| Politics and the media currently 08:32 - Sep 19 with 2717 views | itfcjoe |
Some major things that have come out of state visit, and the AI investment is something that gives the UK massive growth potential even if it sadly means the only way to do so is just trying to get into America's slipstream over it.
But real, massive success stories, that will affect the country for the next dozen years in a good way; but all we hear about is 'free speech', Farage, flags etc |  |
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| Politics and the media currently on 12:31 - Sep 19 with 682 views | J2BLUE |
| Politics and the media currently on 12:01 - Sep 19 by itfcjoe |
I think success story, in that AI is coming to replace our jobs whether we like it or not, so may as well try and have some growth/jobs as part of it.
If we don't get a handle on what AI will do, and is already doing to the world, and what a workforce plan etc looks like in that world we are going to be buggared either way |
100% this. AI and robotics are the future. Plan for it now or get left behind. |  |
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| Politics and the media currently on 12:32 - Sep 19 with 684 views | positivity |
| Politics and the media currently on 12:25 - Sep 19 by jasondozzell |
We're getting all those people precisely because of the Starmer project. They're not protecting us from the far right, they've legitimised them.
Flags, crackdowns and a vague idea that growth would just happen is all they ever had and it means Farage will be PM.
They have also materially supported a genocide, allowed terrible behaviour within the party, and punished the vulnerable.
To my mind, they are worst because of what they will deliver. |
nope. they all existed before, but were rocket-fuelled by brexit, mainly thanks to a limp labour leader in charge at the time.
by your reckoning, corbyn is the very worst, but imho he's nowhere near as bad as the aforementioned faragistas [Post edited 19 Sep 12:36]
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| Politics and the media currently on 12:36 - Sep 19 with 654 views | chicoazul |
| Politics and the media currently on 12:19 - Sep 19 by jasondozzell |
Can't agree with that at all I'm afraid. Craven careerists who entered government without a plan and have no principles. They are going to deliver Farage as a r result and have destroyed the Labour party. |
Didn’t Labour win an enormous landslide a year ago or did I imagine that |  |
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| Politics and the media currently on 12:40 - Sep 19 with 618 views | NthQldITFC |
| Politics and the media currently on 09:38 - Sep 19 by SuperKieranMcKenna |
My only scepticism around that is that we have some of the highest energy costs in Europe. And without a change to wholesale pricing system, no amount of green energy is going to change that. There’s a a lot of info around the investment in the Gov press realise, but little around what we’ve offered in return (I.e are there subsidies, light touch regs, or tax breaks). Maybe I’m being cynical, and it is definitely a win, I just thought it was a strange deal from the investors perspective given the cost of energy (unless it’s due to lower US tariffs in the UK than EU). |
Any idea how close pocket nuclear reactors are? With the Yanks on board, maybe closer than we think. Could be a game changer for AI and CC? |  |
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| Politics and the media currently on 12:43 - Sep 19 with 594 views | J2BLUE |
| Politics and the media currently on 09:38 - Sep 19 by SuperKieranMcKenna |
My only scepticism around that is that we have some of the highest energy costs in Europe. And without a change to wholesale pricing system, no amount of green energy is going to change that. There’s a a lot of info around the investment in the Gov press realise, but little around what we’ve offered in return (I.e are there subsidies, light touch regs, or tax breaks). Maybe I’m being cynical, and it is definitely a win, I just thought it was a strange deal from the investors perspective given the cost of energy (unless it’s due to lower US tariffs in the UK than EU). |
We should stick 1000 wind turbines just off the coast of his golf course. | |
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| Politics and the media currently on 12:53 - Sep 19 with 551 views | ElderGrizzly |
| Politics and the media currently on 08:36 - Sep 19 by BloomBlue |
What about all the enery to drive the AI infrastructure, will Sizewell C be online in time? |
Ireland is currently having regular blackouts and energy 'diverted' from schools and hospitals to allow enough power for the massive AI data centres there.
Was at a talk this morning from someone on the 'ethical' side of AI and she was mentioning this |  | | |
| Politics and the media currently on 12:58 - Sep 19 with 512 views | giant_stow |
| Politics and the media currently on 12:53 - Sep 19 by ElderGrizzly |
Ireland is currently having regular blackouts and energy 'diverted' from schools and hospitals to allow enough power for the massive AI data centres there.
Was at a talk this morning from someone on the 'ethical' side of AI and she was mentioning this |
I've heard about these blackouts, but not the cause - is it common knowledge over there (and my buddy is ignorant)? |  |
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| Politics and the media currently on 13:05 - Sep 19 with 466 views | ElderGrizzly |
| Politics and the media currently on 12:58 - Sep 19 by giant_stow |
I've heard about these blackouts, but not the cause - is it common knowledge over there (and my buddy is ignorant)? |
From what she was saying the companies who own these AI centres have done a good job of deflecting the blame.
But she says it is in no doubt and has been happening for the last 18 months, but only getting worse.
She was actually a user of their services, so no bias against them, but was saying it is being overlooked by Governments in a dash to attract investment from these big companies. She implied it was Amazon and Google behind this particular issue.
She went on to say Ireland the issue is power, but in Louisiana for example, the issue is water for cooling and it is (again) being diverted from local communities to prioritise these AI centres [Post edited 19 Sep 13:06]
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| Politics and the media currently on 13:07 - Sep 19 with 452 views | leitrimblue |
| Politics and the media currently on 12:58 - Sep 19 by giant_stow |
I've heard about these blackouts, but not the cause - is it common knowledge over there (and my buddy is ignorant)? |
Never heard of it.
Though we do have days without electricity in Leitrim every time there's a fair sized storm.
Currently at least 2 or 3 times a year. |  | | |
| Politics and the media currently on 13:07 - Sep 19 with 449 views | giant_stow |
| Politics and the media currently on 13:05 - Sep 19 by ElderGrizzly |
From what she was saying the companies who own these AI centres have done a good job of deflecting the blame.
But she says it is in no doubt and has been happening for the last 18 months, but only getting worse.
She was actually a user of their services, so no bias against them, but was saying it is being overlooked by Governments in a dash to attract investment from these big companies. She implied it was Amazon and Google behind this particular issue.
She went on to say Ireland the issue is power, but in Louisiana for example, the issue is water for cooling and it is (again) being diverted from local communities to prioritise these AI centres [Post edited 19 Sep 13:06]
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Ta - very interesting. | |
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| Politics and the media currently on 13:12 - Sep 19 with 403 views | ElderGrizzly |
| Politics and the media currently on 13:07 - Sep 19 by giant_stow |
Ta - very interesting. |
Good example of power consumption was one 30 second AI created video consumes around the same energy as streaming every episode of Friends (236 episodes) around 5,000 times. | | | |
| Politics and the media currently on 13:24 - Sep 19 with 342 views | giant_stow |
| Politics and the media currently on 13:12 - Sep 19 by ElderGrizzly |
Good example of power consumption was one 30 second AI created video consumes around the same energy as streaming every episode of Friends (236 episodes) around 5,000 times. |
My apologies to the people of ireland for the 2 AI images I created yesterday but then didn't use.
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| Politics and the media currently on 13:44 - Sep 19 with 286 views | Steve_M |
| Politics and the media currently on 13:24 - Sep 19 by giant_stow |
My apologies to the people of ireland for the 2 AI images I created yesterday but then didn't use.
(bonkers stat) [Post edited 19 Sep 13:24]
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Did you get it to show Norwich lifting a trophy? Sounds like a hallucination to far even for AI. |  |
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| Politics and the media currently on 13:59 - Sep 19 with 226 views | NthQldITFC |
| Politics and the media currently on 13:24 - Sep 19 by giant_stow |
My apologies to the people of ireland for the 2 AI images I created yesterday but then didn't use.
(bonkers stat) [Post edited 19 Sep 13:24]
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Lichess has just had an update and the text on the button now reads 'Play against AI' rather than 'Play against the computer', and I've been feeling really guilty every time I play (not that it's doing anything different, obviously, it just feels dirty.) | |
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| Politics and the media currently on 14:01 - Sep 19 with 211 views | soupytwist |
| Politics and the media currently on 13:55 - Sep 19 by NthQldITFC |
You can use the older, less power-hungry engines if you don't have a reason to be too bothered about the finger count.  |
Helpful if you're trying to create images of Norfolk residents. |  | | |
| Politics and the media currently on 14:02 - Sep 19 with 207 views | giant_stow |
| Politics and the media currently on 13:44 - Sep 19 by Steve_M |
Did you get it to show Norwich lifting a trophy? Sounds like a hallucination to far even for AI. |
you're a brute Steven... a quiet understated brute, but a brute nonetheless. I actually had to create an image to represent "The Church, the family, the state and riches" - well beyond my creative capability, but AI spat out a very white and male image, so i turned to other options. so neah!!!! | |
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| Politics and the media currently on 16:03 - Sep 19 with 10 views | bsw72 |
| Politics and the media currently on 12:25 - Sep 19 by jasondozzell |
We're getting all those people precisely because of the Starmer project. They're not protecting us from the far right, they've legitimised them.
Flags, crackdowns and a vague idea that growth would just happen is all they ever had and it means Farage will be PM.
They have also materially supported a genocide, allowed terrible behaviour within the party, and punished the vulnerable.
To my mind, they are worst because of what they will deliver. |
That's a very simplified view of a far more complex social and political situation which has developed over the last couple of decades and it is no coincidence that it aligns with the growth in social media.
The rise of the far right is a multi‑causal problem rooted in long‑term social, policitcal and structural shifts. Don't get me wrong, I kind of get why blaming this mythical "Starmer Project" feels true, spotting dodgy bedfellows and headline-grabbing figures makes you want to blame whatever is most visible, but it’s too neat to pin it all on one leadership.
The rise of those voices comes from lots of things: the Brexit realignment, long-term economic insecurity, a general mistrust of elites and social media that turbocharges grievance. Those forces were already in motion and run across the whole political spectrum. Labour’s move to be more professional and electable is an attempted response to that landscape, not the origin of it.
If Labour’s failing, call it out with specifics; which policies, which behaviours, rather than slapping the vague “Starmer project” label on everything. Focusing on the real root causes and concrete fixes will get you further than assigning all the blame to one supposed plan. |  | | |
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