| Handballs on 17:31 - Jan 31 with 1804 views | tonybied |
I thought Clarke getting hacked down before those was even more of a stonewaller than the first pen too! I did only get one look at it, though. |  | |  |
| Handballs on 17:34 - Jan 31 with 1746 views | Joey_Joe_Joe_Junior |
There’s no way we shouldn’t have been awarded at least one more pen but Kipre has to score as well. |  |
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| Handballs on 17:38 - Jan 31 with 1705 views | BABLUE |
| Handballs on 17:34 - Jan 31 by Joey_Joe_Joe_Junior |
There’s no way we shouldn’t have been awarded at least one more pen but Kipre has to score as well. |
Kipre missed 2 sitters as did Hirst, plus he somehow managed to miss the header in our box which led to their goal.
We play with no tempo and are so poor against a low block |  | | |
| Handballs on 17:40 - Jan 31 with 1672 views | Joey_Joe_Joe_Junior |
| Handballs on 17:38 - Jan 31 by BABLUE |
Kipre missed 2 sitters as did Hirst, plus he somehow managed to miss the header in our box which led to their goal.
We play with no tempo and are so poor against a low block |
At times it looked like we were waiting for them to reset. | |
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| Handballs on 17:44 - Jan 31 with 1623 views | berkstractorboy |
Not sure the double touch is BS, Mike Dean watching in Soccer Saturday studio thinks it was double touch and as he scored should be re-taken. |  | | |
| Handballs on 17:46 - Jan 31 with 1597 views | grow_our_own |
| Handballs on 17:38 - Jan 31 by BABLUE |
Kipre missed 2 sitters as did Hirst, plus he somehow managed to miss the header in our box which led to their goal.
We play with no tempo and are so poor against a low block |
Unlike Kipre to miss a header. Wonder how much he's been spooked by nearly receiving a broken neck courtesy of Femi Seriki's elbow last week. Not even a booking according to the wonderful Championship referees we've been blessed with lately. | | | |
| Handballs on 17:51 - Jan 31 with 1528 views | Herbivore |
| Handballs on 17:31 - Jan 31 by tonybied |
I thought Clarke getting hacked down before those was even more of a stonewaller than the first pen too! I did only get one look at it, though. |
Yep, he was shoved from behind very clearly. More of a pen than the one that was given, which was also a pen to be fair. Ref was genuinely clueless all game, one of the worst I've seen all season. |  |
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| Handballs (n/t) on 18:25 - Jan 31 with 1357 views | redrickstuhaart |
| Handballs on 17:44 - Jan 31 by berkstractorboy |
Not sure the double touch is BS, Mike Dean watching in Soccer Saturday studio thinks it was double touch and as he scored should be re-taken. |
Mike Dean, like most refs on telly, talks shyte.
I have seen several replays from different angles and absolutely no suggestion of a double hit.
As for the handballs, all hit from close range at speed. Into the body. Nothing stood out as being a real shout compared to the obvious foul on the edge of the box. But having dived for the first, ref was never going to give clarke a second in a few minutes. [Post edited 31 Jan 18:26]
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| Handballs on 20:29 - Jan 31 with 1129 views | Joey_Joe_Joe_Junior |
| Handballs on 17:31 - Jan 31 by tonybied |
I thought Clarke getting hacked down before those was even more of a stonewaller than the first pen too! I did only get one look at it, though. |
Forearm and push in the back with no attempt to play the ball, the player in front for him actually doesn’t really make any contact but it’s a clear foul from behind.
First handball is drilled from O’Shea second handball shout looks a Pen. [Post edited 31 Jan 20:30]
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| Handballs on 20:34 - Jan 31 with 1095 views | Joey_Joe_Joe_Junior |
| Handballs on 17:51 - Jan 31 by Herbivore |
Yep, he was shoved from behind very clearly. More of a pen than the one that was given, which was also a pen to be fair. Ref was genuinely clueless all game, one of the worst I've seen all season. |
First one looks quite soft, second looked nailed on. Either way we should have had surely 2 out of the 4 in injury time. Wasn’t there another big handball appeal before the scramble about 10 minutes earlier as well? They’ve survived 4 very decent appeals out of 5. | |
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| Handballs on 21:00 - Jan 31 with 999 views | ITFC_Forever |
| Handballs on 17:44 - Jan 31 by berkstractorboy |
Not sure the double touch is BS, Mike Dean watching in Soccer Saturday studio thinks it was double touch and as he scored should be re-taken. |
I’ve seen it back, and while Clarke’s standing foot slips and moves, I don’t think the ball touches it. |  |
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| Handballs on 21:02 - Jan 31 with 981 views | Joey_Joe_Joe_Junior |
| Handballs on 21:00 - Jan 31 by ITFC_Forever |
I’ve seen it back, and while Clarke’s standing foot slips and moves, I don’t think the ball touches it. |
Strangely I think it has a chance of being saved if he doesn’t slip. Didn’t see a trouble touch but all those protests probably helped them survive the other appeals. | |
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| Handballs on 21:34 - Jan 31 with 914 views | Simonds92 |
Foul on Clarke was pretty blatant, its one of those 'anywhere else on the pitch it's a free kick' ones which some referees in their infinite wisdom think are too soft to be a penalty, which is ridiculous, if it's a foul it's a foul. The second handball where Clarke plays the ball looks the most likely to be a handball given that the ball isn't struck hard. | | | |
| Handballs (n/t) on 21:39 - Jan 31 with 886 views | berkstractorboy |
| Handballs (n/t) on 18:25 - Jan 31 by redrickstuhaart |
Mike Dean, like most refs on telly, talks shyte.
I have seen several replays from different angles and absolutely no suggestion of a double hit.
As for the handballs, all hit from close range at speed. Into the body. Nothing stood out as being a real shout compared to the obvious foul on the edge of the box. But having dived for the first, ref was never going to give clarke a second in a few minutes. [Post edited 31 Jan 18:26]
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Well yes agreed, I have seen it back a few times and I am struggling to see 2 touches or any change in ball trajectory. I honestly thought it would be pretty obvious from Dean's reaction to it. | | | |
| Handballs on 21:51 - Jan 31 with 829 views | _CliveBaker_ |
| Handballs on 17:44 - Jan 31 by berkstractorboy |
Not sure the double touch is BS, Mike Dean watching in Soccer Saturday studio thinks it was double touch and as he scored should be re-taken. |
Would that be the conclusion, to re take it? Genuine question as I don’t know the answer, but why wouldn’t a double touch result in a free kick to them? |  | | |
| Handballs on 22:06 - Jan 31 with 770 views | gringoblue |
| Handballs on 21:51 - Jan 31 by _CliveBaker_ |
Would that be the conclusion, to re take it? Genuine question as I don’t know the answer, but why wouldn’t a double touch result in a free kick to them? |
Because the law changed last summer
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/fo
I was watching with the Preston commentary on. Was really frustrating that they insisted it was a double touch and that Preston should have been awarded an indirect free kick!
EDIT - sorry the law was 'clarified' rather than changed [Post edited 31 Jan 22:08]
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| Handballs on 22:28 - Jan 31 with 692 views | berkstractorboy |
| Handballs on 21:51 - Jan 31 by _CliveBaker_ |
Would that be the conclusion, to re take it? Genuine question as I don’t know the answer, but why wouldn’t a double touch result in a free kick to them? |
I was surprised, I thought it was a free-kick if there was 2 or more touches but as Deano said a re-take I assumed he knows what he's on about but I seen Gringo has confirmed there has been a rule clarification on this. | | | |
| Handballs on 22:34 - Jan 31 with 667 views | RayleighBlue |
| Handballs on 21:34 - Jan 31 by Simonds92 |
Foul on Clarke was pretty blatant, its one of those 'anywhere else on the pitch it's a free kick' ones which some referees in their infinite wisdom think are too soft to be a penalty, which is ridiculous, if it's a foul it's a foul. The second handball where Clarke plays the ball looks the most likely to be a handball given that the ball isn't struck hard. |
Especially considering the soft freekicks defenders get from the slightest touch in the back.
Exhibit A: That ridiculous one given by the corner of the Cobbold / SBR stand in the second half. | | | |
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