| McAteer 20:37 - Jan 10 with 4174 views | _CliveBaker_ |
The more I see of him the more I think he’s got something about him.
He’s deceptively quick, gets up and down really well, fit as a butchers dog. I’m not saying he’s worth £11m but I reckon he’s got a role to play. I don’t mind him, the reaction from some of our fans is well OTT. |  | | |  |
| McAteer on 23:25 - Jan 10 with 722 views | Churchman |
| McAteer on 20:51 - Jan 10 by _CliveBaker_ |
Assists is a bullshit metric. He’s created chances, some have deserved better finishing.
He’s also played the equivalent of 7 full games, he needs some time but he’s got the attributes to be effective in that role.
Not saying we don’t need to see more from him, we clearly do and that’s probably behind his lack of game time, there’s definitely a player in there though. I think people were down on him before he stepped on the pitch tbh. |
I too think there is more there. I hope so. The reality is we paid a fee for him. That makes him haters target number whatever, but he’s up there. Muric? Not Hladky and a fat fee paid, pile in. One game: toast. Philogene - high fee, get the boot in hard and fast. Useless before he kicked a ball. Shame he ruined it by doing his own goal of the season, but he’d better carry on or he will be back on the list.
Basically, any fee paid, a player is a target. O’Shea and Greaves? Not Burgess and Woolfy. Boo. But please Burgess and Woolfenden, don’t ruin the narrative with two own goals and being taken to the cleaners.
Sadly, we are not a Newcastle or Sunderland. We don’t ‘do’ getting behind our team in the way they do. Not now. We prefer booing our best CF off, heckling our goalkeeper and giving people the treatment on social media. No wonder the manager, CEO comment on it.
So how does this relate to McAteer? A 23 year old at the time signed for a fee. So straight in the dog house. Is there much to his game? I’ve seen most of the home games live and more incl away games on tv. My view is I’m not sure. I’d just like to see the bloke given a chance. An unfashionable view? Yes, because in today’s world of entitlement, there’s no space for giving people a chance, sadly. |  | | |
| McAteer on 23:36 - Jan 10 with 682 views | Bigalhunter |
| McAteer on 23:19 - Jan 10 by Kieran_Knows |
Though, as I’ve said all along, the price tag, IMHO, lays at the door of Ashton and the staff behind it. Whilst McKenna probably felt he was a player that could improve us - and I can see why - he would’ve simply been on board that he’d have been a good addition and the fee that followed was out of his control.
I don’t mind him, has got a very, very rough ride from this fan base.
Another one falling victim of not being part of the 23/24 squad and therefore is ultimately sh!t, no matter what performance he puts in. |
I genuinely haven’t seen a single performance from him that suggests he offers any level of improvement for us.
Nothing to do with this fallacy from the relentlessly indoctrinated faithful that admirers of the 23/24 squad believe it couldn’t be improved upon.
However you try to dress it up and deflect from whatever fee was paid, he just hasn’t worked.
He doesn’t deserve the abuse he’s received, but he’s one that just needs to be quietly shepherded out of the door for his own good. |  |
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| McAteer on 23:47 - Jan 10 with 663 views | Kieran_Knows |
| McAteer on 23:36 - Jan 10 by Bigalhunter |
I genuinely haven’t seen a single performance from him that suggests he offers any level of improvement for us.
Nothing to do with this fallacy from the relentlessly indoctrinated faithful that admirers of the 23/24 squad believe it couldn’t be improved upon.
However you try to dress it up and deflect from whatever fee was paid, he just hasn’t worked.
He doesn’t deserve the abuse he’s received, but he’s one that just needs to be quietly shepherded out of the door for his own good. |
Again, the fee isn’t his problem. The fee will lay at the door of the powers that be, which I suspect is Ashton and co.
The relentless faithful of the 23/24 squad is real, and incredibly damaging this season. I’ve said time and time again, this group had no chance, before a ball was even kicked. |  |
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| McAteer on 23:53 - Jan 10 with 654 views | FrimleyBlue |
| McAteer on 23:47 - Jan 10 by Kieran_Knows |
Again, the fee isn’t his problem. The fee will lay at the door of the powers that be, which I suspect is Ashton and co.
The relentless faithful of the 23/24 squad is real, and incredibly damaging this season. I’ve said time and time again, this group had no chance, before a ball was even kicked. |
The thing is the football is different too.
Even the Blackpool gafa mentioned it today.
Different football. Different players. It is like a reset and people are missing what they once had. |  |
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| McAteer on 00:17 - Jan 11 with 620 views | SuperKieranMcKenna |
| McAteer on 23:25 - Jan 10 by Churchman |
I too think there is more there. I hope so. The reality is we paid a fee for him. That makes him haters target number whatever, but he’s up there. Muric? Not Hladky and a fat fee paid, pile in. One game: toast. Philogene - high fee, get the boot in hard and fast. Useless before he kicked a ball. Shame he ruined it by doing his own goal of the season, but he’d better carry on or he will be back on the list.
Basically, any fee paid, a player is a target. O’Shea and Greaves? Not Burgess and Woolfy. Boo. But please Burgess and Woolfenden, don’t ruin the narrative with two own goals and being taken to the cleaners.
Sadly, we are not a Newcastle or Sunderland. We don’t ‘do’ getting behind our team in the way they do. Not now. We prefer booing our best CF off, heckling our goalkeeper and giving people the treatment on social media. No wonder the manager, CEO comment on it.
So how does this relate to McAteer? A 23 year old at the time signed for a fee. So straight in the dog house. Is there much to his game? I’ve seen most of the home games live and more incl away games on tv. My view is I’m not sure. I’d just like to see the bloke given a chance. An unfashionable view? Yes, because in today’s world of entitlement, there’s no space for giving people a chance, sadly. |
“Sadly, we are not a Newcastle or Sunderland. We don’t ‘do’ getting behind our team in the way they do.”
Not sure they are different to any other set of football fans. Plenty of Sunderland fans were giving their players pelters the year we went up (including Jobe who was only getting into their team because of his surname apparently). Saw many of them wanting their ownership out that season as well after Bealegate and missing out on playoffs…now look at them.
Football fans are fickle whatever colours they where - it’s not a Town thing. I defy you to find any football forum which isn’t critical of players.
Maybe I’ve missed some threads but I don’t see it as ‘hate’ just fans saying he hasn’t been a good signing, which objectively he hasn’t at this point in time. I don’t think that’s a controversial view, on the face of it KM must think the same to an extent, given he’s apparently been fourth choice (behind Egeli, Burns and Clarke). |  | | |
| McAteer on 00:49 - Jan 11 with 563 views | Smoresy |
| McAteer on 23:22 - Jan 10 by SuffolkPunchFC |
I think it’s fair to say that the current management never entertain comments on speculation or provide details of undisclosed transfer agreements. They’ve been very consistent with this.
And why would you say I doubt TWTD’s reporting? It’s not unreasonable for them to report on something written by another media outlet (that’s how much of media reporting happens, didn’t you know?), and it was caveated with the common phase ‘it is understood’, which typically means that they can’t independently verify the information. So, if Ornstein was wrong, which several people have suggested, then all reporting based on his information is incorrect.
Maybe the figure is correct, but maybe it’s not. However it being accurate appears to suit some people’s agenda, and therefore is often used as the basis for criticism of McAteer. |
Ornstein reported as factual details of Sunderland's rejected bid last winter, which was a loan with obligation to buy on promotion, £8m guaranteed. That he broke the "£12m guaranteed over 3 years" details this summer too lends me to believe he has a well-placed, credible source. Our local journos reported £11.5m guaranteed instead, a few days afterwards, which suggests they sought details independently and sources corroborate one another, with close if not identical fee.
I would place greater faith in their findings personally than in the sources of Town fans several months later, when performances and squad position make favourable revised fee speculation. I hope the majority believe latest gossip though if the consequence is reduced scrutiny and criticism of the man. Much more constructive than the gossip that Szmodics could never play for the club again due to egregious behaviour. | | | |
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| McAteer on 00:54 - Jan 11 with 552 views | StNeotsBlue |
| McAteer on 00:30 - Jan 11 by SuffolkPunchFC |
Good response - the need for being facetious says it all. |
The broader point is we massively overpaid. When we were first linked the general consensus was for 3 or 4 million he'd be a handy squad addition. When we paid North of £11m, there was a collective wtf moment from both ours and Leicester supporters.
My above comment isn't intended as a criticism of Kasey, but Ashton, KMc or whoever responsible havn't covered themselves in glory with this one. |  | | |
| McAteer on 02:13 - Jan 11 with 471 views | TRUE_BLUE123 |
I honestly dont think his performance level has been too dissimilar to that of Egeli. Treated very differently by the fanbase though.
Ultimately im not sure Mcateer is that good but he puts himself about, should have 2/3 assist this season if our strikers should finish. |  |
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| McAteer on 02:47 - Jan 11 with 459 views | itfcsuth |
He’s at his best when he keeps his game simple, beats his man and delivers, flashes the ball across, which he has done, not just today but a couple of times throughout the season which hasn’t yielded the final touch.
He is quick, he is strong and he plays with a bit of personality and passion, has certainly showed more as time has gone on.
There are of courses times he just needs to show a little bit more composure and quality, think he has missed some big chances this season.
Some real strengths to work with, some things to work on. |  | | |
| McAteer on 03:13 - Jan 11 with 450 views | TownieRob |
Reading through this thread, my mind goes straight to James Anderson’s recent 'Roy Keane' moment about the England camp praising bowlers for their effort in running in and bowling in heat and tough conditions. That’s literally the job. Feels similar with McAteer being praised for 'hard work' off the ball. He’s not as bad as some make out, but he’s miles off being a top Championship player.
This signing still feels one of the strangest we’ve seen in a while, and that’s saying something given some of the recruitment we’ve had recently. | | | |
| McAteer on 03:47 - Jan 11 with 437 views | Wickets |
| McAteer on 20:51 - Jan 10 by _CliveBaker_ |
Assists is a bullshit metric. He’s created chances, some have deserved better finishing.
He’s also played the equivalent of 7 full games, he needs some time but he’s got the attributes to be effective in that role.
Not saying we don’t need to see more from him, we clearly do and that’s probably behind his lack of game time, there’s definitely a player in there though. I think people were down on him before he stepped on the pitch tbh. |
Yes he came on today and should have had as assist straight away . |  | | |
| McAteer on 07:55 - Jan 11 with 381 views | thorpedo |
I thought he was our only sub who played well when they came on. Got straight into the game - albeit against League One opponents. He obviously has been disappointing so far, but I do think there is a functional player in there., given time and the right system. |  |
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| McAteer on 08:01 - Jan 11 with 371 views | Blue_Heath |
He has pace yes but really needs something to happen i.e. an assist or preferably a goal. | |
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| McAteer on 10:28 - Jan 11 with 264 views | billlm |
| McAteer on 20:51 - Jan 10 by _CliveBaker_ |
Assists is a bullshit metric. He’s created chances, some have deserved better finishing.
He’s also played the equivalent of 7 full games, he needs some time but he’s got the attributes to be effective in that role.
Not saying we don’t need to see more from him, we clearly do and that’s probably behind his lack of game time, there’s definitely a player in there though. I think people were down on him before he stepped on the pitch tbh. |
Azon being the main culprit in making mcateer's stats look non existent,
He deserves better, |  | | |
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