| The Freddo Index 14:20 - Nov 11 with 2484 views | TNBlue |
In 2005, the minimum wage was £5.05 and a Freddo was 10p. So one hour of work got you 50 Freddos.
In 2025, the minimum wage is £12.21 but a Freddo now costs 35p. An hour of work will now only get you 34 of the little chocolate fellas.
Fix the economy. Inflation is outgrowing income.
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| The Freddo Index on 14:23 - Nov 11 with 2409 views | baxterbasics |
I understand cocoa in particular is one of the hardest hit commodities in recent years when it comes to inflation. |  |
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| The Freddo Index on 14:25 - Nov 11 with 2396 views | TNBlue |
| The Freddo Index on 14:23 - Nov 11 by baxterbasics |
I understand cocoa in particular is one of the hardest hit commodities in recent years when it comes to inflation. |
What does this mean for the future of Freddos? Will they become a commodity only the well off can afford?
Freddos For All! | | | |
| The Freddo Index on 14:29 - Nov 11 with 2357 views | Churchman |
| The Freddo Index on 14:25 - Nov 11 by TNBlue |
What does this mean for the future of Freddos? Will they become a commodity only the well off can afford?
Freddos For All! |
The future is Freddos sold only by Fortnums and Harrods. The plebs will have access to turnips in Freddo form. It’s a healthy option and the nation will be grateful. |  | | |
| The Freddo Index on 14:32 - Nov 11 with 2343 views | TNBlue |
| The Freddo Index on 14:29 - Nov 11 by Churchman |
The future is Freddos sold only by Fortnums and Harrods. The plebs will have access to turnips in Freddo form. It’s a healthy option and the nation will be grateful. |
Think I might buy a couple of boxes and keep them as an investment. In 10 years time, my Freddo stash will be my retirement fund. [Post edited 11 Nov 2025 14:32]
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| The Freddo Index on 14:47 - Nov 11 with 2257 views | MrBeckinsale |
| The Freddo Index on 14:32 - Nov 11 by TNBlue |
Think I might buy a couple of boxes and keep them as an investment. In 10 years time, my Freddo stash will be my retirement fund. [Post edited 11 Nov 2025 14:32]
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Good planning. I did the same with a box of Brannigans Roast Beef & Mustard Crisps. I don't retire for some years, so expecting those to make me a packet. | | | |
| The Freddo Index on 14:57 - Nov 11 with 2219 views | TNBlue |
| The Freddo Index on 14:47 - Nov 11 by MrBeckinsale |
Good planning. I did the same with a box of Brannigans Roast Beef & Mustard Crisps. I don't retire for some years, so expecting those to make me a packet. |
Good investment. I have some mountaineering stuff put away too, hoping it'll be worth a lot in the future. Money for old rope. | | | |
| The Freddo Index on 14:59 - Nov 11 with 2202 views | MrPotatoHead |
| The Freddo Index on 14:23 - Nov 11 by baxterbasics |
I understand cocoa in particular is one of the hardest hit commodities in recent years when it comes to inflation. |
It is, owing to droughts in many of the growing regions, as well as plenty of market manipulation and dodgy governmental interference. Wholesale Cacao has typically cost around $2.5k per tonne, somewhere between $2k - $3k for many years. It hit over $12k last year. It's been mad, looks to finally be cooling off to something more sensible, albeit still double where it had been 2 years ago and since forever.
Either way I can't imagine there's much cacao in a Freddo, they're basically sugar. |  | | |
| The Freddo Index on 15:22 - Nov 11 with 2121 views | NedPlimpton |
Interestingly (or not) house prices in that time have gone from an average of 157k to 270k (according to nationwide), so about 72%
Minimum wage has gone up by 141%
Freddos have gone up by 250%!
All those landlords moaning that they're barely making any money should have invested in freddos!
Should you have chosen bread as your example, it's gone up 103%, so at least you can get more bread for your money |  | | |
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| The Freddo Index on 16:23 - Nov 11 with 1931 views | lowhouseblue |
sorry to be boring :-) but £5.05 in 2005 is equivalent to £8.98 today allowing for the change in the cpi index. so the min wage has actually risen by 36% in real terms. i know that's very dull. |  |
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| The Freddo Index on 16:26 - Nov 11 with 1920 views | Everydayblue |
| The Freddo Index on 14:25 - Nov 11 by TNBlue |
What does this mean for the future of Freddos? Will they become a commodity only the well off can afford?
Freddos For All! |
Lidl will sell Frodos or Fridos, for the great unwashed.. | | | |
| The Freddo Index on 16:30 - Nov 11 with 1899 views | MrBeckinsale |
| The Freddo Index on 14:57 - Nov 11 by TNBlue |
Good investment. I have some mountaineering stuff put away too, hoping it'll be worth a lot in the future. Money for old rope. |
Another friend told me I should've invested more into herbs instead.
Sage advice. | | | |
| The Freddo Index on 16:41 - Nov 11 with 1870 views | ronnyd |
| The Freddo Index on 16:30 - Nov 11 by MrBeckinsale |
Another friend told me I should've invested more into herbs instead.
Sage advice. |
You'll make a mint. | | | |
| The Freddo Index on 17:23 - Nov 11 with 1731 views | C_HealyIsAPleasure |
Although important to factor in the fact (according to my extensive Google research) that Freddo’s are one of the rare food products that have actually increased in size over that period. In 2005 they were a measly 17g compared to the hefty 18g they weigh in at today
Therefore an hour of minimum wage work in 2005 got you 850g of Freddo chocolate compared to 612g today. Still deflation clearly, but only to the tune of 28% compared to the 32% a per item count indicates |  |
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| The Freddo Index on 17:51 - Nov 11 with 1670 views | Swansea_Blue |
“Do I not like that”
(That’s Fred Dibnah for anyone who doesn’t know. Was briefly famous about 40 years ago for climbing up chimneys. I’ve no idea if he used Graham Taylor’s catchphrase though. Probably, it’s all northern innit). |  |
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| The Freddo Index on 17:53 - Nov 11 with 1669 views | Swansea_Blue |
| The Freddo Index on 17:23 - Nov 11 by C_HealyIsAPleasure |
Although important to factor in the fact (according to my extensive Google research) that Freddo’s are one of the rare food products that have actually increased in size over that period. In 2005 they were a measly 17g compared to the hefty 18g they weigh in at today
Therefore an hour of minimum wage work in 2005 got you 850g of Freddo chocolate compared to 612g today. Still deflation clearly, but only to the tune of 28% compared to the 32% a per item count indicates |
I’m disappointed in the OP for misleading the board by not factoring in the size change. Very BBC-esque in the lack of attention to detail. | |
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| The Freddo Index on 19:01 - Nov 11 with 1559 views | WeWereZombies |
| The Freddo Index on 16:26 - Nov 11 by Everydayblue |
Lidl will sell Frodos or Fridos, for the great unwashed.. |
I was going to buy one of those Frodos but I was worried it might be hobbit forming... |  |
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| The Freddo Index on 19:13 - Nov 11 with 1519 views | Swansea_Blue |
| The Freddo Index on 19:01 - Nov 11 by WeWereZombies |
I was going to buy one of those Frodos but I was worried it might be hobbit forming... |
What a load of shi*e.
(Shire, obviously  ) | |
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| The Freddo Index on 07:43 - Nov 12 with 1106 views | BloomBlue |
Or was it because the Cocoa producers in 2005 were paid slave labour wages levels which is why Freddos were cheaper? |  | | |
| The Freddo Index on 09:13 - Nov 12 with 1018 views | mellowblue |
| The Freddo Index on 07:43 - Nov 12 by BloomBlue |
Or was it because the Cocoa producers in 2005 were paid slave labour wages levels which is why Freddos were cheaper? |
the fair trade movement must have had some impact, but it looks like it is more supply and demand the supply being steady (good harvests permitting) and demand increasing (mainly due to my personal chocolate consumption). The price remained steady for decades in the USD 1500-3000 per ton region but spiked upwards during the inflation bubble of a couple of years ago and continued to bounce around the 8000-1200 area, but since has fallen to 5800. There maybe hope for Freddo prices, but as we know, once prices go up, they never seem to come back down. Bustards. | | | |
| The Freddo Index on 09:29 - Nov 12 with 960 views | MrPotatoHead |
| The Freddo Index on 09:13 - Nov 12 by mellowblue |
the fair trade movement must have had some impact, but it looks like it is more supply and demand the supply being steady (good harvests permitting) and demand increasing (mainly due to my personal chocolate consumption). The price remained steady for decades in the USD 1500-3000 per ton region but spiked upwards during the inflation bubble of a couple of years ago and continued to bounce around the 8000-1200 area, but since has fallen to 5800. There maybe hope for Freddo prices, but as we know, once prices go up, they never seem to come back down. Bustards. |
It won't make any difference to Freddo's, they have naff all cacao in them. It was announced recently that McVities can no longer call Penguin's or Club biscuits chocolate as the cacao solids content has reduced below 20%, which is the minimum for it to be called chocolate. I suspect there will be more of this as manufacturers use cheaper ingredients.
Freddo's are 18g at 20% cacao content. The difference in wholesale prices at $2,500 per tonne or $12,500 per tonne is about 1p for every 3 bars they produce. As you say prices aren't coming down, they'll just go up more slowly. This is the thing about inflation coming down, people forget it compounds and we're just talking smaller rises on the already high prices. | | | |
| The Freddo Index on 10:59 - Nov 12 with 866 views | mellowblue |
| The Freddo Index on 09:29 - Nov 12 by MrPotatoHead |
It won't make any difference to Freddo's, they have naff all cacao in them. It was announced recently that McVities can no longer call Penguin's or Club biscuits chocolate as the cacao solids content has reduced below 20%, which is the minimum for it to be called chocolate. I suspect there will be more of this as manufacturers use cheaper ingredients.
Freddo's are 18g at 20% cacao content. The difference in wholesale prices at $2,500 per tonne or $12,500 per tonne is about 1p for every 3 bars they produce. As you say prices aren't coming down, they'll just go up more slowly. This is the thing about inflation coming down, people forget it compounds and we're just talking smaller rises on the already high prices. |
in theory the cost input being a varying value commodity like cacao the inflation should not compound as it would for something like wages which obviously go up, up ,up. But it is a moot point if as you say, Freddo's have such a small quantity of chocolate. Maybe it relates to increased energy prices, distribution costs, wages, the cost of sugar etc. | | | |
| The Freddo Index on 11:46 - Nov 12 with 813 views | MrPotatoHead |
| The Freddo Index on 10:59 - Nov 12 by mellowblue |
in theory the cost input being a varying value commodity like cacao the inflation should not compound as it would for something like wages which obviously go up, up ,up. But it is a moot point if as you say, Freddo's have such a small quantity of chocolate. Maybe it relates to increased energy prices, distribution costs, wages, the cost of sugar etc. |
Yes I think all of the above, staff costs probably being a big one, and transport as you say.
These big firms often hedge their commodity pricing some way out too, I know Mars had enough cover for the whole of 2025 at old pricing, so possibly just taking the opportunity to raise prices while it wont really get noticed as everyone else is doing it. Not just from a consumer point of view but also with their retailer partners who are often very quick to push back on increases. Everyone has been sticking price increases through over this period though, so its a good time to justify it, and you don't want to be left out at sea when the tide changes. | | | |
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