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Keno's solution to the UK's problems 08:50 - Sep 18 with 738 viewsKeno

for the next 10 years scrap party politics and create a coalition, similar to during the wars years with the specific aims of sorting out issues with State Pension, NHS, Education, Immigration, Transport, policing and getting the third series of Tripods made

These won't be done all the time politics and in particular the desire to win an election in 5 years or less is looming

The "Government' could be formed by policitans, industry experts and leading lights with the country effectively being run by the civil service without the 'help' of ministers who have by and large proved themselves incapable or inept or both but under the guidance of people who know what they are doing.

Thats would be the UK sorted!!

Discuss ....





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Keno's solution to the UK's problems on 08:53 - Sep 18 with 722 viewsBrandonsBlues

Has not done Germany much harm, having more centralist politics with input from minor parties to stop extreme right and left wing swings
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Keno's solution to the UK's problems on 09:42 - Sep 18 with 579 viewsGuthrum

There is precedent for a peacetime coalition formed to deal with an economic crisis.

In 1931, after the fall of his minority Labour administration, Ramsay MacDonald formed a National Government* to deal with the effects of the Great Depression. It won a landslide election that year and was in power (with various changes) until 1937.



* Backed by the Conservatives, along with factions of the Liberals and Labour, plus some independent MPs. MacDonald was formally expelled by the Labour Party for going down this route.

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Keno's solution to the UK's problems on 09:48 - Sep 18 with 545 viewsJ2BLUE

Or change to PR. Everyone's vote counts. MPs have to work together rather than jeering each other like five year olds.

Oh and PMQ questions should have to be approved by the speaker in advance. No more some backbencher asking if the PM agrees with him that that the opposition all smell of wee.

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Keno's solution to the UK's problems on 11:19 - Sep 18 with 433 viewsOldFart71

Unless you can get all of those whether in a coalition or a single party to be as one it will make little difference as we have seen with both Tories and Labour.
Maybe it would be of use if any Government in power did what was right for the Country rather than having agendas of their own.
It has been said that because of the relatively short time a government is in power, unless re-elected that their policies are always based on short termism. For instance Labour wants more government based people and the Tories go for private firms. Most likely due to their individual paymasters.
Also many ministers seem more interested in what they can get out of it themselves than what they are paid for and that is to run the country.
Politics need to change as many people are fed up with being spoon fed lies and told do as I say and not as I do. Whilst billions are wasted and we the people have to pick up the tab.
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Keno's solution to the UK's problems on 11:48 - Sep 18 with 370 viewsWeWereZombies

Keno's solution to the UK's problems on 09:42 - Sep 18 by Guthrum

There is precedent for a peacetime coalition formed to deal with an economic crisis.

In 1931, after the fall of his minority Labour administration, Ramsay MacDonald formed a National Government* to deal with the effects of the Great Depression. It won a landslide election that year and was in power (with various changes) until 1937.



* Backed by the Conservatives, along with factions of the Liberals and Labour, plus some independent MPs. MacDonald was formally expelled by the Labour Party for going down this route.


Although formally expelled it could be viewed that MacDonald had already abandoned the Labour Party when it happened, the reasons are complex:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ramsay_MacDonald#Reputation

The Liberal Party playing politics (in the worst sense of the phrase) over things like the Zinoviev letter didn't help either, and from a national governing perspective poisoned relations with Soviet Russia for good (although maybe no person or nation could put a brake on Stalin by that time.)

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Keno's solution to the UK's problems on 12:18 - Sep 18 with 296 viewsChurchman

End party politics and declare you Caesar. You get a free toga, a few leaves for the bonce and unlimited power to sort out the mess. You’d get my vote (or should it be tribute?)

I actually have no problem with your first a paragraph, as it goes.

Care with the Civil Service though. It is there to implement and challenge, not create policy. That’s for the HoC mugs to do.

Interesting that the wartime coalition worked pretty well and is actually a tribute to the strength of the war cabinet and their single minded aim to defeat the enemy. Not enough credit is given to the likes of Attlee in my view for the work they did.

Powerful people like Beaverbrook played their part which I am guessing is where your comment re industrialists and leading lights come from.
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Keno's solution to the UK's problems on 12:34 - Sep 18 with 258 viewsMattinLondon

My hairbrain idea would be for all of the CEOs of the various NHS Trusts to get together and be responsible for the NHS budget with no political pressure or influence from MPs. As well as this, they’ll be responsible for health policy and priorities in England. Obviously those CEOs will be accountable to their own doctors and nurses etc.

I would try and do the same with other departments as I’m not sure that a lot of MPs and Ministers are best for long termism.

Probably not feasible at all.
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Keno's solution to the UK's problems on 12:41 - Sep 18 with 218 viewsLuciBlue

If it gets a third series of Tripods made, it's worth a gamble.

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Keno's solution to the UK's problems on 12:54 - Sep 18 with 185 viewsBlueForYou

I've been thinking for a while now, that party politics is dead in the UK.So I kind of agree with you Keno. I'd like to see something more along the lines of the Swiss system. People vote regularly on issues which are put to their parliament/federal council to work on. Believe the council is cross party & elected by the MP's. It's a very democratic system & I think if we could find a British version of it, this would serve us way better than currently, in that hopefully it would get parliament working together for the National good.
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Keno's solution to the UK's problems on 13:52 - Sep 18 with 45 viewsthebooks

Technocracies don’t work. The idea that some sort of neutral path exists that can be divined by a set of “leading lights” is basically what we’ve had for the last 40-50 years anyway. Or is all this despite industry leaders and “sensible” politicians.

Who gets to choose which politicians, industry leaders etc? It’s a centrist fantasy.
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Keno's solution to the UK's problems on 13:57 - Sep 18 with 32 viewsblueasfook

Keno's solution to the UK's problems on 09:48 - Sep 18 by J2BLUE

Or change to PR. Everyone's vote counts. MPs have to work together rather than jeering each other like five year olds.

Oh and PMQ questions should have to be approved by the speaker in advance. No more some backbencher asking if the PM agrees with him that that the opposition all smell of wee.


Our electoral system is long overdue an overhaul and PR is definitely the way to go.

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