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Have we ever had a player who controls the ball better than Philogene? 09:23 - Nov 5 with 1076 viewsCopfordBlue

His first touch is immaculate.
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Have we ever had a player who controls the ball better than Philogene? on 09:27 - Nov 5 with 929 viewsitfcsuth

Is it?
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Have we ever had a player who controls the ball better than Philogene? on 09:29 - Nov 5 with 908 viewsMrPotatoHead

2 or 3 occasions last night where his 1st touch was absolutely superb.
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Have we ever had a player who controls the ball better than Philogene? on 09:32 - Nov 5 with 890 viewsSwansea_Blue

Have we ever had a player who controls the ball better than Philogene? on 09:27 - Nov 5 by itfcsuth

Is it?


Yes, it’s top class.

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Have we ever had a player who controls the ball better than Philogene? on 09:37 - Nov 5 with 852 viewsitfcsuth

Have we ever had a player who controls the ball better than Philogene? on 09:32 - Nov 5 by Swansea_Blue

Yes, it’s top class.


It is most definitely not 'top class'
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Have we ever had a player who controls the ball better than Philogene? on 09:43 - Nov 5 with 816 viewsbsw72

Yes - plenty.
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Have we ever had a player who controls the ball better than Philogene? on 09:50 - Nov 5 with 792 viewsCopfordBlue

Have we ever had a player who controls the ball better than Philogene? on 09:43 - Nov 5 by bsw72

Yes - plenty.


Name one

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Have we ever had a player who controls the ball better than Philogene? on 09:52 - Nov 5 with 772 viewsSwansea_Blue

Have we ever had a player who controls the ball better than Philogene? on 09:37 - Nov 5 by itfcsuth

It is most definitely not 'top class'
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Were you at the match? If so you probably didn’t see or realise how outrageous a few of his traps were. There were a few he had no right to deal with, but did and created space for himself all in one movement.

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Have we ever had a player who controls the ball better than Philogene? on 09:55 - Nov 5 with 753 viewsCopfordBlue

Have we ever had a player who controls the ball better than Philogene? on 09:52 - Nov 5 by Swansea_Blue

Were you at the match? If so you probably didn’t see or realise how outrageous a few of his traps were. There were a few he had no right to deal with, but did and created space for himself all in one movement.


It’s the same every game and has been throughout his time here. Even when he’s had poor or average games you can pretty much guarantee that whether the ball is in the air or on the ground, left foot, right foot, thigh, chest, head, wherever, he’ll have it under control immediately.

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Have we ever had a player who controls the ball better than Philogene? on 09:55 - Nov 5 with 748 viewsMrPotatoHead

Have we ever had a player who controls the ball better than Philogene? on 09:52 - Nov 5 by Swansea_Blue

Were you at the match? If so you probably didn’t see or realise how outrageous a few of his traps were. There were a few he had no right to deal with, but did and created space for himself all in one movement.


Lovely 1 in the 2nd half, just in from the touchline where he killed quite an untidy ball a foot off the floor dead. A couple in the 1st half too, not easy balls to bring under his spell.
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Have we ever had a player who controls the ball better than Philogene? on 09:57 - Nov 5 with 736 viewsSwansea_Blue

Have we ever had a player who controls the ball better than Philogene? on 09:55 - Nov 5 by MrPotatoHead

Lovely 1 in the 2nd half, just in from the touchline where he killed quite an untidy ball a foot off the floor dead. A couple in the 1st half too, not easy balls to bring under his spell.


Nice wasn’t it. It was quite ridiculous!

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Have we ever had a player who controls the ball better than Philogene? on 10:03 - Nov 5 with 706 viewsitfcsuth

Have we ever had a player who controls the ball better than Philogene? on 09:52 - Nov 5 by Swansea_Blue

Were you at the match? If so you probably didn’t see or realise how outrageous a few of his traps were. There were a few he had no right to deal with, but did and created space for himself all in one movement.


He does deal with the wild ones you wouldn't expect, which is down to his phenomenal individual ability - that isn't in doubt.

But also at least 3 times in the first half, his second touch was a tackle because his first was so poor, and on one occasion on the inside left his first touch was so poor it literally bounced 8-10 yards off him.

He's a talented boy, doesn't do enough consistently. He's a modern day footballer, a show pony, will have a fantastic YouTube highlight reel at the end of the season, but not my sort of player, doesn't fit our team, doesn't fit our style.
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Have we ever had a player who controls the ball better than Philogene? on 10:12 - Nov 5 with 657 viewsrickw

Have we ever had a player who controls the ball better than Philogene? on 10:03 - Nov 5 by itfcsuth

He does deal with the wild ones you wouldn't expect, which is down to his phenomenal individual ability - that isn't in doubt.

But also at least 3 times in the first half, his second touch was a tackle because his first was so poor, and on one occasion on the inside left his first touch was so poor it literally bounced 8-10 yards off him.

He's a talented boy, doesn't do enough consistently. He's a modern day footballer, a show pony, will have a fantastic YouTube highlight reel at the end of the season, but not my sort of player, doesn't fit our team, doesn't fit our style.


....but has scored most of our goals!!

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Have we ever had a player who controls the ball better than Philogene? on 10:22 - Nov 5 with 607 viewshomer_123

Have we ever had a player who controls the ball better than Philogene? on 09:50 - Nov 5 by CopfordBlue

Name one


Didz

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Have we ever had a player who controls the ball better than Philogene? on 10:27 - Nov 5 with 594 viewsitfcsuth

Have we ever had a player who controls the ball better than Philogene? on 10:12 - Nov 5 by rickw

....but has scored most of our goals!!


Some unbelievable moments, the Sheffield Utd display was the bets individual collection of goals you'll see in a match, but then pretty much went missing for 4 games, appeared again last night with an important goal but a largely average display.

That is Philogene in a nutshell.
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Have we ever had a player who controls the ball better than Philogene? on 10:54 - Nov 5 with 548 viewsbsw72

Have we ever had a player who controls the ball better than Philogene? on 09:50 - Nov 5 by CopfordBlue

Name one


Muhren - probably the best touch / ball player the club has ever had.
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Have we ever had a player who controls the ball better than Philogene? on 10:59 - Nov 5 with 526 viewsBluemike31

The Two Dutchmen spring to mind, would make Philogene look like a pantomime Horse with Ricketts.
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Have we ever had a player who controls the ball better than Philogene? on 11:10 - Nov 5 with 492 viewsfarkenhell

Have we ever had a player who controls the ball better than Philogene? on 10:27 - Nov 5 by itfcsuth

Some unbelievable moments, the Sheffield Utd display was the bets individual collection of goals you'll see in a match, but then pretty much went missing for 4 games, appeared again last night with an important goal but a largely average display.

That is Philogene in a nutshell.


Went missing for 4 games after Sheffield Utd? You mean including the worldies he scored against Portsmouth in the following game and against Norwich two games after that?
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Have we ever had a player who controls the ball better than Philogene? on 11:18 - Nov 5 with 455 viewsglasso

Have we ever had a player who controls the ball better than Philogene? on 11:10 - Nov 5 by farkenhell

Went missing for 4 games after Sheffield Utd? You mean including the worldies he scored against Portsmouth in the following game and against Norwich two games after that?


Yeah but what ELSE has he done? :-D
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Have we ever had a player who controls the ball better than Philogene? on 11:20 - Nov 5 with 436 viewsfarkenhell

Have we ever had a player who controls the ball better than Philogene? on 11:18 - Nov 5 by glasso

Yeah but what ELSE has he done? :-D


Apart from roads, sewers, irrigation...
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Have we ever had a player who controls the ball better than Philogene? on 11:24 - Nov 5 with 417 viewsCopfordBlue

Have we ever had a player who controls the ball better than Philogene? on 10:54 - Nov 5 by bsw72

Muhren - probably the best touch / ball player the club has ever had.
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Muhren and Thijssen were magical players, it was a privilege to watch them, they’d make every “best ever” Ipswich team and I’m never going to say anything negative about either of them. On the one specific aspect I’ve mentioned though I’d argue Jaden is at least their equal. The fact you’ve has to go back 45 years to name a player is a huge compliment in itself.
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Have we ever had a player who controls the ball better than Philogene? on 11:28 - Nov 5 with 400 viewssotd78

Really? You ain't watching the same bloke we see....

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Have we ever had a player who controls the ball better than Philogene? on 11:33 - Nov 5 with 376 viewssotd78

Have we ever had a player who controls the ball better than Philogene? on 10:03 - Nov 5 by itfcsuth

He does deal with the wild ones you wouldn't expect, which is down to his phenomenal individual ability - that isn't in doubt.

But also at least 3 times in the first half, his second touch was a tackle because his first was so poor, and on one occasion on the inside left his first touch was so poor it literally bounced 8-10 yards off him.

He's a talented boy, doesn't do enough consistently. He's a modern day footballer, a show pony, will have a fantastic YouTube highlight reel at the end of the season, but not my sort of player, doesn't fit our team, doesn't fit our style.


Yes, both him and Clarke have the wander lust - I think it was what upset Matusiwa. Drifting across the face looking for the perfect shot; losing the bladder, and then leaving the rest to win it all back. I'd like to see that after we are in front; not chasing a goal....
but then my type of player is the Micky Stockwell of this world; not the show pony!

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Have we ever had a player who controls the ball better than Philogene? on 11:35 - Nov 5 with 362 viewsitfcsuth

Have we ever had a player who controls the ball better than Philogene? on 11:10 - Nov 5 by farkenhell

Went missing for 4 games after Sheffield Utd? You mean including the worldies he scored against Portsmouth in the following game and against Norwich two games after that?


No the 4 games post Norwich. Boro, Charlton, West Brom, QPR - virtually annonymous.
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Have we ever had a player who controls the ball better than Philogene? on 11:41 - Nov 5 with 326 viewsCopfordBlue

Have we ever had a player who controls the ball better than Philogene? on 11:28 - Nov 5 by sotd78

Really? You ain't watching the same bloke we see....


Yes really. He has his flaws, many aspects of his game are inconsistent but he’s young and that’s why he’s playing in the championship rather than the top level. The ease with which he brings the ball under control is exceptional.

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Have we ever had a player who controls the ball better than Philogene? on 11:44 - Nov 5 with 305 viewsCafe_Newman

Have we ever had a player who controls the ball better than Philogene? on 10:54 - Nov 5 by bsw72

Muhren - probably the best touch / ball player the club has ever had.
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Ball control: Thijssen for me. Vision and long balls: Muhren. Jaden on the other hand hits a moving ball very sweetly.
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