| What frustrates me most at the moment 21:00 - Jan 31 with 2136 views | _CliveBaker_ |
Is we don’t seem to be learning a lot. Might sound like a dig at McKenna, maybe it is, but there’s certainly no wavering here in terms of him being the man. But what’s frustrating to me is we’re seeing exactly the same issues over and over. I don’t think Cajuste is doing anywhere near enough in the middle, Egeli is completely ineffectual on the right week in week out, and we lack any sort of clinical centre forward. None of it is new news, it’s been the same story from day 1 of the season. Despite that Akpom’s started, what, 2 games in the 9? Why? We’re still giving Egeli the minutes he’s getting on the right, why?
It doesn’t make much sense to me. |  | | |  |
| What frustrates me most at the moment on 21:09 - Jan 31 with 1621 views | FrimleyBlue |
It's actually quite awkward to discuss the pitfalls of the season when in general most games we've created enough opportunities to win pretty much every fixture.
People point to where we are in the league, our run we've had, so it can't be bad
but there are many things just puzzling about the squad
I don't see what KM see's in
Cajuste starting
Taylor still being here Now the windows open
Egeli on the right
hirst
asking our defenders to be standing halfway inside the opponents half when we have the ball when we know they are looking to counter with one quick ball over the top
If mcateer has all this quality.. why on earth wasn't he even used today
where was neil?
The more i see egeli on the right it feels like it's an ashton requirement i really do, there seems to be no actual football logic for it to happen, his stats are woeful, the eye sight test doesn't change that either. For someone with such knowledge as KM this seems like a really really strange infatuation, similar to when he continued to play akpom in the 10 when it doesn;t work in our set up.
Many many things are right, but some really puzzling things too |  |
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| What frustrates me most at the moment on 21:09 - Jan 31 with 1613 views | RetroBlue |
Whats the problem or issue in calling out the manager. Because you are correct, its the same thing week after week. Whose fault is that? |  |
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| What frustrates me most at the moment on 21:12 - Jan 31 with 1578 views | Reuser_is_God |
| What frustrates me most at the moment on 21:09 - Jan 31 by FrimleyBlue |
It's actually quite awkward to discuss the pitfalls of the season when in general most games we've created enough opportunities to win pretty much every fixture.
People point to where we are in the league, our run we've had, so it can't be bad
but there are many things just puzzling about the squad
I don't see what KM see's in
Cajuste starting
Taylor still being here Now the windows open
Egeli on the right
hirst
asking our defenders to be standing halfway inside the opponents half when we have the ball when we know they are looking to counter with one quick ball over the top
If mcateer has all this quality.. why on earth wasn't he even used today
where was neil?
The more i see egeli on the right it feels like it's an ashton requirement i really do, there seems to be no actual football logic for it to happen, his stats are woeful, the eye sight test doesn't change that either. For someone with such knowledge as KM this seems like a really really strange infatuation, similar to when he continued to play akpom in the 10 when it doesn;t work in our set up.
Many many things are right, but some really puzzling things too |
“Egeli on the right is an Ashton requirement”
What on earth are you on about? [Post edited 31 Jan 21:12]
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| What frustrates me most at the moment on 21:12 - Jan 31 with 1554 views | billlm |
A dig with those issues is how I see it he's isn't a god so there warranted,
Me n u wouldn't do anything worse with these players that's for sure, |  | | |
| What frustrates me most at the moment on 21:15 - Jan 31 with 1504 views | FrimleyBlue |
| What frustrates me most at the moment on 21:12 - Jan 31 by Reuser_is_God |
“Egeli on the right is an Ashton requirement”
What on earth are you on about? [Post edited 31 Jan 21:12]
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'politics' | |
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| What frustrates me most at the moment on 21:15 - Jan 31 with 1503 views | billlm |
| What frustrates me most at the moment on 21:09 - Jan 31 by RetroBlue |
Whats the problem or issue in calling out the manager. Because you are correct, its the same thing week after week. Whose fault is that? |
Calling out McKenna here is taboo,
But I think it's warranted with the same issues after 4 years,
There's a lot right but a hell of a lot wrong to, | | | |
| What frustrates me most at the moment on 21:20 - Jan 31 with 1463 views | _CliveBaker_ |
| What frustrates me most at the moment on 21:09 - Jan 31 by FrimleyBlue |
It's actually quite awkward to discuss the pitfalls of the season when in general most games we've created enough opportunities to win pretty much every fixture.
People point to where we are in the league, our run we've had, so it can't be bad
but there are many things just puzzling about the squad
I don't see what KM see's in
Cajuste starting
Taylor still being here Now the windows open
Egeli on the right
hirst
asking our defenders to be standing halfway inside the opponents half when we have the ball when we know they are looking to counter with one quick ball over the top
If mcateer has all this quality.. why on earth wasn't he even used today
where was neil?
The more i see egeli on the right it feels like it's an ashton requirement i really do, there seems to be no actual football logic for it to happen, his stats are woeful, the eye sight test doesn't change that either. For someone with such knowledge as KM this seems like a really really strange infatuation, similar to when he continued to play akpom in the 10 when it doesn;t work in our set up.
Many many things are right, but some really puzzling things too |
I’m not sure there’s any evidence of that Egeli suggestion. If it was such why would soon to be out of contract 30 year old Burns be dropped straight back in ahead of him? Why would £12m McAteer be so far from getting minutes? We can speculate on weird conspiracy theories but there’s absolutely no evidence of it being the case. I’m sure McKenna is picking the team he thinks is best placed to win games.
That in itself does raise a different question though. Egeli is young, he’s adjusting to a new league and country and he needs time, that’s certainly true. I just don’t know why he’s getting the amount of minutes he is on the right either in the starts or bench appearances he’s getting when he’s contributing so very little. Such a vital position and such an ineffective option for us, very easy to play against, seems either incapable or reluctant to go on the outside, largely poor delivery when he does come in on his left. I just don’t get it at all. | | | |
| What frustrates me most at the moment on 21:25 - Jan 31 with 1411 views | _CliveBaker_ |
| What frustrates me most at the moment on 21:09 - Jan 31 by RetroBlue |
Whats the problem or issue in calling out the manager. Because you are correct, its the same thing week after week. Whose fault is that? |
I didn’t say there was, everyone is entitled to their opinion. Simply saying that’s not where my head is at, he has more than enough credit in the bank and body of work here to suggest to me he’s still the man. [Post edited 31 Jan 21:26]
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| What frustrates me most at the moment on 21:27 - Jan 31 with 1373 views | FrimleyBlue |
| What frustrates me most at the moment on 21:20 - Jan 31 by _CliveBaker_ |
I’m not sure there’s any evidence of that Egeli suggestion. If it was such why would soon to be out of contract 30 year old Burns be dropped straight back in ahead of him? Why would £12m McAteer be so far from getting minutes? We can speculate on weird conspiracy theories but there’s absolutely no evidence of it being the case. I’m sure McKenna is picking the team he thinks is best placed to win games.
That in itself does raise a different question though. Egeli is young, he’s adjusting to a new league and country and he needs time, that’s certainly true. I just don’t know why he’s getting the amount of minutes he is on the right either in the starts or bench appearances he’s getting when he’s contributing so very little. Such a vital position and such an ineffective option for us, very easy to play against, seems either incapable or reluctant to go on the outside, largely poor delivery when he does come in on his left. I just don’t get it at all. |
No i know it's unlikely, but im with you in not understanding the continued use of him. If we was improving you'd say fair enough, but imo hes got worse | |
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| What frustrates me most at the moment on 21:32 - Jan 31 with 1349 views | JakeITFC |
I think tbf we did need something different on the right today when the sub was made, cutting back in/shooting seemed a better option than just getting caught at the byline or crossing to nobody (but Walle Egeli didn’t really do the very well either). We didn’t use the right flank well enough at all tbh. |  | | |
| What frustrates me most at the moment on 21:42 - Jan 31 with 1300 views | homer_123 |
| What frustrates me most at the moment on 21:09 - Jan 31 by FrimleyBlue |
It's actually quite awkward to discuss the pitfalls of the season when in general most games we've created enough opportunities to win pretty much every fixture.
People point to where we are in the league, our run we've had, so it can't be bad
but there are many things just puzzling about the squad
I don't see what KM see's in
Cajuste starting
Taylor still being here Now the windows open
Egeli on the right
hirst
asking our defenders to be standing halfway inside the opponents half when we have the ball when we know they are looking to counter with one quick ball over the top
If mcateer has all this quality.. why on earth wasn't he even used today
where was neil?
The more i see egeli on the right it feels like it's an ashton requirement i really do, there seems to be no actual football logic for it to happen, his stats are woeful, the eye sight test doesn't change that either. For someone with such knowledge as KM this seems like a really really strange infatuation, similar to when he continued to play akpom in the 10 when it doesn;t work in our set up.
Many many things are right, but some really puzzling things too |
"...egeli on the right it feels like it's an ashton requirement i really do..."
Sorry Frimmers. Absolutely no evidence for that whatsoever. |  |
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| What frustrates me most at the moment on 21:45 - Jan 31 with 1275 views | homer_123 |
| What frustrates me most at the moment on 21:15 - Jan 31 by billlm |
Calling out McKenna here is taboo,
But I think it's warranted with the same issues after 4 years,
There's a lot right but a hell of a lot wrong to, |
"...hell of a lot wrong..."
I mean, we're currently fourth....game in hand.
Yes....we could be be better and ideally our recruitment could be sharper. But a he'll of a lot wrong? That seems overly harsh. | |
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| What frustrates me most at the moment on 21:46 - Jan 31 with 1266 views | TownieRob |
| What frustrates me most at the moment on 21:42 - Jan 31 by homer_123 |
"...egeli on the right it feels like it's an ashton requirement i really do..."
Sorry Frimmers. Absolutely no evidence for that whatsoever. |
I think Frimmers is saying out loud what many are thinking. Our 19yr old, bought for 18million is miles off being a top 3 Champ player.
There will 100% be the need to protect that purchase. |  | | |
| What frustrates me most at the moment on 21:48 - Jan 31 with 1248 views | SomethingBlue |
| What frustrates me most at the moment on 21:15 - Jan 31 by FrimleyBlue |
'politics' |
Think you need to know very well what you're talking about before you go throwing that around. | |
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| What frustrates me most at the moment on 21:48 - Jan 31 with 1247 views | homer_123 |
| What frustrates me most at the moment on 21:32 - Jan 31 by JakeITFC |
I think tbf we did need something different on the right today when the sub was made, cutting back in/shooting seemed a better option than just getting caught at the byline or crossing to nobody (but Walle Egeli didn’t really do the very well either). We didn’t use the right flank well enough at all tbh. |
I wouldn't say Burns was a whole lot better down the right.
Credit to Prestons left back who I thought was good. | |
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| What frustrates me most at the moment on 21:49 - Jan 31 with 1239 views | billlm |
| What frustrates me most at the moment on 21:45 - Jan 31 by homer_123 |
"...hell of a lot wrong..."
I mean, we're currently fourth....game in hand.
Yes....we could be be better and ideally our recruitment could be sharper. But a he'll of a lot wrong? That seems overly harsh. |
We were third game in hand,
He has no idea how to break a low block after 4 years,
If we win at Portsmouth il apologise,
Don't think il be doing that but you can call me out,
Then it will be 4th no game in hand, | | | |
| What frustrates me most at the moment on 21:51 - Jan 31 with 1212 views | homer_123 |
| What frustrates me most at the moment on 21:46 - Jan 31 by TownieRob |
I think Frimmers is saying out loud what many are thinking. Our 19yr old, bought for 18million is miles off being a top 3 Champ player.
There will 100% be the need to protect that purchase. |
19yr foreign player needing to adjust to the rigours of the Championship...shocker.
There has never ever been any indication that Ashton is involved in that kind of way. | |
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| What frustrates me most at the moment on 21:51 - Jan 31 with 1214 views | JakeITFC |
| What frustrates me most at the moment on 21:48 - Jan 31 by homer_123 |
I wouldn't say Burns was a whole lot better down the right.
Credit to Prestons left back who I thought was good. |
Yeah and Preston did the same thing as Wrexham of just letting us give Furlong as much space as he wants because he is unlikely to hurt us, packed the middle and basically allowed crosses to come in as that’s what they want.
Walle Egeli was therefore a positive sub in that it gave us the potential for something different than keeping Burns on or opting for McAteer. Unfortunately he looks a young man who is a little short of confidence and has looked a bit lost the last couple of games. | | | |
| What frustrates me most at the moment on 21:55 - Jan 31 with 1153 views | MattinLondon |
| What frustrates me most at the moment on 21:09 - Jan 31 by FrimleyBlue |
It's actually quite awkward to discuss the pitfalls of the season when in general most games we've created enough opportunities to win pretty much every fixture.
People point to where we are in the league, our run we've had, so it can't be bad
but there are many things just puzzling about the squad
I don't see what KM see's in
Cajuste starting
Taylor still being here Now the windows open
Egeli on the right
hirst
asking our defenders to be standing halfway inside the opponents half when we have the ball when we know they are looking to counter with one quick ball over the top
If mcateer has all this quality.. why on earth wasn't he even used today
where was neil?
The more i see egeli on the right it feels like it's an ashton requirement i really do, there seems to be no actual football logic for it to happen, his stats are woeful, the eye sight test doesn't change that either. For someone with such knowledge as KM this seems like a really really strange infatuation, similar to when he continued to play akpom in the 10 when it doesn;t work in our set up.
Many many things are right, but some really puzzling things too |
Whereas I have concerns regarding KM lack of flexibility the notion that he’s playing a player simply due to MA instruction is very wild. |  | | |
| What frustrates me most at the moment on 21:55 - Jan 31 with 1153 views | homer_123 |
| What frustrates me most at the moment on 21:49 - Jan 31 by billlm |
We were third game in hand,
He has no idea how to break a low block after 4 years,
If we win at Portsmouth il apologise,
Don't think il be doing that but you can call me out,
Then it will be 4th no game in hand, |
If it's that easy to breakdown a low block...why is it so readily used by teams?
We were not great today....but did we not create enough chances to win....even after going a goal down? Hirst x 2, Kipre, Mehmeti all spring to mind.
Most teams struggle when the opposition come and sit. Let you play out but the minute you get i to the 2nd or last 3rd deny time and space.
Could we be better? Yes, absolutely. But even today, where we were far from our best we created enough to win that. | |
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| What frustrates me most at the moment on 21:58 - Jan 31 with 1112 views | homer_123 |
| What frustrates me most at the moment on 21:51 - Jan 31 by JakeITFC |
Yeah and Preston did the same thing as Wrexham of just letting us give Furlong as much space as he wants because he is unlikely to hurt us, packed the middle and basically allowed crosses to come in as that’s what they want.
Walle Egeli was therefore a positive sub in that it gave us the potential for something different than keeping Burns on or opting for McAteer. Unfortunately he looks a young man who is a little short of confidence and has looked a bit lost the last couple of games. |
Yes....I'd agree. Playing within himself?
But he's 19....tough move and following Hutch as well. | |
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| What frustrates me most at the moment on 22:00 - Jan 31 with 1099 views | TownieRob |
| What frustrates me most at the moment on 21:51 - Jan 31 by homer_123 |
19yr foreign player needing to adjust to the rigours of the Championship...shocker.
There has never ever been any indication that Ashton is involved in that kind of way. |
The fee we paid is outrageously excessive. If you spend 18m quid on a player 18 or 45 years old then you expect an immediate return. You can't dress it up any other way.
Ashton signed this deal off. Read into that, what you will. | | | |
| What frustrates me most at the moment on 22:00 - Jan 31 with 1087 views | billlm |
| What frustrates me most at the moment on 21:55 - Jan 31 by homer_123 |
If it's that easy to breakdown a low block...why is it so readily used by teams?
We were not great today....but did we not create enough chances to win....even after going a goal down? Hirst x 2, Kipre, Mehmeti all spring to mind.
Most teams struggle when the opposition come and sit. Let you play out but the minute you get i to the 2nd or last 3rd deny time and space.
Could we be better? Yes, absolutely. But even today, where we were far from our best we created enough to win that. |
Not disagreeing but taking off burns who was getting behind for eglie come on he goes in easy to defend against or back, mcateer was the replacement today all day long wrong by McKenna, | | | |
| What frustrates me most at the moment on 22:03 - Jan 31 with 1067 views | bsw72 |
| What frustrates me most at the moment on 21:49 - Jan 31 by billlm |
We were third game in hand,
He has no idea how to break a low block after 4 years,
If we win at Portsmouth il apologise,
Don't think il be doing that but you can call me out,
Then it will be 4th no game in hand, |
No idea to break a deep defence? (low block is a such modern buzzword boll0x term)
In majority of games this season we have created enough chances to win, but the finishing has not been good enough, even today we had 3-4 clear cut chances before the penalty. McKenna is a long way from perfect and is still learning but to say he has no idea to break these sides down when the team clearly has broken the low defensive line but a single player has failed to convert the chance suggests that your statement is simply factually incorrect. |  | | |
| What frustrates me most at the moment on 22:10 - Jan 31 with 990 views | bsw72 |
| What frustrates me most at the moment on 22:00 - Jan 31 by TownieRob |
The fee we paid is outrageously excessive. If you spend 18m quid on a player 18 or 45 years old then you expect an immediate return. You can't dress it up any other way.
Ashton signed this deal off. Read into that, what you will. |
Well, says more about you than those that signed him if that’s your view. When he signed. McKenna acknowledged Egeli's potential at 19, recognizing that physical development will be a key challenge in the division and emphasizing the importance of balancing patience with encouragement and opportunities for the player. He wasn’t expecting immediate returns . . . | | | |
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