| Does O’Shea get an assist for their 1st goal? 08:29 - Oct 22 with 968 views | Keno |
It was a lively cushioned header to whatever his name was |  |
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| Does O’Shea get an assist for their 1st goal? on 08:32 - Oct 22 with 950 views | baxterbasics |
Wasn't just the initial header that irked me, but also the way he just backs off and backs off until the attacker was in shooting range. May as well not have been there. |  |
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| Does O’Shea get an assist for their 1st goal? on 08:41 - Oct 22 with 908 views | BseaBlue |
| Does O’Shea get an assist for their 1st goal? on 08:32 - Oct 22 by baxterbasics |
Wasn't just the initial header that irked me, but also the way he just backs off and backs off until the attacker was in shooting range. May as well not have been there. |
He does that all the time though. Does that weird thing where he backs off and points to the way he thinks the attacker is going. Very weird. |  | | |
| Does O’Shea get an assist for their 1st goal? on 08:47 - Oct 22 with 871 views | pointofblue |
| Does O’Shea get an assist for their 1st goal? on 08:32 - Oct 22 by baxterbasics |
Wasn't just the initial header that irked me, but also the way he just backs off and backs off until the attacker was in shooting range. May as well not have been there. |
I get backing off rather than making a challenge - particularly when last man - but surely he could have done more to shepherd him away from goal?
He did exactly the same thing later in the half. |  |
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| Does O’Shea get an assist for their 1st goal? on 08:48 - Oct 22 with 866 views | IH_KGF |
| Does O’Shea get an assist for their 1st goal? on 08:32 - Oct 22 by baxterbasics |
Wasn't just the initial header that irked me, but also the way he just backs off and backs off until the attacker was in shooting range. May as well not have been there. |
Its a tough one, if he commits too early and misses the tackle it looks just as bad.
But that header was pathetic wasn't it. But at the same time where is his CB partner shouting/screaming instructions to him, or even taking control of the situation. Those two aren't a good CB pairing at all.
But both here because of a higher ceiling, or something.
Burgess is an outstanding championship defender, and we let him leave. incredible |  | | |
| Does O’Shea get an assist for their 1st goal? on 09:04 - Oct 22 with 832 views | homer_123 |
| Does O’Shea get an assist for their 1st goal? on 08:32 - Oct 22 by baxterbasics |
Wasn't just the initial header that irked me, but also the way he just backs off and backs off until the attacker was in shooting range. May as well not have been there. |
So, from a coaching perspective, he did exactly the right thing. He's got to try and delay the striker as long as possible and not over commit.
By delaying, a teammate should be coming across and supporting him or getting into a covering position so O'Shea can try and win the ball, neither happened. He was showing the attacker outside, his body position was good in that regard.
If I'm brutally honest, it's a shot Palmer would have saved, I think. [Post edited 22 Oct 9:25]
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| Does O’Shea get an assist for their 1st goal? on 09:07 - Oct 22 with 793 views | BseaBlue |
| Does O’Shea get an assist for their 1st goal? on 09:04 - Oct 22 by homer_123 |
So, from a coaching perspective, he did exactly the right thing. He's got to try and delay the striker as long as possible and not over commit.
By delaying, a teammate should be coming across and supporting him or getting into a covering position so O'Shea can try and win the ball, neither happened. He was showing the attacker outside, his body position was good in that regard.
If I'm brutally honest, it's a shot Palmer would have saved, I think. [Post edited 22 Oct 9:25]
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9 times out of 10, when the attacking player gets the ball in that position, the defender takes one for the team and fouls him. Yes it will be a yellow but it removes the danger.
Carey done exactly that for them in the first half when Akpom broke through and was running towards goal. | | | |
| Does O’Shea get an assist for their 1st goal? on 09:09 - Oct 22 with 774 views | homer_123 |
| Does O’Shea get an assist for their 1st goal? on 09:07 - Oct 22 by BseaBlue |
9 times out of 10, when the attacking player gets the ball in that position, the defender takes one for the team and fouls him. Yes it will be a yellow but it removes the danger.
Carey done exactly that for them in the first half when Akpom broke through and was running towards goal. |
That, of course, is also an option. | |
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| Does O’Shea get an assist for their 1st goal? on 09:11 - Oct 22 with 718 views | Rozz |
| Does O’Shea get an assist for their 1st goal? on 09:04 - Oct 22 by homer_123 |
So, from a coaching perspective, he did exactly the right thing. He's got to try and delay the striker as long as possible and not over commit.
By delaying, a teammate should be coming across and supporting him or getting into a covering position so O'Shea can try and win the ball, neither happened. He was showing the attacker outside, his body position was good in that regard.
If I'm brutally honest, it's a shot Palmer would have saved, I think. [Post edited 22 Oct 9:25]
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I did think that watching it back tbh, albeit only seen it once.
O'Shea shows him the angle and he still manages to score near post. O'Shea comes out of it looking terrible (and may well be fair enough) but there's plenty of opportunity for us to prevent the goal. |  | | |
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| Does O’Shea get an assist for their 1st goal? on 09:36 - Oct 22 with 606 views | darkhorse28 |
We have two centre backs who don’t want to go win first balls.
At any level it’s criminal, in this league, it’ll cost a goal a game easily.
Under 9’s are told not to let balls bounce, deal with it, Greaves is shockingly bad for it.
New owners, new chairman, new manager, new stat.., a mess isn’t it.
What happens when owners aren’t football people and index the entire club to Mark Ashton with no oversight. | | | |
| Does O’Shea get an assist for their 1st goal? on 09:57 - Oct 22 with 554 views | Chris_ITFC |
| Does O’Shea get an assist for their 1st goal? on 08:48 - Oct 22 by IH_KGF |
Its a tough one, if he commits too early and misses the tackle it looks just as bad.
But that header was pathetic wasn't it. But at the same time where is his CB partner shouting/screaming instructions to him, or even taking control of the situation. Those two aren't a good CB pairing at all.
But both here because of a higher ceiling, or something.
Burgess is an outstanding championship defender, and we let him leave. incredible |
Or any midfielder within a 100 mile radius maybe, to pick up the second ball?
Cajuste and Nunez was suicidal. |  |
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| I don’t agree…. on 09:58 - Oct 22 with 548 views | Bloots |
| Does O’Shea get an assist for their 1st goal? on 09:04 - Oct 22 by homer_123 |
So, from a coaching perspective, he did exactly the right thing. He's got to try and delay the striker as long as possible and not over commit.
By delaying, a teammate should be coming across and supporting him or getting into a covering position so O'Shea can try and win the ball, neither happened. He was showing the attacker outside, his body position was good in that regard.
If I'm brutally honest, it's a shot Palmer would have saved, I think. [Post edited 22 Oct 9:25]
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…to be honest.
O’Shea may have his body in the correct position, but he doesn’t force the player wide at all. Hr allows him to run directly at the goal and he only shifts it wider to get his shot away.
O’Shea’s positioning on the pitch was all wrong and he should have done better.
Basic stuff. |  |
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| Does O’Shea get an assist for their 1st goal? on 10:04 - Oct 22 with 502 views | BlueNomad |
| Does O’Shea get an assist for their 1st goal? on 09:36 - Oct 22 by darkhorse28 |
We have two centre backs who don’t want to go win first balls.
At any level it’s criminal, in this league, it’ll cost a goal a game easily.
Under 9’s are told not to let balls bounce, deal with it, Greaves is shockingly bad for it.
New owners, new chairman, new manager, new stat.., a mess isn’t it.
What happens when owners aren’t football people and index the entire club to Mark Ashton with no oversight. |
Your last paragraph is ridiculous - you think the Chairman should be defending better?
Last week O’Shea dealt with Ronaldo. Last night he was very poor, a bit like your posts! |  | | |
| Does O’Shea get an assist for their 1st goal? on 10:17 - Oct 22 with 442 views | SamWhiteUK |
| Does O’Shea get an assist for their 1st goal? on 09:07 - Oct 22 by BseaBlue |
9 times out of 10, when the attacking player gets the ball in that position, the defender takes one for the team and fouls him. Yes it will be a yellow but it removes the danger.
Carey done exactly that for them in the first half when Akpom broke through and was running towards goal. |
That's it for me as well. Greaves is covering. Try and make a challenge and if you get booked, so what? |  | | |
| Does O’Shea get an assist for their 1st goal? on 10:24 - Oct 22 with 403 views | Keno |
| Does O’Shea get an assist for their 1st goal? on 10:04 - Oct 22 by BlueNomad |
Your last paragraph is ridiculous - you think the Chairman should be defending better?
Last week O’Shea dealt with Ronaldo. Last night he was very poor, a bit like your posts! |
In fairness Ashton probably would have at least put a tackle in | |
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| Does O’Shea get an assist for their 1st goal? on 10:26 - Oct 22 with 377 views | The_Romford_Blue |
| Does O’Shea get an assist for their 1st goal? on 08:32 - Oct 22 by baxterbasics |
Wasn't just the initial header that irked me, but also the way he just backs off and backs off until the attacker was in shooting range. May as well not have been there. |
I’ve never been more angry at a defensive effort than that first goal in my life. Pathetic defending.
We did the same thing again a minute later which led to the corner for their second goal. |  |
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| Does O’Shea get an assist for their 1st goal? on 10:30 - Oct 22 with 345 views | HighgateBlue |
| Does O’Shea get an assist for their 1st goal? on 10:24 - Oct 22 by Keno |
In fairness Ashton probably would have at least put a tackle in |
I'd be loath to start Ashton as centre back. By the start of the second half he'd also have appointed himself goalkeeper, left back, right wing, and about 4 of the number 10s. |  | | |
| Does O’Shea get an assist for their 1st goal? on 10:30 - Oct 22 with 344 views | badadski |
| Does O’Shea get an assist for their 1st goal? on 09:04 - Oct 22 by homer_123 |
So, from a coaching perspective, he did exactly the right thing. He's got to try and delay the striker as long as possible and not over commit.
By delaying, a teammate should be coming across and supporting him or getting into a covering position so O'Shea can try and win the ball, neither happened. He was showing the attacker outside, his body position was good in that regard.
If I'm brutally honest, it's a shot Palmer would have saved, I think. [Post edited 22 Oct 9:25]
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You are right after the initial crap header he done everything ok apart from not knowing the guy is left footed and showing him onto his left foot - goalkeeper the same - if he isn’t left footed then he has a very good weak foot. | | | |
| Does O’Shea get an assist for their 1st goal? on 10:31 - Oct 22 with 335 views | mellowblue |
| Does O’Shea get an assist for their 1st goal? on 10:17 - Oct 22 by SamWhiteUK |
That's it for me as well. Greaves is covering. Try and make a challenge and if you get booked, so what? |
Greaves was struggling to cover a runner wasn't he ? | | | |
| Does O’Shea get an assist for their 1st goal? on 10:32 - Oct 22 with 324 views | IH_KGF |
| Does O’Shea get an assist for their 1st goal? on 10:26 - Oct 22 by The_Romford_Blue |
I’ve never been more angry at a defensive effort than that first goal in my life. Pathetic defending.
We did the same thing again a minute later which led to the corner for their second goal. |
I played CB, and had an excellent coach aged under 14's - under 16's (Fabio Wardley's uncle to name drop, bloke called Steve Wardley - passed away recently unfortunately)
Anyway he got us to master the art of jockeying a player, until the point where we'd forced them out wide or we'd held them up enough to the point where someone else joined the battle and nicked the ball away.
DOS did neither of these, he ran backwards in a straight line. Our captain, international football and someone with PL experience.
It was an absolute joke to watch | | | |
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