| EFL statement has me a bit concerned 18:58 - Sep 20 with 4741 views | Joey_Joe_Joe_Junior |
Replay doesn’t seem to be cut and dry, excuse the pun. |  |
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| EFL statement has me a bit concerned on 19:38 - Sep 20 with 1102 views | Ryorry |
| EFL statement has me a bit concerned on 19:31 - Sep 20 by surreyblue |
I wonder if we will informally agree to let them score at the start of the game as a way to make it "fair" |
That sounds reasonable, but on the other hand if the pitch had been up to the normal playable standard required under EFL regs, there’s an obvious question as to whether the scoreline would have been what it was.
What would be ‘fair’ would be us playing with only 10 men from the 51st minute (or whatever time it was when Greaves got sent off), as that wasn’t down to the weather; but doubt the EFL’s capable of that kind of subtlety! |  |
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| EFL statement has me a bit concerned on 19:38 - Sep 20 with 1101 views | Marshalls_Mullet |
Don't worry about it. |  |
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| EFL statement has me a bit concerned on 19:39 - Sep 20 with 1086 views | Jeff_winger |
| EFL statement has me a bit concerned on 19:20 - Sep 20 by Joey_Joe_Joe_Junior |
Ok so it’s clear not a “rule” then, otherwise that would all be a waste of time. |
There is no rule, that it has to be replayed.
Has to go to league to decide way forward.
Normally results in a replay, but doesn't have to, if blackburn cry enough and make a decent argument they could let it stand.
More likely we replay or at least replay remaining minutes |  | | |
| EFL statement has me a bit concerned on 20:16 - Sep 20 with 910 views | Chris_ITFC |
| EFL statement has me a bit concerned on 19:39 - Sep 20 by Jeff_winger |
There is no rule, that it has to be replayed.
Has to go to league to decide way forward.
Normally results in a replay, but doesn't have to, if blackburn cry enough and make a decent argument they could let it stand.
More likely we replay or at least replay remaining minutes |
In no circumstance will they award Blackburn the win.
Let’s not waste time debating that. |  |
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| EFL statement has me a bit concerned on 20:38 - Sep 20 with 785 views | football |
| EFL statement has me a bit concerned on 19:31 - Sep 20 by surreyblue |
I wonder if we will informally agree to let them score at the start of the game as a way to make it "fair" |
Why on earth would we do that??? Thats just a silly thing to say or think will happen |  | | |
| EFL statement has me a bit concerned on 20:50 - Sep 20 with 682 views | pointofblue |
| EFL statement has me a bit concerned on 19:39 - Sep 20 by Jeff_winger |
There is no rule, that it has to be replayed.
Has to go to league to decide way forward.
Normally results in a replay, but doesn't have to, if blackburn cry enough and make a decent argument they could let it stand.
More likely we replay or at least replay remaining minutes |
Maybe they can look at having a pitch with sufficient drainage. The matches at Turf Moor and Old Trafford both survived.
I could be being unfair; perhaps Blackburn got more rain than both. But it seems unlikely. | |
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| EFL statement has me a bit concerned on 22:20 - Sep 20 with 452 views | Nutkins_Return |
| EFL statement has me a bit concerned on 19:23 - Sep 20 by Ryorry |
Why are you missing my obvious point that the gross unfairness of being denied 11 minutes of play + at least another 5 of injury time in which to equalise if not win, would serve to unite and galvanise our players? |
Being. Completely honest I can't even see a 0.1% positive impact in that scenario. Really and honestly I don't think it does anything it galvonise the team and if anything it would be a sickener and a negative thing | |
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| EFL statement has me a bit concerned on 22:44 - Sep 20 with 370 views | ClareBlue |
The discretion and having a panel look at it is to ensure it wasn't abandoned due to something either club did. For example, getting enough players sent off, refusing to play on without official abandoned, not coming out after half time, not fielding a team without agreement for a postponed game. The default for that is a 3.0 loss. The weather is not one that precludes replay. It would be a complete break from the norm to not replay this match. Nobody knows what would have happened. Plenty of goals are scored in the last 15 minutes of a football match, so it is just speculation as to what would have happened. The chance of not being replayed are miniscule. | | | |
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| EFL statement has me a bit concerned on 22:46 - Sep 20 with 365 views | HighgateBlue |
Bigger picture - the performance of our team and manager also has me more than a bit concerned.
If we get a replay, we will surely have used up all of our luck for the season. |  | | |
| EFL statement has me a bit concerned on 22:46 - Sep 20 with 362 views | Ryorry |
| EFL statement has me a bit concerned on 22:20 - Sep 20 by Nutkins_Return |
Being. Completely honest I can't even see a 0.1% positive impact in that scenario. Really and honestly I don't think it does anything it galvonise the team and if anything it would be a sickener and a negative thing |
Amazed you don't think an injustice can fire teams' spirit in a 'backs to the wall' 'nobody loves us, we don't care' kind of way, but there ya go. | |
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| EFL statement has me a bit concerned on 22:49 - Sep 20 with 344 views | TheBoyBlue |
| EFL statement has me a bit concerned on 22:46 - Sep 20 by HighgateBlue |
Bigger picture - the performance of our team and manager also has me more than a bit concerned.
If we get a replay, we will surely have used up all of our luck for the season. |
Harsh to judge a performance in those conditions.
And there's no luck involved. It's Blackburn's responsibility to provide a playable pitch and from arguably halftime onwards they failed to do that. | |
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| EFL statement has me a bit concerned on 22:54 - Sep 20 with 323 views | HighgateBlue |
| EFL statement has me a bit concerned on 19:08 - Sep 20 by Illinoisblue |
There’s no discussion to be had. It must be replayed, per the rules. |
Except that's just not what the rules say, do they?
I mean, sure, I'd love a replay, we would massively have got out of jail, but unless you have a different version of the rules from the rest of us, a replay is not mandated by the rules. | | | |
| EFL statement has me a bit concerned on 23:06 - Sep 20 with 283 views | HighgateBlue |
| EFL statement has me a bit concerned on 22:49 - Sep 20 by TheBoyBlue |
Harsh to judge a performance in those conditions.
And there's no luck involved. It's Blackburn's responsibility to provide a playable pitch and from arguably halftime onwards they failed to do that. |
I would love to be wrong, but on the evidence thus far, the Sheff Utd scoreline appears far more of an outlier than today's match. Different weather, same outcome. I think people are underestimating just how pants Sheff Utd are. They've lost all 6 games, and are already 2 points adrift at the bottom having scored 1 and conceded 13.
As soon as you realise that Sheff Utd are woeful, our results suddenly look frightening. There will come a point at which the many and varied excuses will run substantially drier than Blackburn's pitch.
If today's result stands, which of course I hope it doesn't, we're a point a game after 6 games. With the money we've spent, that is so very far from being good enough.
And I am going to judge Greaves, harsh or not. When a professional get paid what he does, I'm not gonna let a bit of rain prevent me from calling him out as a liability, and a downgrade on Burgess. We had more points per game with Burgess than with Greaves last season in the premier league, and so far this season Greaves has been more of a calamity Jane than Muric ever was. When we're underperforming our budget by this much, just trying to stay on the pitch really should be the minimum acceptable requirement.
Derby didn't count, because it wasn't a game of football because they have a style we don't like. Today didn't count because of the micro-climate over our players that for some reason didn't affect Blackburn as badly. The excuses will run out eventually. | | | |
| EFL statement has me a bit concerned on 23:17 - Sep 20 with 226 views | TheBoyBlue |
| EFL statement has me a bit concerned on 23:06 - Sep 20 by HighgateBlue |
I would love to be wrong, but on the evidence thus far, the Sheff Utd scoreline appears far more of an outlier than today's match. Different weather, same outcome. I think people are underestimating just how pants Sheff Utd are. They've lost all 6 games, and are already 2 points adrift at the bottom having scored 1 and conceded 13.
As soon as you realise that Sheff Utd are woeful, our results suddenly look frightening. There will come a point at which the many and varied excuses will run substantially drier than Blackburn's pitch.
If today's result stands, which of course I hope it doesn't, we're a point a game after 6 games. With the money we've spent, that is so very far from being good enough.
And I am going to judge Greaves, harsh or not. When a professional get paid what he does, I'm not gonna let a bit of rain prevent me from calling him out as a liability, and a downgrade on Burgess. We had more points per game with Burgess than with Greaves last season in the premier league, and so far this season Greaves has been more of a calamity Jane than Muric ever was. When we're underperforming our budget by this much, just trying to stay on the pitch really should be the minimum acceptable requirement.
Derby didn't count, because it wasn't a game of football because they have a style we don't like. Today didn't count because of the micro-climate over our players that for some reason didn't affect Blackburn as badly. The excuses will run out eventually. |
Sheffield United were ideal for us, but equally they weren't terrible. And it was another game where we were getting better in line with incremental improvement. A debut for 3 of our newest players who played no part in the previous games of course and indeed two of them didn't get the chance to get on today.
This afternoon was no game to judge our progress or lack of it if you want to look at it that way. From halftime onwards the ball was already playing untrue on the pitch, the conditions weren't acceptable for a modern match.
Our last proper match on a playable pitch was a 5-0 win against a troubled but not dreadful team and we have a chance to build on that next Saturday. | |
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| EFL statement has me a bit concerned on 23:21 - Sep 20 with 213 views | Joey_Joe_Joe_Junior |
| EFL statement has me a bit concerned on 23:17 - Sep 20 by TheBoyBlue |
Sheffield United were ideal for us, but equally they weren't terrible. And it was another game where we were getting better in line with incremental improvement. A debut for 3 of our newest players who played no part in the previous games of course and indeed two of them didn't get the chance to get on today.
This afternoon was no game to judge our progress or lack of it if you want to look at it that way. From halftime onwards the ball was already playing untrue on the pitch, the conditions weren't acceptable for a modern match.
Our last proper match on a playable pitch was a 5-0 win against a troubled but not dreadful team and we have a chance to build on that next Saturday. |
They just lost at home 1-0 Charlton. They’re an absolute state. | |
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| EFL statement has me a bit concerned on 23:24 - Sep 20 with 186 views | TheBoyBlue |
| EFL statement has me a bit concerned on 23:21 - Sep 20 by Joey_Joe_Joe_Junior |
They just lost at home 1-0 Charlton. They’re an absolute state. |
Their main issue seems to be in attack, but they played well up our second and as we know confidence is crucial and theirs was rock bottom and they crumbled. We dealt with them without mercy. Not sure what more we could've done. | |
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| EFL statement has me a bit concerned on 23:27 - Sep 20 with 174 views | Joey_Joe_Joe_Junior |
| EFL statement has me a bit concerned on 23:24 - Sep 20 by TheBoyBlue |
Their main issue seems to be in attack, but they played well up our second and as we know confidence is crucial and theirs was rock bottom and they crumbled. We dealt with them without mercy. Not sure what more we could've done. |
They haven’t scored in 6 weeks. We won handily but until we string wins together it’s doesn’t mean much in terms of turning the corner. | |
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| EFL statement has me a bit concerned on 23:32 - Sep 20 with 143 views | TheBoyBlue |
| EFL statement has me a bit concerned on 23:27 - Sep 20 by Joey_Joe_Joe_Junior |
They haven’t scored in 6 weeks. We won handily but until we string wins together it’s doesn’t mean much in terms of turning the corner. |
How can we judge our ability to string results together when we haven't had a completed game since? | |
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| EFL statement has me a bit concerned on 23:35 - Sep 20 with 129 views | Joey_Joe_Joe_Junior |
| EFL statement has me a bit concerned on 23:32 - Sep 20 by TheBoyBlue |
How can we judge our ability to string results together when we haven't had a completed game since? |
We can’t but today was still a bit of a sample size of us not taking the next step. | |
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| EFL statement has me a bit concerned on 23:47 - Sep 20 with 100 views | TheBoyBlue |
| EFL statement has me a bit concerned on 23:35 - Sep 20 by Joey_Joe_Joe_Junior |
We can’t but today was still a bit of a sample size of us not taking the next step. |
No it wasn't. It was a match played in conditions where the ball wouldn't move freely for at least 30 minutes, if not more. | |
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| EFL statement has me a bit concerned on 23:51 - Sep 20 with 77 views | Joey_Joe_Joe_Junior |
| EFL statement has me a bit concerned on 23:47 - Sep 20 by TheBoyBlue |
No it wasn't. It was a match played in conditions where the ball wouldn't move freely for at least 30 minutes, if not more. |
Slightly disagree, didn’t make the most of our openings first half and got done with basic defending second, could have easily resulted in the same thing on a bright sunny day. Can’t judge much the last 20-30 mins.
I’m not panicked by today but I also don’t think it was a step forward either. We haven’t asserted ourselves and taken over a game apart from against the worst team in the league (at least they are the moment).
We done ok first half but we need more. If we score against these crap bottom half sides well kick on but we are struggling to do so and have an error in us. [Post edited 20 Sep 23:52]
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| EFL statement has me a bit concerned on 23:54 - Sep 20 with 50 views | TheBoyBlue |
| EFL statement has me a bit concerned on 23:51 - Sep 20 by Joey_Joe_Joe_Junior |
Slightly disagree, didn’t make the most of our openings first half and got done with basic defending second, could have easily resulted in the same thing on a bright sunny day. Can’t judge much the last 20-30 mins.
I’m not panicked by today but I also don’t think it was a step forward either. We haven’t asserted ourselves and taken over a game apart from against the worst team in the league (at least they are the moment).
We done ok first half but we need more. If we score against these crap bottom half sides well kick on but we are struggling to do so and have an error in us. [Post edited 20 Sep 23:52]
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The conditions were dubious from the start. We were the better team in the first half and then the conditions were certainly coming into play in the second.
I'm glad your not panicked, I was worried for a moment. 😁 | |
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| EFL statement has me a bit concerned on 23:58 - Sep 20 with 21 views | Mark |
It will surely be a replay, but I will be glad when that is confirmed. It was Blackburn's pitch which became waterlogged, so nothing we could do and there is surely no way we will be denied our chance to equalise in the time which would have remained.
I remember when Ipswich v Middlesbrough was postponed at Portman Road after half an hour due to a frozen pitch at 0-0. ITFC actually charged people who attended the first match up to £10 to attend the replay! Not Clegg and Evan's finest hour. I can't remember if season ticket holders had to pay it. [Post edited 21 Sep 0:01]
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