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That's not a team.. 22:06 - Dec 2 with 952 viewsFunge

... it's a load of young millionaires, dialling it in.

We *absolutely* honk right now; someone on here described our style as if Man City were playing walking football, which seems very apt.

McK seems to have no new ideas; that's the biggest worry for me. A couple of players starting tonight who palpably aren't good enough....

Dunno what we do - would 4 or 5 'magic' January transfers, akin to HIrst/ Luongo/ Broadhead/ H Clarke 3 years sort us out? I'm not sure if it would.

Very little cause for optimism after a performance like that.....

Edited for shonky spelling

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That's not a team.. on 22:15 - Dec 2 with 832 viewsMrPotatoHead

I can’t really put my finger on it but I find the current squad less likeable as much as anything. It might just be in comparison to those who came before them, and the performances aren’t helping either. There doesn’t seem any real connection between the stands and pitch, atmosphere flat, a lot of money spunked on players who don’t look like they care very much (not all of them).

Frightening that Young & Johnson are rumoured to be on £5m a year between them, and neither look good enough. So much questionable recruitment right across the squad.
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That's not a team.. on 22:18 - Dec 2 with 767 viewsreusersfreekicks

So many players not putting in good enough performances.
Why we chased so many of them I have no idea
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That's not a team.. on 22:19 - Dec 2 with 737 viewsDubtractor

That's not a team.. on 22:15 - Dec 2 by MrPotatoHead

I can’t really put my finger on it but I find the current squad less likeable as much as anything. It might just be in comparison to those who came before them, and the performances aren’t helping either. There doesn’t seem any real connection between the stands and pitch, atmosphere flat, a lot of money spunked on players who don’t look like they care very much (not all of them).

Frightening that Young & Johnson are rumoured to be on £5m a year between them, and neither look good enough. So much questionable recruitment right across the squad.


I'm utterly baffled at why we are spending (supposedly big) money on Young.

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That's not a team.. on 22:21 - Dec 2 with 716 viewsjas0999

Abysmal showing.

Terrible season considering our spend. Managers salary.

KM fired at any other club.
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That's not a team.. on 22:21 - Dec 2 with 715 viewsFunge

That's not a team.. on 22:15 - Dec 2 by MrPotatoHead

I can’t really put my finger on it but I find the current squad less likeable as much as anything. It might just be in comparison to those who came before them, and the performances aren’t helping either. There doesn’t seem any real connection between the stands and pitch, atmosphere flat, a lot of money spunked on players who don’t look like they care very much (not all of them).

Frightening that Young & Johnson are rumoured to be on £5m a year between them, and neither look good enough. So much questionable recruitment right across the squad.


Yep - putting aside my inherent dislike of Ashton, his work in the transfer market needs scrutiny.

Not so much about who we've bought (altho there's plenty enough to examine there), as opposed to who we haven't bought.

3 summers in a row without proper attention to strikers - AAH as back-up to Delap last season for 3 months was bad enough; now we have a desperately out-of-form Hirst and, well, a desperately bad Azon in competition for the 9 shirt.

What on earth has he been doing?

It's nowhere near good enough.
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That's not a team.. on 22:22 - Dec 2 with 690 viewsLamp

Our current gameplan appears to be be relying on Clarke or Philogene to cut inside from the left and blast one in from outside the box.
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That's not a team.. on 22:27 - Dec 2 with 550 viewsMrPotatoHead

That's not a team.. on 22:19 - Dec 2 by Dubtractor

I'm utterly baffled at why we are spending (supposedly big) money on Young.


Nothing about that signing makes much sense.

We’ve got a lopsided squad with 4 right backs and 1 natural left back. We’re flogging Leif Saturday, Tuesday for 100 minutes because we have no cover. Of the 4 right backs we can’t seem to land on 1 preferred option, if it’s Furlong then that’s an awful lot of money to be spending on the back ups. We’ve got no cover for Matusiwa, Taylor couldn’t get near the side since he joined but now he looks the best option. Cajuste flatters to deceive, Akpom has done very little, McAteer as above and how he was £11m I’ll never know. Ogbene looks like £8m wasted. We’ve taken a punt on Ivan as our only back up to Hirst and while he looks alright it’s an area we’ve not properly resourced in literally years now. We knew Delap and Al-Hamadi were off, neither were deadline day surprises but we’ve left ourselves short.

It’s a bit of a clusterfeck if you ask me, it felt like a farrago of late activity despite the whole ‘the benefit of getting relegated early is we get more time to prepare’. We’ve started slowly and stuttered since. We’re lucky the rest of the division (Cov aside) is so average that it’s salvageable.
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That's not a team.. on 22:30 - Dec 2 with 495 viewsCheltenham_Blue

That's not a team.. on 22:19 - Dec 2 by Dubtractor

I'm utterly baffled at why we are spending (supposedly big) money on Young.


I'm starting to understand why there was no new contract offer from Everton though. Spent force, or at least he looks like one. As I've said before, not impressed with his lack of tracking back.

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That's not a team.. on 22:31 - Dec 2 with 476 viewshomer_123

We are not greater than the sum of our parts.

There's a lack of underlying belief and confidence. We don't have that swagger anymore.

My feeling is we had no choice but to change the team in an attempt to stay up. But my sense is, even if we had kept the team as was, relegation would have happened and that confidence and belief would have gone anyway. We'd need to rebuild that regardless.

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That's not a team.. on 22:36 - Dec 2 with 415 viewsBanksterDebtSlave

That's not a team.. on 22:30 - Dec 2 by Cheltenham_Blue

I'm starting to understand why there was no new contract offer from Everton though. Spent force, or at least he looks like one. As I've said before, not impressed with his lack of tracking back.


He might want to but literally can't. Sack him off.

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That's not a team.. on 22:38 - Dec 2 with 371 viewsBanksterDebtSlave

That's not a team.. on 22:31 - Dec 2 by homer_123

We are not greater than the sum of our parts.

There's a lack of underlying belief and confidence. We don't have that swagger anymore.

My feeling is we had no choice but to change the team in an attempt to stay up. But my sense is, even if we had kept the team as was, relegation would have happened and that confidence and belief would have gone anyway. We'd need to rebuild that regardless.


Indeed but we are actually less than the sum of our parts!

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That's not a team.. on 22:39 - Dec 2 with 352 viewsMrPotatoHead

That's not a team.. on 22:30 - Dec 2 by Cheltenham_Blue

I'm starting to understand why there was no new contract offer from Everton though. Spent force, or at least he looks like one. As I've said before, not impressed with his lack of tracking back.


He looks every bit the 40 year old he is. McKenna likes that Keogh / Aluko almost player - coach profile but to pay £50k a week to someone we’ll get about 8-10 starts from is ludicrous.
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That's not a team.. on 22:43 - Dec 2 with 311 viewsreusersfreekicks

That's not a team.. on 22:39 - Dec 2 by MrPotatoHead

He looks every bit the 40 year old he is. McKenna likes that Keogh / Aluko almost player - coach profile but to pay £50k a week to someone we’ll get about 8-10 starts from is ludicrous.


How do you know his salary?
If you are right that is terrinle
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That's not a team.. on 22:43 - Dec 2 with 310 viewsbadadski

That's not a team.. on 22:36 - Dec 2 by BanksterDebtSlave

He might want to but literally can't. Sack him off.


It’s not about swagger, this team don’t have the physicality or pace to get one up on their opponents - same issue as premier league and once the opposition stopped worrying about and playing against the value of the put team and the names they were facing off against and started playing against how good a team we actually are then we were always going to be in trouble. Blackburn were more physical, more direct and wanted it 10x more - was it not for their shocking finishing and a bad ref we would have been pasted akin to Charlton.

It’s a massive concern as teams now know they have nothing to fear and a bit of a hard press and gang up against us and we crumble.
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That's not a team.. on 22:44 - Dec 2 with 296 viewshomer_123

That's not a team.. on 22:38 - Dec 2 by BanksterDebtSlave

Indeed but we are actually less than the sum of our parts!


Not inaccurate to be fair.

I still don't think we are that far away...even after tonight.

We're in an odd place at the moment and it's showing.

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That's not a team.. on 23:05 - Dec 2 with 205 viewsRIPbobby

That's not a team.. on 22:15 - Dec 2 by MrPotatoHead

I can’t really put my finger on it but I find the current squad less likeable as much as anything. It might just be in comparison to those who came before them, and the performances aren’t helping either. There doesn’t seem any real connection between the stands and pitch, atmosphere flat, a lot of money spunked on players who don’t look like they care very much (not all of them).

Frightening that Young & Johnson are rumoured to be on £5m a year between them, and neither look good enough. So much questionable recruitment right across the squad.


I actually think Johnson could do a job in our rebuild. He has seen little action this season, but I think he will be given his chance at the weekend. At least he'll try... Just don't play him fullback.
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That's not a team.. on 00:17 - Dec 3 with 66 viewsalgy

That's not a team.. on 22:31 - Dec 2 by homer_123

We are not greater than the sum of our parts.

There's a lack of underlying belief and confidence. We don't have that swagger anymore.

My feeling is we had no choice but to change the team in an attempt to stay up. But my sense is, even if we had kept the team as was, relegation would have happened and that confidence and belief would have gone anyway. We'd need to rebuild that regardless.


I don't think we were changing the team on an attempt to stay up. I actually thought MA and KM in summer 24 knew we had reached the PL earlier than planned and rather than waste money on a futile attempt to stay in the PL decided to take the PL money and use it to buy players to win promotion back to the PL this season. That seemed like a good plan at the time and has continued on since. Hasn't worked yet and it's KM's job to make it work. It is the first squad in his career that he's worked with that was fully recruited under his management.
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