| That was the perfect game to illustrate the need for patience 22:14 - Nov 25 with 1768 views | The_Flashing_Smile |
Some of you could learn a thing or two. |  |
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| That was the perfect game to illustrate the need for patience on 22:23 - Nov 25 with 1466 views | Rozz |
I tend to stay off here in game as I have a WhatsApp group for all the waffle, but in the context of when posts are made (HT etc.) I think people are right to ask certain questions. That was a bewilderingly bad half of football from both teams, with some real fundamental issues with our patterns of play and execution of the basics.
All came good in the end and I’m sure everyone enjoyed the win. Many positives to take, but much to improve on. |  | | |
| That was the perfect game to illustrate the need for patience on 22:37 - Nov 25 with 1402 views | FrimleyBlue |
what's with this need to learn thing. I didn't see one poster saying we're gonna lose the game, all people spoke about was who poor it was. Just because the subs changed the game it doesnt mean the first 70 minutes didn't happen.
So many people trying to win internet points, it's bizarre. just all be happy with the win and lets discuss the positives of a bloody solid defensive game and a positive final 20 |  |
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| That was the perfect game to illustrate the need for patience on 22:41 - Nov 25 with 1368 views | Juggsy |
It was a moment of dire defending, if that didn’t happen it had 0-0 and lacklustre display written all over it. As it was it was lacklustre display and a good, if somewhat lucky result. |  | | |
| That was the perfect game to illustrate the need for patience on 22:48 - Nov 25 with 1318 views | MrPotatoHead |
| That was the perfect game to illustrate the need for patience on 22:41 - Nov 25 by Juggsy |
It was a moment of dire defending, if that didn’t happen it had 0-0 and lacklustre display written all over it. As it was it was lacklustre display and a good, if somewhat lucky result. |
It wasn’t lucky, we were by far the better side in the 2nd half. |  | | |
| That was the perfect game to illustrate the need for patience on 23:12 - Nov 25 with 1267 views | The_Flashing_Smile |
| That was the perfect game to illustrate the need for patience on 22:37 - Nov 25 by FrimleyBlue |
what's with this need to learn thing. I didn't see one poster saying we're gonna lose the game, all people spoke about was who poor it was. Just because the subs changed the game it doesnt mean the first 70 minutes didn't happen.
So many people trying to win internet points, it's bizarre. just all be happy with the win and lets discuss the positives of a bloody solid defensive game and a positive final 20 |
It's not about internet points (whatever they are). It's, as the title says, having a bit of patience. Not losing you're shizzle too early. That was a very tricky away game - Hull's first defeat at their place. And we came through it very comfortably in the end.
Despite all the wailing from some (and I don't just mean this game) we're 3 points off the auto spots with a game in hand. | |
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| That was the perfect game to illustrate the need for patience on 23:15 - Nov 25 with 1237 views | FrimleyBlue |
| That was the perfect game to illustrate the need for patience on 23:12 - Nov 25 by The_Flashing_Smile |
It's not about internet points (whatever they are). It's, as the title says, having a bit of patience. Not losing you're shizzle too early. That was a very tricky away game - Hull's first defeat at their place. And we came through it very comfortably in the end.
Despite all the wailing from some (and I don't just mean this game) we're 3 points off the auto spots with a game in hand. |
As I said in the other thread. No one was saying we weren't gonna win. There' wasn't a need for patience. What there was a need of which most posts were about was quicker play..better passing and creating more. Which we did with the subs. | |
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| That was the perfect game to illustrate the need for patience on 23:17 - Nov 25 with 1233 views | MrPotatoHead |
Sadly I think you’re wasting your time, moaners gonna moan.
Biggest issue isn’t the trolls and know nothings on here, it’s the negativity inside PR. I don’t think it’s a huge surprise that our away form is better than home of late. It’s in part how the opposition set up and park the bus at PR, but I also don’t think the flat atmosphere is helping our lads.
Need to get some positivity back inside the ground, leave the negativity at the door and back the team. Can’t underestimate the impact it had last time out at this level when some of those tight games swung in our favour. | | | |
| That was the perfect game to illustrate the need for patience on 23:26 - Nov 25 with 1200 views | positivity |
| That was the perfect game to illustrate the need for patience on 23:15 - Nov 25 by FrimleyBlue |
As I said in the other thread. No one was saying we weren't gonna win. There' wasn't a need for patience. What there was a need of which most posts were about was quicker play..better passing and creating more. Which we did with the subs. |
there were plenty in the chat room saying we weren't gonna win from very early on. plenty saying they'd lost all faith in mckenna, plenty wanting a change.
oddly, most logged off or went silent after the 2nd goal! |  |
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| That was the perfect game to illustrate the need for patience on 23:28 - Nov 25 with 1190 views | FrimleyBlue |
| That was the perfect game to illustrate the need for patience on 23:26 - Nov 25 by positivity |
there were plenty in the chat room saying we weren't gonna win from very early on. plenty saying they'd lost all faith in mckenna, plenty wanting a change.
oddly, most logged off or went silent after the 2nd goal! |
Different breed those ones lol | |
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| That was the perfect game to illustrate the need for patience on 23:41 - Nov 25 with 1154 views | SuffolkPunchFC |
| That was the perfect game to illustrate the need for patience on 22:23 - Nov 25 by Rozz |
I tend to stay off here in game as I have a WhatsApp group for all the waffle, but in the context of when posts are made (HT etc.) I think people are right to ask certain questions. That was a bewilderingly bad half of football from both teams, with some real fundamental issues with our patterns of play and execution of the basics.
All came good in the end and I’m sure everyone enjoyed the win. Many positives to take, but much to improve on. |
That’s what happens in a game of football where two teams neutralise each other, as we saw in the first half. It needed an adjustment in gameplay by one side (potentially at risk), which we saw in the 2nd half from Town.
The rest, as they say is history. On that thought, time to call it a night from the forum. | | | |
| That was the perfect game to illustrate the need for patience on 06:27 - Nov 26 with 1030 views | Blue_Heath |
In response to OP, it's easy to be wise after the event.
Waking up today 2-0 away at Hull fabulous result and very happy with the it but it doesn't disguise the fact some poor defending (A Nunez header FFS) and a collapse from them won us the game rather than us being brilliant. Granted we could have had another couple but this is part of the frustration also. The first half was a frustration with so much possession but no end product whereas Hull created more and better chances with less play.
Additionally, if no one commented here during the game this place would be dead and better for people's mental health to vent here than kick the cat etc. I have said it before a post is a capture of someone's thought at a moment in time, that should be taken into context too.
Fair play that we got there in the end, can we follow it up now Friday/Tuesday to start trying to chase down runaway Coventry? | |
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| That was the perfect game to illustrate the need for patience on 12:26 - Nov 26 with 792 views | The_Flashing_Smile |
| That was the perfect game to illustrate the need for patience on 06:27 - Nov 26 by Blue_Heath |
In response to OP, it's easy to be wise after the event.
Waking up today 2-0 away at Hull fabulous result and very happy with the it but it doesn't disguise the fact some poor defending (A Nunez header FFS) and a collapse from them won us the game rather than us being brilliant. Granted we could have had another couple but this is part of the frustration also. The first half was a frustration with so much possession but no end product whereas Hull created more and better chances with less play.
Additionally, if no one commented here during the game this place would be dead and better for people's mental health to vent here than kick the cat etc. I have said it before a post is a capture of someone's thought at a moment in time, that should be taken into context too.
Fair play that we got there in the end, can we follow it up now Friday/Tuesday to start trying to chase down runaway Coventry? |
It's not just being wise after the event though - some of us have had patience and remained positive all season. And even though that first half wasn't great, we understand there are two teams out there, we're away from home at a side who hadn't been beaten at home, and we're trying things that aren't always working. But rather than losing our sh!t like some on here, we tweaked things, dominated the second half and won comfortably. That's football. We see it time and again where people go too early with the vitriol.
And even when we win comfortably you try to make excuses for the opposition. They didn't just collapse by themselves, we forced it. You even contradict youself by admitting we could have had another couple - so it could have been even more comfortable!
If football gives people mental health issues that they might kick the cat rather than rant on here, then that's a bit of a concern TBH. I scream and shout at the TV/laptop sometimes, but I don't feel the need to kick anything or splurge those embarrassing thoughts on the internet. The ones just about the game aren't the worst - that would be the ones who extrapolate onto McKenna, the recruitment, the season as a whole. That's more than just comments/asking questions during a game. | |
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| That was the perfect game to illustrate the need for patience on 12:48 - Nov 26 with 750 views | bluesym |
| That was the perfect game to illustrate the need for patience on 12:26 - Nov 26 by The_Flashing_Smile |
It's not just being wise after the event though - some of us have had patience and remained positive all season. And even though that first half wasn't great, we understand there are two teams out there, we're away from home at a side who hadn't been beaten at home, and we're trying things that aren't always working. But rather than losing our sh!t like some on here, we tweaked things, dominated the second half and won comfortably. That's football. We see it time and again where people go too early with the vitriol.
And even when we win comfortably you try to make excuses for the opposition. They didn't just collapse by themselves, we forced it. You even contradict youself by admitting we could have had another couple - so it could have been even more comfortable!
If football gives people mental health issues that they might kick the cat rather than rant on here, then that's a bit of a concern TBH. I scream and shout at the TV/laptop sometimes, but I don't feel the need to kick anything or splurge those embarrassing thoughts on the internet. The ones just about the game aren't the worst - that would be the ones who extrapolate onto McKenna, the recruitment, the season as a whole. That's more than just comments/asking questions during a game. |
Really enjoyed the win,loved celebrating the goals with my son, but i think its totally fair for people to not be encouraged or worried about that first half performance.
Of course some people are extreme in their negativity, but same could be said about some people in their positivity. I dont think there is anything wrong in people discussing a poor first half in a less than enthused manner. |  |
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| That was the perfect game to illustrate the need for patience on 12:57 - Nov 26 with 712 views | SuffolkPunchFC |
| That was the perfect game to illustrate the need for patience on 12:48 - Nov 26 by bluesym |
Really enjoyed the win,loved celebrating the goals with my son, but i think its totally fair for people to not be encouraged or worried about that first half performance.
Of course some people are extreme in their negativity, but same could be said about some people in their positivity. I dont think there is anything wrong in people discussing a poor first half in a less than enthused manner. |
But where is anyone being enthusiastic about the first half performance? I'm not seeing those posts, whereas I do see posts that are defining our chances for the rest of the season, based on a disappointing 45 minutes, where 2 teams cancelled each other out (and imo, that in itself is more of a negative for a home side who were in a playoff position). | | | |
| That was the perfect game to illustrate the need for patience on 12:59 - Nov 26 with 706 views | bluesym |
| That was the perfect game to illustrate the need for patience on 12:57 - Nov 26 by SuffolkPunchFC |
But where is anyone being enthusiastic about the first half performance? I'm not seeing those posts, whereas I do see posts that are defining our chances for the rest of the season, based on a disappointing 45 minutes, where 2 teams cancelled each other out (and imo, that in itself is more of a negative for a home side who were in a playoff position). |
I didnt day anyone was being enthusiastic about the first half. | |
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| That was the perfect game to illustrate the need for patience on 13:06 - Nov 26 with 675 views | SuffolkPunchFC |
| That was the perfect game to illustrate the need for patience on 12:59 - Nov 26 by bluesym |
I didnt day anyone was being enthusiastic about the first half. |
OK, poor choice of word. Who's being overly positive about it - most of what I've seen is posters being disappointed with the way the first half played out, and realistic about the whys and wherefores. Not something to overly worry about in my opinion, given the positive metrics we're posting in most games now. [Post edited 26 Nov 13:07]
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| That was the perfect game to illustrate the need for patience on 13:09 - Nov 26 with 646 views | djgooder |
| That was the perfect game to illustrate the need for patience on 23:15 - Nov 25 by FrimleyBlue |
As I said in the other thread. No one was saying we weren't gonna win. There' wasn't a need for patience. What there was a need of which most posts were about was quicker play..better passing and creating more. Which we did with the subs. |
I agree. Am surprised people are against a real time discussion. It’s easy to say just be patient when you have the benefit of hindsight. It is just people discussing the game. We were utterly unconvincing during the game. We are all glad we won I am sure but none should be ecstatic about our performance. |  | | |
| That was the perfect game to illustrate the need for patience on 13:17 - Nov 26 with 602 views | positivity |
| That was the perfect game to illustrate the need for patience on 13:09 - Nov 26 by djgooder |
I agree. Am surprised people are against a real time discussion. It’s easy to say just be patient when you have the benefit of hindsight. It is just people discussing the game. We were utterly unconvincing during the game. We are all glad we won I am sure but none should be ecstatic about our performance. |
it's easy to be patient when you have the benefit of experience.
we are below norwich in the first half table, but our greater squad depth, quality and fitness push us over the line more often than not. | |
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| That was the perfect game to illustrate the need for patience on 13:22 - Nov 26 with 571 views | FrimleyBlue |
| That was the perfect game to illustrate the need for patience on 13:17 - Nov 26 by positivity |
it's easy to be patient when you have the benefit of experience.
we are below norwich in the first half table, but our greater squad depth, quality and fitness push us over the line more often than not. |
I think the confusion is more about what the op is in reference to.
I felt when it was posted it was about last nights specific game. But it appears its grown to a general thing.
On the specific game as I mentioned up the thread most forum posts ignoring the chat room were about the happenings on the pitch itself more than forecasting the end result of said game so I didnt see that patience was needed.
As a general op I guess like many things in life some people are patient some aren't.
There are levels to posts tho. Having a tut tut at stuff fine. But some of the recent name calling of km etc is over a line. | |
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| That was the perfect game to illustrate the need for patience on 13:44 - Nov 26 with 536 views | ReusersTown |
| That was the perfect game to illustrate the need for patience on 22:37 - Nov 25 by FrimleyBlue |
what's with this need to learn thing. I didn't see one poster saying we're gonna lose the game, all people spoke about was who poor it was. Just because the subs changed the game it doesnt mean the first 70 minutes didn't happen.
So many people trying to win internet points, it's bizarre. just all be happy with the win and lets discuss the positives of a bloody solid defensive game and a positive final 20 |
The first 70 minutes were an away game against a team in 6th where we haven't conceded a real chance. | | | |
| That was the perfect game to illustrate the need for patience on 13:52 - Nov 26 with 510 views | Vic |
I get what you’re saying, but I think it’s OK to have a moan at the end of a half of pretty atrocious football. However you cut it, that first half was terrible - poor control, poor passing and pretty much no real goal scoring chances made.
Most weren’t throwing the toys out of the pram - but surely it’s ok to have a moan when things are that bad. All we were saying was what KM obviously said in the dressing room - it wasn’t good enough, we need to up our game, etc. we did and we won and all of a sudden we’re up to 4th, three points of second with a game in hand! |  |
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| That was the perfect game to illustrate the need for patience on 13:58 - Nov 26 with 493 views | HighgateBlue |
| That was the perfect game to illustrate the need for patience on 12:26 - Nov 26 by The_Flashing_Smile |
It's not just being wise after the event though - some of us have had patience and remained positive all season. And even though that first half wasn't great, we understand there are two teams out there, we're away from home at a side who hadn't been beaten at home, and we're trying things that aren't always working. But rather than losing our sh!t like some on here, we tweaked things, dominated the second half and won comfortably. That's football. We see it time and again where people go too early with the vitriol.
And even when we win comfortably you try to make excuses for the opposition. They didn't just collapse by themselves, we forced it. You even contradict youself by admitting we could have had another couple - so it could have been even more comfortable!
If football gives people mental health issues that they might kick the cat rather than rant on here, then that's a bit of a concern TBH. I scream and shout at the TV/laptop sometimes, but I don't feel the need to kick anything or splurge those embarrassing thoughts on the internet. The ones just about the game aren't the worst - that would be the ones who extrapolate onto McKenna, the recruitment, the season as a whole. That's more than just comments/asking questions during a game. |
You're right, it is the perfect game to illustrate what you say. Some other games (Wrexham, Boro, Charlton) do not illustrate that. They illustrate that when you have patience, sometimes you are frustrated, sometimes you are massively disappointed.
Hopefully we'll have a lot more like last night's final 25 minutes. It is good to remain patient, both within a game and within a season more broadly, and I'm quite sure I'm one of the worst at being patient, despite seeing its merits. But it's still legitimate to hold, and air, opinions about what is not going well, as well as what is going well.
As regards making broader points during a game, and touching on recruitment and the like: I was never especially angry or frustrated with the manager during the McCarthy years, for example. I think he did a decent job with no money. Kieran has spent masses. Any assessment of his performance must surely take that into account. So if someone grumbles about recruitment, all they're doing is justifying their position. Complaining that we're losing because we're Ipswich and we have some divine right to win is of course nonsense. But complaining that we're losing because we should be doing better having spent so much more than our opponents is a much more legitimate gripe. It might not get anyone anywhere, but it's the expression of a view. For me at least, referring to the money spent is a rationale, rather than something irrelevant to the game in front of me, that may or may not be frustrating me.
So yes, patience is a virtue. You probably have shown more of it than I. Certainly during the last 18 months, anyway. Kieran deserves credit for last night. If fans want to take it out on him after a 0-0, then they need to give him credit for winning away from home against a decent in-form side after a long journey, in the cold. We will reap the benefits of our large squad and his rotation, I feel. At times it will be frustrating, but I will seek to exercise all of the patience I can muster. |  | | |
| That was the perfect game to illustrate the need for patience on 14:00 - Nov 26 with 480 views | Joey_Joe_Joe_Junior |
| That was the perfect game to illustrate the need for patience on 13:44 - Nov 26 by ReusersTown |
The first 70 minutes were an away game against a team in 6th where we haven't conceded a real chance. |
They were rather injured and missing their goal threat, similar to Wrexham. Thats a huge problem for non parachute teams without a tone of squad depth. If you take McBurnie’s goals out for Hull they ain’t up to much and very poor at the back, as was evident when the game opened up.
The result was good, the performance was decent second half after a terrible game of football first half. If we were that sloppy against 3 or 4 teams at full strength we’d have probably have been made to pay in that first half. Still loads to work on but nice to be able to bring on a 20M winger. That’s what should be winning us games and is similar to what we were saying last season for our opposition in tight games, eg Bournemouth at Portman Road.
Basically we done what we needed to when not at our best for 90, with very encouraging late signs, which is of course a big positive. |  |
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| That was the perfect game to illustrate the need for patience on 14:05 - Nov 26 with 464 views | billlm |
| That was the perfect game to illustrate the need for patience on 23:12 - Nov 25 by The_Flashing_Smile |
It's not about internet points (whatever they are). It's, as the title says, having a bit of patience. Not losing you're shizzle too early. That was a very tricky away game - Hull's first defeat at their place. And we came through it very comfortably in the end.
Despite all the wailing from some (and I don't just mean this game) we're 3 points off the auto spots with a game in hand. |
So their defeat at home to Blackburn didn't count,
Facts, |  | | |
| That was the perfect game to illustrate the need for patience on 14:10 - Nov 26 with 443 views | positivity |
| That was the perfect game to illustrate the need for patience on 13:52 - Nov 26 by Vic |
I get what you’re saying, but I think it’s OK to have a moan at the end of a half of pretty atrocious football. However you cut it, that first half was terrible - poor control, poor passing and pretty much no real goal scoring chances made.
Most weren’t throwing the toys out of the pram - but surely it’s ok to have a moan when things are that bad. All we were saying was what KM obviously said in the dressing room - it wasn’t good enough, we need to up our game, etc. we did and we won and all of a sudden we’re up to 4th, three points of second with a game in hand! |
were you in the chat room this week, vic?
numerous posters proclaiming that they'd lost all faith in km etc etc at half time (and before), claims of him being a "one trick pony" whilst lampard is "terrific". a lot was beyond parody! | |
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