| RFK Jr wrong again 14:24 - Nov 20 with 1789 views | StokieBlue |
Seems his crusade against fluoride being added to water supplies is yet another medical subject he's got wrong:
"A new decades-long study has found no evidence that exposure to recommended levels of fluoride lowers children’s cognitive skills."
https://share.google/JoiQm90tL
He's previously called fluoride "industrial waste linked to cancer, disease and disorders".
He's hugely dangerous and the way it's is going to cause health affects for millions of people for decades to come.
Hopefully the cities which have already removed it will reconsider given then benefits it gives with regards to dental health.
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| RFK Jr wrong again on 15:01 - Nov 20 with 1693 views | Steve_M |
Have you seen that the CDC website is now putting out false claims about vaccines and autism?
The CDC website now disseminates disinformation about vaccines, claiming erroneously that infant vaccines might cause autism, when we know conclusively that they do not. It is difficult to overstate just how dangerous this is. www.cdc.gov/vaccine-safe... — Miranda Yaver (@mirandayaver.bsky.social) 2025-11-20T12:27:29.199Z
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| RFK Jr wrong again on 16:25 - Nov 20 with 1555 views | StokieBlue |
| RFK Jr wrong again on 15:01 - Nov 20 by Steve_M |
Have you seen that the CDC website is now putting out false claims about vaccines and autism?
The CDC website now disseminates disinformation about vaccines, claiming erroneously that infant vaccines might cause autism, when we know conclusively that they do not. It is difficult to overstate just how dangerous this is. www.cdc.gov/vaccine-safe... — Miranda Yaver (@mirandayaver.bsky.social) 2025-11-20T12:27:29.199Z
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Hadn't seen that.
Truly awful.
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| RFK Jr wrong again on 16:37 - Nov 20 with 1534 views | Swansea_Blue |
| RFK Jr wrong again on 15:01 - Nov 20 by Steve_M |
Have you seen that the CDC website is now putting out false claims about vaccines and autism?
The CDC website now disseminates disinformation about vaccines, claiming erroneously that infant vaccines might cause autism, when we know conclusively that they do not. It is difficult to overstate just how dangerous this is. www.cdc.gov/vaccine-safe... — Miranda Yaver (@mirandayaver.bsky.social) 2025-11-20T12:27:29.199Z
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Christ. I hate to bring it back to ‘them’ again, as they’re getting too much publicity as it is. However, this is a route we’re likely to go down with Reform. Farage has already peddled a number of falsehoods about various medicines and Reform pushed anti-vax messages at their annual conference; all from the same playbook. They’ll do whatever it takes to form their own mini-MAGA tribe.
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| RFK Jr wrong again on 16:47 - Nov 20 with 1499 views | Churchman |
| RFK Jr wrong again on 16:37 - Nov 20 by Swansea_Blue |
Christ. I hate to bring it back to ‘them’ again, as they’re getting too much publicity as it is. However, this is a route we’re likely to go down with Reform. Farage has already peddled a number of falsehoods about various medicines and Reform pushed anti-vax messages at their annual conference; all from the same playbook. They’ll do whatever it takes to form their own mini-MAGA tribe.
These populists are exceptionally dangerous. |
They seem to reject logic, common sense, experts, evidence, advice, history, knowledge, the word of anyone beyond the idiot they see in the mirror. The idea that you say so it must be true is as far as it gets with them.
If they were on Speakers Corner rabbiting away with the end of the world loons, it’d be fine. But they're not and thanks to morons like RFK Jr, people will unnecessarily die. It’s as simple as that yet so many, like my crazy friend I saw in London on Weds, just won’t even entertain that the likes of him might be wrong.
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| RFK Jr wrong again on 17:10 - Nov 20 with 1466 views | BlueBadger |
| RFK Jr wrong again on 16:47 - Nov 20 by Churchman |
They seem to reject logic, common sense, experts, evidence, advice, history, knowledge, the word of anyone beyond the idiot they see in the mirror. The idea that you say so it must be true is as far as it gets with them.
If they were on Speakers Corner rabbiting away with the end of the world loons, it’d be fine. But they're not and thanks to morons like RFK Jr, people will unnecessarily die. It’s as simple as that yet so many, like my crazy friend I saw in London on Weds, just won’t even entertain that the likes of him might be wrong.
Bonkers. |
They have Very Real Concerns. |  |
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| RFK Jr wrong again on 17:17 - Nov 20 with 1445 views | Ewan_Oozami |
| RFK Jr wrong again on 17:10 - Nov 20 by BlueBadger |
They have Very Real Concerns. |
Have we now got to the point where those who didn't currently have Very Real Concerns should now be having Very Real Concerns about the people who have Very Real Concerns??? |  |
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| RFK Jr wrong again on 17:25 - Nov 20 with 1428 views | iamatractorboy |
I may be wrong (and ready to be corrected if so), but it seems to me like right wingers are much more likely to be anti-vax. And for the life of me I can't think of the grifting reason. 'Alternative therapies'? What is the real reason? |  | | |
| RFK Jr wrong again on 17:38 - Nov 20 with 1393 views | DanTheMan |
| RFK Jr wrong again on 17:25 - Nov 20 by iamatractorboy |
I may be wrong (and ready to be corrected if so), but it seems to me like right wingers are much more likely to be anti-vax. And for the life of me I can't think of the grifting reason. 'Alternative therapies'? What is the real reason? |
It didn't always used to be this way, if anything it used to be more of a left wing thing. Being distrustring of big corporations etc.
Over time, it's slowly shifted rightwards for whatever reason.
Anti-vax has been around in some form or another since vaccines were a thing, but the major starting point on the autism thing was basically what you're getting at.
Good old Andrew Wakefield doing an abysmal and basically fradulent study to say the MMR jab (specifically that, not all vaccines) caused autism and that you should actually split up the vaccine.
And in an astonish coincidence it just so happened he was developing an alternative vaccine!
Despite this all being on the record in loads of interviews at the time, he somehow managed to pivot to "vaccines bad" when the original grift got found out.
Unfortunately the damage was done. |  |
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| RFK Jr wrong again on 17:41 - Nov 20 with 1379 views | Bugs |
| RFK Jr wrong again on 17:25 - Nov 20 by iamatractorboy |
I may be wrong (and ready to be corrected if so), but it seems to me like right wingers are much more likely to be anti-vax. And for the life of me I can't think of the grifting reason. 'Alternative therapies'? What is the real reason? |
That they are right wing means they are less likely to have evidence based opinions? |  | | |
| RFK Jr wrong again on 17:43 - Nov 20 with 1367 views | Ewan_Oozami |
| RFK Jr wrong again on 17:41 - Nov 20 by Bugs |
That they are right wing means they are less likely to have evidence based opinions? |
I think that is what all the evidence points to.... | |
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| RFK Jr wrong again on 17:45 - Nov 20 with 1358 views | Plums |
| RFK Jr wrong again on 17:25 - Nov 20 by iamatractorboy |
I may be wrong (and ready to be corrected if so), but it seems to me like right wingers are much more likely to be anti-vax. And for the life of me I can't think of the grifting reason. 'Alternative therapies'? What is the real reason? |
It's only a hunch but I guess it's less messy to kill millions through promoting stupidity than anything that might be called a war crime? [Post edited 20 Nov 2025 17:46]
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| RFK Jr wrong again on 17:52 - Nov 20 with 1324 views | DJR |
I'll take every vaccine or medicine going, but I am quite happy to live in an area where the water isn't fluoridised, being instead content to use fluoride toothpaste and the like.
Indeed, if we want to improve the dental heath of the population, I think we we need to ensure greater availability of NHS dentistry. [Post edited 20 Nov 2025 17:53]
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| RFK Jr wrong again on 18:12 - Nov 20 with 1247 views | Swansea_Blue |
| RFK Jr wrong again on 16:47 - Nov 20 by Churchman |
They seem to reject logic, common sense, experts, evidence, advice, history, knowledge, the word of anyone beyond the idiot they see in the mirror. The idea that you say so it must be true is as far as it gets with them.
If they were on Speakers Corner rabbiting away with the end of the world loons, it’d be fine. But they're not and thanks to morons like RFK Jr, people will unnecessarily die. It’s as simple as that yet so many, like my crazy friend I saw in London on Weds, just won’t even entertain that the likes of him might be wrong.
Bonkers. |
Yep, agree with all of that. We’re a bloody stupid species at times. | |
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| RFK Jr wrong again on 19:21 - Nov 20 with 1116 views | You_Bloo_Right |
| RFK Jr wrong again on 18:12 - Nov 20 by Swansea_Blue |
Yep, agree with all of that. We’re a bloody stupid species at times. |
A person may be intelligent but, yes, people are stupid. |  |
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| RFK Jr wrong again on 21:01 - Nov 20 with 1013 views | Guthrum |
| RFK Jr wrong again on 17:25 - Nov 20 by iamatractorboy |
I may be wrong (and ready to be corrected if so), but it seems to me like right wingers are much more likely to be anti-vax. And for the life of me I can't think of the grifting reason. 'Alternative therapies'? What is the real reason? |
It's not a grifting reason, as such, except insofar as there is a large following to be harvested by spouting this stuff. There are a number of strands at the heart of this.
A distrust of "Big Pharma", i.e. large corporations seeking to entrap people in lucrative dependencies on the drugs they sell. Doesn't translate to the UK, as we have the NHS, a price cap (for now) and are less free with medicating everybody for everything.
The idea of universal healthcare undermines the US national philosophy of independence and self-responsibility ("freedom", as they call it). Subconsciously, they don't see themselves as a cohesive society, but more a loose gathering of rugged frontier types, surviving entirely by their own efforts (which the frontier pioneers actually didn't, but this is fiction, not history). If someone is shoving drugs into you unasked, that gives a level of control and abdication of will.
Alternative medicine appeals to the kind of people who are into alternative economics, alternative history and alternative truth. It fits into their world-view that the mainstream has got it wrong (or is deliberately misleading for nefarious reasons). It's the red pill option. |  |
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| RFK Jr wrong again on 22:22 - Nov 20 with 906 views | BlueBadger |
| RFK Jr wrong again on 19:21 - Nov 20 by You_Bloo_Right |
A person may be intelligent but, yes, people are stupid. |
In the words of Sir Terry Pratchett, the intelligence of a mob is the IQ of its dimmest member divided by the number of people turning out. | |
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| RFK Jr wrong again on 22:31 - Nov 20 with 884 views | Joey_Joe_Joe_Junior |
| RFK Jr wrong again on 17:25 - Nov 20 by iamatractorboy |
I may be wrong (and ready to be corrected if so), but it seems to me like right wingers are much more likely to be anti-vax. And for the life of me I can't think of the grifting reason. 'Alternative therapies'? What is the real reason? |
Traditionally a left wing thing actually, loads of organic hippy types still don't take them and the left didn't ever trust big pharma and the capitalist nature of modern medicine.
During Covid things changed for a few reasons. |  |
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| RFK Jr wrong again on 22:50 - Nov 20 with 837 views | BlueBadger |
| RFK Jr wrong again on 22:31 - Nov 20 by Joey_Joe_Joe_Junior |
Traditionally a left wing thing actually, loads of organic hippy types still don't take them and the left didn't ever trust big pharma and the capitalist nature of modern medicine.
During Covid things changed for a few reasons. |
I mean, the phrase 'never trust a hippy' exists for a reason. | |
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| RFK Jr wrong again on 00:04 - Nov 21 with 771 views | Churchman |
| RFK Jr wrong again on 17:52 - Nov 20 by DJR |
I'll take every vaccine or medicine going, but I am quite happy to live in an area where the water isn't fluoridised, being instead content to use fluoride toothpaste and the like.
Indeed, if we want to improve the dental heath of the population, I think we we need to ensure greater availability of NHS dentistry. [Post edited 20 Nov 2025 17:53]
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I have no problem with fuoridised tap water. None at all. Tastes ok, makes a cup of tea (though admittedly at home Mrs C uses Brita water filter thing).
Now where I’m 100% with you is NHS dentistry. What’s happened in my lifetime on that is a total disgrace. Of course it should be provided on the NHS given dental hygiene is a cornerstone of good health, according to the far cleverer people than me that know.
Agree re vaccination too. The anti vax people are plain wrong. But if people want to go against it fine. It’s a free country - as long as they sign a disclaimer that they will not be treated on taxpayers money should they get flu or Covid etc or their children contract serious measles, mumps etc. in other words, opt out you pay.
Harsh? A little. A bit extreme maybe too but I’m trying to make a point. In a society I don’t think you can have it both ways. As a child in the days the world was sepia and everything fell to bits, you were lined up at school and ate your sugar lump, got stabbed with needles and never thought anything of it.
Neither did my or my mates’ parents. It was normal. But since the only childhood virus I ever contracted was German measles (revenge for ww2?), maybe the line up, stabbing and off you go did no harm? Ok a sample of one is facetious, but you get the drift. | | | |
| RFK Jr wrong again on 00:17 - Nov 21 with 764 views | Denny32 |
All the pharma reps on here i see !! | | | |
| RFK Jr wrong again on 02:05 - Nov 21 with 694 views | Illinoisblue |
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