| How to approach caravanists and camper w@nkers? 05:56 - Jan 19 with 3609 views | bluelagos |
Sat in a long line of car drivers stuck behind a caravan for 15 mins earlier doing at least 20 under the limit. Lovely twisties too.
When the caravanist eventually pulled over I didn't know whether to give him a thumbs up or some free advice on how to shake coffee beans.
Thoughts from the Twtd hive?
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| How to approach caravanists and camper van w@nkers (ancient VWs excepted) ? on 06:00 - Jan 19 with 2089 views | WeWereZombies |
We are utterly plagued by them for about nine months of the year on Skye, it's not just their useless driving (and they are legally obliged to pull over and let traffic pass in the Highlands yet they never do) but that they stock up elsewhere and hardly put any money into the local economy. Fair amount of littering is due to them as well. Tax them to the hilt. [Post edited 19 Jan 6:13]
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| How to approach caravanists and camper van w@nkers (ancient VWs excepted) ? on 06:44 - Jan 19 with 2009 views | Tonytown |
| How to approach caravanists and camper van w@nkers (ancient VWs excepted) ? on 06:00 - Jan 19 by WeWereZombies |
We are utterly plagued by them for about nine months of the year on Skye, it's not just their useless driving (and they are legally obliged to pull over and let traffic pass in the Highlands yet they never do) but that they stock up elsewhere and hardly put any money into the local economy. Fair amount of littering is due to them as well. Tax them to the hilt. [Post edited 19 Jan 6:13]
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As someone who has a campervan and I can only speak for me and my friends, that post is just lazy nonsense.
We travelled to Ulverston last year, then to the Tan Hill Inn, Hexham and then to Knockengorrach music festival (stopping over in Castle Douglas the night before) spending a fair chunk of money in all of those places.
Stocking up on food and drink tended to be from supermarkets in the towns, but we stopped to eat at smaller places, including a village tea room on the way to Hexham and had dinner and breakfast at a pub near to Castle Douglas the night before the festival and at another cafe close by on our way home.
We never leave any rubbish behind disposing of it in bins on the campsite in Hexham and at the festival.
There will always be vvankers who leave litter, but you’ll find that anywhere, people throwing rubbish out of cars.
There is a lack of bins generally in places such as laybys which exacerbates the litter problem.
You can’t travel for a couple of weeks without spending money in the places you visit, even if you are eating and drinking exclusively in your van which most people don’t do in my experience. |  | | |
| How to approach caravanists and camper w@nkers? on 07:15 - Jan 19 with 1891 views | BanksterDebtSlave |
Save your anger for the cyclists owning the road in front of them. |  |
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| How to approach caravanists and camper van w@nkers (ancient VWs excepted) ? on 07:17 - Jan 19 with 1888 views | WeWereZombies |
| How to approach caravanists and camper van w@nkers (ancient VWs excepted) ? on 06:44 - Jan 19 by Tonytown |
As someone who has a campervan and I can only speak for me and my friends, that post is just lazy nonsense.
We travelled to Ulverston last year, then to the Tan Hill Inn, Hexham and then to Knockengorrach music festival (stopping over in Castle Douglas the night before) spending a fair chunk of money in all of those places.
Stocking up on food and drink tended to be from supermarkets in the towns, but we stopped to eat at smaller places, including a village tea room on the way to Hexham and had dinner and breakfast at a pub near to Castle Douglas the night before the festival and at another cafe close by on our way home.
We never leave any rubbish behind disposing of it in bins on the campsite in Hexham and at the festival.
There will always be vvankers who leave litter, but you’ll find that anywhere, people throwing rubbish out of cars.
There is a lack of bins generally in places such as laybys which exacerbates the litter problem.
You can’t travel for a couple of weeks without spending money in the places you visit, even if you are eating and drinking exclusively in your van which most people don’t do in my experience. |
How dare you call my post lazy nonsense. You don't have to suffer damnable stupidity every time you drive out. Think before you post. Think before you travel.
That is all. | |
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| How to approach caravanists and camper w@nkers? on 07:22 - Jan 19 with 1885 views | NthQldITFC |
| How to approach caravanists and camper w@nkers? on 07:15 - Jan 19 by BanksterDebtSlave |
Save your anger for the cyclists owning the road in front of them. |
I often develop a reciprocal murderous hatred of a handful of flabby, selfish, arrogant car drivers every time I ride. My hatred comes from direct threats to my life rather than a small delay to my oh-so-important itinerary though.
It soon passes though, so long as I have survived, or they haven't had to stop at a junction sooner than they hoped. |  |
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| How to approach caravanists and camper van w@nkers (ancient VWs excepted) ? on 07:41 - Jan 19 with 1804 views | Keno |
| How to approach caravanists and camper van w@nkers (ancient VWs excepted) ? on 07:17 - Jan 19 by WeWereZombies |
How dare you call my post lazy nonsense. You don't have to suffer damnable stupidity every time you drive out. Think before you post. Think before you travel.
That is all. |
lazy nonsense - would make a great username |  |
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| How to approach caravanists and camper van w@nkers (ancient VWs excepted) ? on 07:46 - Jan 19 with 1784 views | WeWereZombies |
| How to approach caravanists and camper van w@nkers (ancient VWs excepted) ? on 07:41 - Jan 19 by Keno |
lazy nonsense - would make a great username |
Thanks for trying to de-escalate. I shouldn't brand all camper vans with the blame for bad behaviour but when you suffer as the residents of the Highlands do from overtourism destroying the very things the tourists claim to have come to see it can be stressful. Believe it or not my posts are quite mild compared to the views of many. The silver lining is that both native Scots and incomers are united by a common enemy... | |
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| How to approach caravanists and camper w@nkers? on 07:58 - Jan 19 with 1757 views | bluelagos |
| How to approach caravanists and camper w@nkers? on 07:15 - Jan 19 by BanksterDebtSlave |
Save your anger for the cyclists owning the road in front of them. |
In the hierarchy of users, cyclists are near the peak, just behind Alfa drivers. Def info. | |
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| How to approach caravanists and camper w@nkers? on 08:00 - Jan 19 with 1748 views | Mookamoo |
Bet you drive an Audi
Its always an Audi |  | | |
| How to approach caravanists and camper w@nkers? on 08:02 - Jan 19 with 1733 views | bluelagos |
| How to approach caravanists and camper w@nkers? on 08:00 - Jan 19 by Mookamoo |
Bet you drive an Audi
Its always an Audi |
Lol. Got cut up by one the other day and had the same thought as it goes. | |
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| How to approach caravanists and camper w@nkers? on 08:56 - Jan 19 with 1580 views | bsw72 |
Patience is a virtue - not everyone has to go full speed in their lives, and not everyone knows the road - none of us know what is happening in the vehicle in front.
I am guessing that you are on a single lane country road, and travelling above 10pmh, therefore the limit will be one of 40mph, 50mph or 60mph - 70mph would be a dual carriage way.
The distance slowed over 15 mins will be constant across all speeds at 5 miles, therefore to make up that distance it would take approximately 7.5 minutes at 40mph, 6 minutes at 50mph, or 5 minutes at 60mph to make up the lost 5 miles by driving at the speed limit.
The delay is at worst 7.5 mins . . . |  | | |
| How to approach caravanists and camper van w@nkers (ancient VWs excepted) ? on 09:11 - Jan 19 with 1528 views | GlasgowBlue |
| How to approach caravanists and camper van w@nkers (ancient VWs excepted) ? on 06:44 - Jan 19 by Tonytown |
As someone who has a campervan and I can only speak for me and my friends, that post is just lazy nonsense.
We travelled to Ulverston last year, then to the Tan Hill Inn, Hexham and then to Knockengorrach music festival (stopping over in Castle Douglas the night before) spending a fair chunk of money in all of those places.
Stocking up on food and drink tended to be from supermarkets in the towns, but we stopped to eat at smaller places, including a village tea room on the way to Hexham and had dinner and breakfast at a pub near to Castle Douglas the night before the festival and at another cafe close by on our way home.
We never leave any rubbish behind disposing of it in bins on the campsite in Hexham and at the festival.
There will always be vvankers who leave litter, but you’ll find that anywhere, people throwing rubbish out of cars.
There is a lack of bins generally in places such as laybys which exacerbates the litter problem.
You can’t travel for a couple of weeks without spending money in the places you visit, even if you are eating and drinking exclusively in your van which most people don’t do in my experience. |
Yep. I took a camper van around the NC500 a couple of years ago. Used the local supermarkets in the towns we were visiting. Used the local pubs in the evening. Bought Gin and Whisky from local distilleries. And always disposed of litter in the correct manner. |  |
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| How to approach caravanists and camper w@nkers? on 09:12 - Jan 19 with 1530 views | bluelagos |
| How to approach caravanists and camper w@nkers? on 08:56 - Jan 19 by bsw72 |
Patience is a virtue - not everyone has to go full speed in their lives, and not everyone knows the road - none of us know what is happening in the vehicle in front.
I am guessing that you are on a single lane country road, and travelling above 10pmh, therefore the limit will be one of 40mph, 50mph or 60mph - 70mph would be a dual carriage way.
The distance slowed over 15 mins will be constant across all speeds at 5 miles, therefore to make up that distance it would take approximately 7.5 minutes at 40mph, 6 minutes at 50mph, or 5 minutes at 60mph to make up the lost 5 miles by driving at the speed limit.
The delay is at worst 7.5 mins . . . |
So you'd give the guy a thumbs up? | |
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| How to approach caravanists and camper van w@nkers (ancient VWs excepted) ? on 09:12 - Jan 19 with 1529 views | Tonytown |
| How to approach caravanists and camper van w@nkers (ancient VWs excepted) ? on 07:17 - Jan 19 by WeWereZombies |
How dare you call my post lazy nonsense. You don't have to suffer damnable stupidity every time you drive out. Think before you post. Think before you travel.
That is all. |
So you want tourism to provide jobs and to keep services going, but don’t want pesky tourists.
How’s does that work in reality? If there was no tourism many communities in places like Skye would slowly decline.
I suggest that you think before you post too.
My post was detailed and considered, but hey ban caravans, camper vans and motorhomes and see how that works out for your community and others in remote locations across the UK. [Post edited 19 Jan 9:17]
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| How to approach caravanists and camper van w@nkers (ancient VWs excepted) ? on 09:13 - Jan 19 with 1519 views | GlasgowBlue |
| How to approach caravanists and camper van w@nkers (ancient VWs excepted) ? on 07:17 - Jan 19 by WeWereZombies |
How dare you call my post lazy nonsense. You don't have to suffer damnable stupidity every time you drive out. Think before you post. Think before you travel.
That is all. |
I think TonyTown has just demonstrated that they are very thoughtful when they travel. | |
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| How to approach caravanists and camper w@nkers? on 09:16 - Jan 19 with 1508 views | bsw72 |
| How to approach caravanists and camper w@nkers? on 09:12 - Jan 19 by bluelagos |
So you'd give the guy a thumbs up? |
Yes - I would tahnk him - he is under no obligation to pull over, it is a gesture of kindness where he is acknowledging he is probably slowing people down and has tried to help. | | | |
| How to approach caravanists and camper w@nkers? on 09:17 - Jan 19 with 1507 views | Guthrum |
When you say 'lovely twisties', that rather implies that your wish to excitingly throw the bike around some corners has clashed with someone else's desire for a leisurely touring holiday.
Their turn today, it will be yours another time. Purely by chance you happened to be behind them, rather than ahead on the open road.
That same phrase probably also explains why Mr Caravan was going quite slowly, twisty roads are best handled with care when towing. |  |
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| How to approach caravanists and camper van w@nkers (ancient VWs excepted) ? on 09:18 - Jan 19 with 1494 views | bluelagos |
| How to approach caravanists and camper van w@nkers (ancient VWs excepted) ? on 09:12 - Jan 19 by Tonytown |
So you want tourism to provide jobs and to keep services going, but don’t want pesky tourists.
How’s does that work in reality? If there was no tourism many communities in places like Skye would slowly decline.
I suggest that you think before you post too.
My post was detailed and considered, but hey ban caravans, camper vans and motorhomes and see how that works out for your community and others in remote locations across the UK. [Post edited 19 Jan 9:17]
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They could encourage motorcyclists. Pay for hotels, always use restaurants and don't hold anyone up. What's not too like?
Cyclists too, although bit of an effort to get there :-)
As a slight tangent, the irony of the much marketed NC500 as a beautiful drive, when in reality you're simply sitting behind a line of slow moving campers is quite something. [Post edited 19 Jan 9:25]
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| How to approach caravanists and camper van w@nkers (ancient VWs excepted) ? on 09:20 - Jan 19 with 1472 views | GlasgowBlue |
| How to approach caravanists and camper van w@nkers (ancient VWs excepted) ? on 09:18 - Jan 19 by bluelagos |
They could encourage motorcyclists. Pay for hotels, always use restaurants and don't hold anyone up. What's not too like?
Cyclists too, although bit of an effort to get there :-)
As a slight tangent, the irony of the much marketed NC500 as a beautiful drive, when in reality you're simply sitting behind a line of slow moving campers is quite something. [Post edited 19 Jan 9:25]
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They do. Going back to my NC500 trip, there was a big mix of cyclists (usually with a van going ahead of them), bikers like yourself in big groups, camper vans and sports cars. | |
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| How to approach caravanists and camper w@nkers? on 09:23 - Jan 19 with 1455 views | bluelagos |
| How to approach caravanists and camper w@nkers? on 09:17 - Jan 19 by Guthrum |
When you say 'lovely twisties', that rather implies that your wish to excitingly throw the bike around some corners has clashed with someone else's desire for a leisurely touring holiday.
Their turn today, it will be yours another time. Purely by chance you happened to be behind them, rather than ahead on the open road.
That same phrase probably also explains why Mr Caravan was going quite slowly, twisty roads are best handled with care when towing. |
Defo a clash between those who wanted to make progress (some locals were far more agitated than me) and those who pootle around in a vehicle they clearly can't drive properly.
There is a simple solution, campers / caravanists limited to driving in the dark hours. A sort of apartheid for the roads.
(No, am not being totally serious) | |
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| How to approach caravanists and camper w@nkers? on 09:27 - Jan 19 with 1412 views | bsw72 |
| How to approach caravanists and camper w@nkers? on 09:23 - Jan 19 by bluelagos |
Defo a clash between those who wanted to make progress (some locals were far more agitated than me) and those who pootle around in a vehicle they clearly can't drive properly.
There is a simple solution, campers / caravanists limited to driving in the dark hours. A sort of apartheid for the roads.
(No, am not being totally serious) |
In the village we refer to a certain driver type locally as a classic "forties" driver and not because of age - they are the ones who on a 60pmh country lane do 40mph, but through villages with a 30mph or even in some cases 20mph limits, still maintain their 40mph speed. | | | |
| How to approach caravanists and camper w@nkers? on 09:30 - Jan 19 with 1391 views | bluelagos |
| How to approach caravanists and camper w@nkers? on 09:27 - Jan 19 by bsw72 |
In the village we refer to a certain driver type locally as a classic "forties" driver and not because of age - they are the ones who on a 60pmh country lane do 40mph, but through villages with a 30mph or even in some cases 20mph limits, still maintain their 40mph speed. |
My mate calls them "40 everywhere" drivers. | |
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| How to approach caravanists and camper van w@nkers (ancient VWs excepted) ? on 09:32 - Jan 19 with 1372 views | Tonytown |
| How to approach caravanists and camper van w@nkers (ancient VWs excepted) ? on 09:18 - Jan 19 by bluelagos |
They could encourage motorcyclists. Pay for hotels, always use restaurants and don't hold anyone up. What's not too like?
Cyclists too, although bit of an effort to get there :-)
As a slight tangent, the irony of the much marketed NC500 as a beautiful drive, when in reality you're simply sitting behind a line of slow moving campers is quite something. [Post edited 19 Jan 9:25]
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Campsites are businesses too you know and most have shops that sell everyday items that get bought by people who use them.
I know people stop over in pub car parks which means eating and drinking in them, helping to make them financially viable as a business too.
I’m sure it’s a pain having to drive a bit slower than you’d like, but that is the very definition of a first world problem.
Also most modern vans drive like cars, so it’s generally the older vans and caravans that are holding up traffic, but that’s the trade off of attracting visitors and the roads aren’t really designed for racing are they? [Post edited 19 Jan 9:35]
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| How to approach caravanists and camper w@nkers? on 09:51 - Jan 19 with 1287 views | leitrimblue |
Shoulda asked him for a qoute to tarmac yer drive  |  | | |
| How to approach caravanists and camper w@nkers? on 09:56 - Jan 19 with 1260 views | _CliveBaker_ |
Alright Jeremy Clarkson |  | | |
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