| Apols if posted already. Mathie doesn't seem confident. on 13:25 - Sep 23 with 457 views | Trequartista |
I was very surprised to see that, had to re-read a few times to check i'd understood it correctly. He's seen all the games so his opinion has worth, but with the squad we now have, there would have to be a significant failure somewhere for us not to be challenging for automatic promotion. |  |
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| I wonder on 13:26 - Sep 23 with 445 views | Dyland |
| Apols if posted already. Mathie doesn't seem confident. on 11:32 - Sep 23 by cressi |
But his right isn't he. We look poor with a mistake in us every game. I wonder has McKenna run out of ideas. I hope not but we have been on a awful run months.Apart from a awful Sheffield United we have hardly excelled over the last ten months. |
Are other teams allowed to make mistakes?
Some of our fans hold us up to such high standards. Unrealistic standards, some may say.
I wonder if this is par for the course at all clubs. |  |
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| Apols if posted already. Mathie doesn't seem confident. on 13:49 - Sep 23 with 373 views | WestSussexBlue |
| Apols if posted already. Mathie doesn't seem confident. on 09:48 - Sep 23 by GlasgowBlue |
I listened to him in the car after the game on Saturday. I thought he was unnecessarily negative about our promotion chances. |
Or at this point in time perhaps realistic. |  | | |
| nft (n/t) on 14:02 - Sep 23 with 352 views | Dyland |
| Apols if posted already. Mathie doesn't seem confident. on 11:32 - Sep 23 by cressi |
But his right isn't he. We look poor with a mistake in us every game. I wonder has McKenna run out of ideas. I hope not but we have been on a awful run months.Apart from a awful Sheffield United we have hardly excelled over the last ten months. |
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| I wonder on 14:08 - Sep 23 with 344 views | HighgateBlue |
| I wonder on 13:26 - Sep 23 by Dyland |
Are other teams allowed to make mistakes?
Some of our fans hold us up to such high standards. Unrealistic standards, some may say.
I wonder if this is par for the course at all clubs. |
Well if comparing us to other clubs is what you want to do, then there's an established way of doing that. We're 17th, and we've beaten one team, who have lost all of their games.
So we're behind 16 teams. Oh, and mighty Bromley.
Even forgetting the Blackburn debacle, and assuming that the EFL Board get us out of jail there, 6 points from 5 league games is so very far from playoff form.
Mathie's right, it will be a tough ask. It's far from impossible of course, but the bookies' odds putting us favourites for the title still are just plain bonkers. |  | | |
| Apols if posted already. Mathie doesn't seem confident. on 14:13 - Sep 23 with 334 views | Smoresy |
| Apols if posted already. Mathie doesn't seem confident. on 13:20 - Sep 23 by jas0999 |
Good article and he’s spot on. We simply had to hit the ground running and didn’t. We are now playing catch up. KM really needs a strategy to play at places like Preston and Blackburn. Teams will more often than not play like Derby at PR as well. These games will be a slog which doesn’t suit us. KM must find a way to get results from these type of games.
Mathie is spot on regarding the Blackburn goal. |
We're only playing catch-up on one parachute club though, potentially none if Leicester receive their penalty. That's notable because it's the parachute clubs which routinely clear 90 points.
Remove our 23/24 heroics and the next best points tally for a non-parachute club in the past 5 years is 80. We'd need to go at 1.83-1.88 points per game from here to exceed that, dependent on the Blackburn outcome. So while I don't rule out a non-parachute club repeating our feat, or getting close to 90, it isn't obvious yet imo that we've lost much ground compared with what we thought we'd need to do before the season started, which was to average 2 PPG or higher. | | | |
| Apols if posted already. Mathie doesn't seem confident. on 14:34 - Sep 23 with 314 views | ITFCson |
Waffle from Mathie claiming getting us promoted will be a greater achievement than 2 years ago.
We are still favourites to win the league, and 3 teams get promoted. | | | |
| Apols if posted already. Mathie doesn't seem confident. on 14:42 - Sep 23 with 307 views | bsw72 |
| Apols if posted already. Mathie doesn't seem confident. on 13:14 - Sep 23 by PhilTWTD |
It surprises me a bit as well. I don't think we've given many chances this season at all, a couple of goals with more obvious errors have perhaps put the focus on them and then the red card at the weekend, which was a lot to do with the conditions, as was everything else in the match, to be honest. |
People are disappointed, possibly angry, with the likes of Burgess and Woolfenden going, so look for almost any opportunity to point errors in the current 1st choices.
I feel for Greaves as those who pick holes on him always seem to refer to the fact he cost £18M more than his predecessors - that was not his choice, and I feel that sits heavily on his shoulders as well . . . |  | | |
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| Haha very good! on 14:49 - Sep 23 with 298 views | Dyland |
| I wonder on 14:08 - Sep 23 by HighgateBlue |
Well if comparing us to other clubs is what you want to do, then there's an established way of doing that. We're 17th, and we've beaten one team, who have lost all of their games.
So we're behind 16 teams. Oh, and mighty Bromley.
Even forgetting the Blackburn debacle, and assuming that the EFL Board get us out of jail there, 6 points from 5 league games is so very far from playoff form.
Mathie's right, it will be a tough ask. It's far from impossible of course, but the bookies' odds putting us favourites for the title still are just plain bonkers. |
I totally agree with your last sentence. | |
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| Apols if posted already. Mathie doesn't seem confident. on 16:24 - Sep 23 with 245 views | ArnieM |
| Apols if posted already. Mathie doesn't seem confident. on 13:17 - Sep 23 by PhilTWTD |
I really don't think we can be judged for a while yet with such change and so many players coming in late. Is a long, long season. One of the coaches told a friend of mine that the squad is far better than anything they've worked with before, it's just moulding them into a team. |
....and that's the crux of it,isn't it. You can have a squad of very expensive, gifted plsyer, but if you cant mould them into an effective " team" its money wasted.
The foubkeveinning promotion team, was exactly that, a team. A band of brothers if you will, who became very close on and off the park. There were no flag ship, expensive signings amongst them. No competition for the " top dog" tag in the squad. They all felt equal. I feel that was largely disrupted in the PL season with the expensive imports, who were played ahead of the original players, no matter what their form was like. I'd be amazed if it didn't cause some disgruntlement. Well it did, because thise players have now left. But now were onto another new squad, and so the wheel turns.... FWIW, when they do click, they are going to smash a fair number of teams this season I think. |  |
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| Apols if posted already. Mathie doesn't seem confident. on 16:34 - Sep 23 with 223 views | billlm |
| Apols if posted already. Mathie doesn't seem confident. on 13:10 - Sep 23 by LeoMuff |
Think the next games including Norwich we will know exactly where we stand, I do share the pessimism unfortunately we look a shadow of the 23/24 side.
Playing out from the back looks way off, nothing goes through centrally, not often playing through the lines just safe options. We are creating more than the first game of the season but struggling to finish chances.
I was hopeful after Sheff Utd but the first half there wasn’t great, Birmingham dire, Preston we created little at all, Derby again good first half at times but struggled.
There are some positives but I’m yet to be convinced. |
Meant to up you, little seeds there but need to grow fast, |  | | |
| Apols if posted already. Mathie doesn't seem confident. on 17:59 - Sep 23 with 111 views | bournemouthblue |
It does feel like a season where we finish on the playoffs and may well then win them
You often get a ex-PL side in there who has an underwhelming season but has that residual quality to win the bigger games in the playoffs |  |
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