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Guffers prediction league 22:24 - Jan 21 with 674 viewsKeno

It must be time for that soon?

It’s got us promoted twice!!

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Guffers prediction league on 22:30 - Jan 21 with 649 viewsSitfcB

Never too soon seeing as we’d like the look of it right now.

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Guffers prediction league on 00:51 - Jan 22 with 529 viewsGuthrum

Yes, it's getting to about the time when it becomes viable.

Good Lord! Whatever is it?
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Guffers prediction league on 15:11 - Jan 22 with 418 viewsGavTWTD

https://theanalyst.com/competi

Their predicted table has us 2nd

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Guffers prediction league on 16:06 - Jan 22 with 379 viewshoppy

Guffers prediction league on 15:11 - Jan 22 by GavTWTD

https://theanalyst.com/competi

Their predicted table has us 2nd


How does the 'expected' table work - to have Leicester second bottom... are they taking into account an expected points deduction at some point?

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Guffers prediction league on 16:12 - Jan 22 with 368 viewsGavTWTD

Guffers prediction league on 16:06 - Jan 22 by hoppy

How does the 'expected' table work - to have Leicester second bottom... are they taking into account an expected points deduction at some point?


Yeah that doesn't make a lot of sense. Harsh on Hull too!

edit. Prediction at the start of the season I suppose

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Guffers prediction league on 16:13 - Jan 22 with 362 viewsJakeITFC

Guffers prediction league on 16:06 - Jan 22 by hoppy

How does the 'expected' table work - to have Leicester second bottom... are they taking into account an expected points deduction at some point?


It is based on the points they would have expected to earn based on their performances (expected goals for and against). Effectively saying they are pretty rubbish.
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Guffers prediction league on 16:13 - Jan 22 with 362 viewsKievthegreat

Guffers prediction league on 16:06 - Jan 22 by hoppy

How does the 'expected' table work - to have Leicester second bottom... are they taking into account an expected points deduction at some point?


Expected is based on xG and xGA and is a reflection on where their stats suggest they should be based on the games already played. Essentially Leicester have overperformed their xG and xGA and the 'average' team with those underlying stats would be 2nd bottom.
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Guffers prediction league on 16:17 - Jan 22 with 343 viewsKievthegreat

Guffers prediction league on 16:12 - Jan 22 by GavTWTD

Yeah that doesn't make a lot of sense. Harsh on Hull too!

edit. Prediction at the start of the season I suppose

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No, Hull are low because they've significantly outperformed their xG and xGA up to this point.
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Guffers prediction league on 16:20 - Jan 22 with 326 viewshoppy

Guffers prediction league on 16:13 - Jan 22 by Kievthegreat

Expected is based on xG and xGA and is a reflection on where their stats suggest they should be based on the games already played. Essentially Leicester have overperformed their xG and xGA and the 'average' team with those underlying stats would be 2nd bottom.


No, I think it's a case of me being an old dog, and this being a new trick - I still don't understand any of that, despite what I'm sure is a very good explanation of it.

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Guffers prediction league on 17:08 - Jan 22 with 274 viewsSaleAway

Guffers prediction league on 16:20 - Jan 22 by hoppy

No, I think it's a case of me being an old dog, and this being a new trick - I still don't understand any of that, despite what I'm sure is a very good explanation of it.


I found this on X - don't know how accurate it is, and if it is the same for all the expected models.

To understand its usefulness, it's helpful to understand how it is calculated.

In a basic approach, xPts is calculated by simulating each shot in a match.

For each shot, the model will generate a random number between 0 and 1. If the number is less than the value of the xG of that shot, it says it is a goal and adds to that game's simulation tally, and at the end compares the actual goal tallies.

If a team wins that simulated match they get 3 points, draw they get 1 point, and a loss they get zero.

Running that same simulation over many iterations (say 1000) gives the output of how often a team would have won, drawn, or lost, and then we can take the average of all the points they have accumulated in the simulations to get their expected points which will fall between 0 and 3.

Some more advanced models that are used will include things such as possession, who is taking the shot, and other factors as well.

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