved in terms of medium, style, technique and subject matter (eg. rats), which if you are the artist you might well feel miffed about. [Post edited 12 Sep 12:25]
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| Banksy on 12:47 - Sep 12 with 432 views | The_Flashing_Smile |
| Banksy on 12:23 - Sep 12 by DJR |
Influence is one thing but it could be argued that there is an element of plagiarism involved in terms of medium, style, technique and subject matter (eg. rats), which if you are the artist you might well feel miffed about. [Post edited 12 Sep 12:25]
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I don't think anyone has the monopoly on medium, style, technique... or rats!
Plagiarism would be a direct copy. Having a similar style is just that. | |
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| Banksy on 12:54 - Sep 12 with 419 views | J2BLUE |
| Banksy on 15:09 - Sep 11 by lowhouseblue |
lots and lots of people. from politics, for example starmer, and most of the government along with every previous labour leader except one. it's only the shouty, online left that i find i have less and less patience for. plus banksy would be fine if he did the occasional cartoon in the guardian - as long as you're not expecting to be in any way surprised by it - but instead he's turned reaffirmingly unchallenging pap into a multi-million pound business. |
Trite sixth-form politics
Shouty online left
What a thread. |  |
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| Banksy on 13:36 - Sep 12 with 344 views | DJR |
| Banksy on 12:54 - Sep 12 by J2BLUE |
Trite sixth-form politics
Shouty online left
What a thread. |
I refer to the answer I gave to lowhouse on this thread yesterday at 17.02. | | | |
| Banksy on 13:58 - Sep 12 with 278 views | J2BLUE |
| Banksy on 13:36 - Sep 12 by DJR |
I refer to the answer I gave to lowhouse on this thread yesterday at 17.02. |
True but it's not like the people who share most of your views on here post without being insulting and with a sense of moral superiority is it?
I highlighted two phrases which amused me because they totally nail it, IMO. | |
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| Banksy on 14:04 - Sep 12 with 251 views | Blueschev |
| Banksy on 13:58 - Sep 12 by J2BLUE |
True but it's not like the people who share most of your views on here post without being insulting and with a sense of moral superiority is it?
I highlighted two phrases which amused me because they totally nail it, IMO. |
I've noticed you doing just that a lot on here recently. |  | | |
| Banksy on 14:19 - Sep 12 with 221 views | J2BLUE |
| Banksy on 14:04 - Sep 12 by Blueschev |
I've noticed you doing just that a lot on here recently. |
I'm sure you have... | |
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| Banksy on 15:16 - Sep 12 with 140 views | DJR |
| Banksy on 13:58 - Sep 12 by J2BLUE |
True but it's not like the people who share most of your views on here post without being insulting and with a sense of moral superiority is it?
I highlighted two phrases which amused me because they totally nail it, IMO. |
That's a rather sweeping generalisation about posters on here who may not share your views.
And I can't work out if you are damning me with faint praise, although to lump us all together is rather insulting because my impression is that we are not a homogenous group.
For my own part, I've never really understood the moral superiority trope when it comes to the left.
My view is that in very simplistic terms there are two different moral approaches when it comes to those on the right and those on the left. The former put their faith more in the individual (or family) than the state, and the opposite is true of those on the left. Each is a perfectly valid approach, and you wouldn't expect someone like Mrs Thatcher to think that her approach was in any way morally inferior.
As regards the shouty online left, I am not on social media but the impression I get these days is that the online right massively outshouts the left and is no less insulting. And the sixth-form politics jibe could be said to be straying into moral superiority territory.
Anyway, I'm off to the game so won't be able to carry on this conversation but good luck with your use of mounjaro. [Post edited 12 Sep 15:29]
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| Banksy on 15:36 - Sep 12 with 91 views | The_Flashing_Smile |
| Banksy on 15:16 - Sep 12 by DJR |
That's a rather sweeping generalisation about posters on here who may not share your views.
And I can't work out if you are damning me with faint praise, although to lump us all together is rather insulting because my impression is that we are not a homogenous group.
For my own part, I've never really understood the moral superiority trope when it comes to the left.
My view is that in very simplistic terms there are two different moral approaches when it comes to those on the right and those on the left. The former put their faith more in the individual (or family) than the state, and the opposite is true of those on the left. Each is a perfectly valid approach, and you wouldn't expect someone like Mrs Thatcher to think that her approach was in any way morally inferior.
As regards the shouty online left, I am not on social media but the impression I get these days is that the online right massively outshouts the left and is no less insulting. And the sixth-form politics jibe could be said to be straying into moral superiority territory.
Anyway, I'm off to the game so won't be able to carry on this conversation but good luck with your use of mounjaro. [Post edited 12 Sep 15:29]
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Interesting theory on the left and the right. I'm left but I don't particularly put any faith in the state. I tend to think of right = selfish, I'm alright Jack, look after yourself and your family first (which is an understandable direction, it makes sense) and the left is more caring of others/wants some kind of utopia where we're all equal (however pie in the sky that dream may be).
I don't use the term selfish as a criticism - some might say it's absolutely right to look after yourself and your family first (and there are probably many instances when I would). The problems happen when that 'looking after the self' goes too far and strays into demonising and wanting to 'defeat' other groups in order to protect the self.
I may well be talking a lot of old nonsense here. | |
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| Banksy on 15:40 - Sep 12 with 71 views | J2BLUE |
| Banksy on 15:16 - Sep 12 by DJR |
That's a rather sweeping generalisation about posters on here who may not share your views.
And I can't work out if you are damning me with faint praise, although to lump us all together is rather insulting because my impression is that we are not a homogenous group.
For my own part, I've never really understood the moral superiority trope when it comes to the left.
My view is that in very simplistic terms there are two different moral approaches when it comes to those on the right and those on the left. The former put their faith more in the individual (or family) than the state, and the opposite is true of those on the left. Each is a perfectly valid approach, and you wouldn't expect someone like Mrs Thatcher to think that her approach was in any way morally inferior.
As regards the shouty online left, I am not on social media but the impression I get these days is that the online right massively outshouts the left and is no less insulting. And the sixth-form politics jibe could be said to be straying into moral superiority territory.
Anyway, I'm off to the game so won't be able to carry on this conversation but good luck with your use of mounjaro. [Post edited 12 Sep 15:29]
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Thank you.
Perhaps worded badly but there are two loose groups on here of posters who tend to agree fairly broadly on their outlook. I would put you in the leftie camp albeit not on the extreme end. | |
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