| No subject 21:25 - Feb 21 with 1640 views | AndyHigginson |
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| O'Shea on 21:29 - Feb 21 with 1579 views | redrickstuhaart |
This may be trolling, but I agree with the gist of it. | |
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| O'Shea on 21:32 - Feb 21 with 1535 views | J2BLUE |
His stats are very much in line with our other centre backs. |  |
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| O'Shea on 21:33 - Feb 21 with 1523 views | FrimleyBlue |
Interesting insights into posts today
Many regulars who love to use the word scapegoat have felt happy to dive into oshea today. Some even saying theyve felt it all season. Yet if you speak of other players its scapegoating.. why? Its not osheas fault he replaced wolfy. And not his fault he took over the armband from morsy. Its also not his fault his manager hasnt allowed him to concentrate on being a cb only this season and having to become our main ball distributor.
I also add too. That despite how poor his apparently been
He is part of the backline that upto today had the least xga in the league. The 2nd lowest number of goals conceded.
But having said that. He may have been shite today. It happens. |  |
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| O'Shea on 21:35 - Feb 21 with 1513 views | redrickstuhaart |
| O'Shea on 21:32 - Feb 21 by J2BLUE |
His stats are very much in line with our other centre backs. |
2 relegations?
Having just watched the highlights, frossly culpable for the first. Stands off slows down, waves his arm around rather than pressuring the ball. Then I think its the 3rd or 4th, backs off backs off and then... oh dear. 2nd, is perhaps unfortunate. Difficult to sort your feet out.
But he is not the player he is vaunted as being. | |
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| O'Shea on 21:37 - Feb 21 with 1481 views | J2BLUE |
| O'Shea on 21:35 - Feb 21 by redrickstuhaart |
2 relegations?
Having just watched the highlights, frossly culpable for the first. Stands off slows down, waves his arm around rather than pressuring the ball. Then I think its the 3rd or 4th, backs off backs off and then... oh dear. 2nd, is perhaps unfortunate. Difficult to sort your feet out.
But he is not the player he is vaunted as being. |
From the Premier League. Not the Dog and Duck Sunday 5-a-side league.
He is one player. He has played every minute for the second best defensive team in the league. | |
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| O'Shea on 21:41 - Feb 21 with 1394 views | Bigalhunter |
| O'Shea on 21:29 - Feb 21 by redrickstuhaart |
This may be trolling, but I agree with the gist of it. |
We had a thread started only this week telling us that O’Shea was a proper captain.
I guess it depends on whether you think your club captain should be judged mainly on his off-field activity, because I just don’t see what he offers in terms of leadership or example-setting on the pitch. |  |
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| O'Shea on 21:46 - Feb 21 with 1349 views | LeoMuff |
| O'Shea on 21:41 - Feb 21 by Bigalhunter |
We had a thread started only this week telling us that O’Shea was a proper captain.
I guess it depends on whether you think your club captain should be judged mainly on his off-field activity, because I just don’t see what he offers in terms of leadership or example-setting on the pitch. |
Can you really tell if a player isn’t a good captain unless you are part of the squad ? The other players need to take personal responsibility as well, they are at the top of their profession nearly and should not need to be motivated or told their not doing x. |  |
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| O'Shea on 22:03 - Feb 21 with 1271 views | Bigalhunter |
| O'Shea on 21:37 - Feb 21 by J2BLUE |
From the Premier League. Not the Dog and Duck Sunday 5-a-side league.
He is one player. He has played every minute for the second best defensive team in the league. |
First off, it’s the third best defensive record as Stoke and Middlesbrough have conceded less despite having played x2 games more. Petty but true.
Secondly, I’d argue that we have a reasonable defensive record in the division despite, rather than because O’Shea’s a permanent fixture on the pitch.
A decent upgrade on him, Walton and Palmer along with a striker worthy of the name would have had us comfortably in the automatic places at his stage of a remarkably ugly and low-quality Championship season. | |
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| O'Shea on 22:21 - Feb 21 with 1199 views | Nthsuffolkblue |
Promoted to the Premier League in his first ever season as a pro with West Brom aged 20.
Relegated the following season and became a regular in the Championship with them.
Joined Burnley in the Premier League and relegated with them.
Left Burnley to join us and got relegated from the Premier League with us.
Not yet played a full season in the Championship since being relegated from the Premier League for the second time in his career.
I am not sure that entirely matches the OP description. It possibly suggests he is good enough to play in Championship winning sides but isn't yet a solid Premier League defender. I think it more says that defending is often about how a unit operates rather than simply individuals. |  |
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| O'Shea on 22:23 - Feb 21 with 1193 views | lazyblue |
He is a far better defender than Luke Chambers ever was but doesn’t do the fist pumps so that probably means he isn’t as good in most fans opinion. | | | |
| O'Shea on 22:40 - Feb 21 with 1118 views | Cafe_Newman |
| O'Shea on 21:41 - Feb 21 by Bigalhunter |
We had a thread started only this week telling us that O’Shea was a proper captain.
I guess it depends on whether you think your club captain should be judged mainly on his off-field activity, because I just don’t see what he offers in terms of leadership or example-setting on the pitch. |
I suspect the "Proper Captain" thread earlier this week was less about Dara and his off-field work and more about the previous incumbent's online support for the people of Palestine. Regardless of the specifics, your point about a captain's off-field activities stands. |  | | |
| O'Shea on 22:55 - Feb 21 with 991 views | redrickstuhaart |
| O'Shea on 22:23 - Feb 21 by lazyblue |
He is a far better defender than Luke Chambers ever was but doesn’t do the fist pumps so that probably means he isn’t as good in most fans opinion. |
I never rated him either tbh.
The first goal today was just unforgiveable.
No effort or determination to get close and make a difference. Slows down and points at others rather than defending like he means it. Was embarrassingly passive. | |
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| O'Shea on 23:41 - Feb 21 with 909 views | Bigalhunter |
| O'Shea on 22:40 - Feb 21 by Cafe_Newman |
I suspect the "Proper Captain" thread earlier this week was less about Dara and his off-field work and more about the previous incumbent's online support for the people of Palestine. Regardless of the specifics, your point about a captain's off-field activities stands. |
Indeed, although the Palestine issue didn’t require manipulation because Sam Morsy had conveniently blotted his copybook with the rainbow armband as well.
Sometimes, I guess the usual suspect has to weigh up which option affords the best chance of harvesting that vital oxygen of approbation, whilst furthering the legacy of largely futile point-scoring on a provincial football forum… [Post edited 22 Feb 0:17]
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| O'Shea on 00:44 - Feb 22 with 816 views | Bigalhunter |
| O'Shea on 21:46 - Feb 21 by LeoMuff |
Can you really tell if a player isn’t a good captain unless you are part of the squad ? The other players need to take personal responsibility as well, they are at the top of their profession nearly and should not need to be motivated or told their not doing x. |
A good captain will constantly be reminding the team of their roles and responsibilities whilst leading by example on the pitch by being completely confident in their role.
O’Shea fulfils neither of those requirements because he isn’t vocal and isn’t particularly competent at the basics of his role.
Hard to bol**ck your teammates with any credible authority when you’re dropping more bol**cks than them in the system you’re supposedly on board with.
Not really his fault, KM decided he was captain material and the best candidate for some reason. [Post edited 22 Feb 0:48]
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| O'Shea on 05:48 - Feb 22 with 715 views | Benters |
| O'Shea on 00:44 - Feb 22 by Bigalhunter |
A good captain will constantly be reminding the team of their roles and responsibilities whilst leading by example on the pitch by being completely confident in their role.
O’Shea fulfils neither of those requirements because he isn’t vocal and isn’t particularly competent at the basics of his role.
Hard to bol**ck your teammates with any credible authority when you’re dropping more bol**cks than them in the system you’re supposedly on board with.
Not really his fault, KM decided he was captain material and the best candidate for some reason. [Post edited 22 Feb 0:48]
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KM made Hirst Captain for the cup game last week and look how well that went. |  |
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| O'Shea on 10:11 - Feb 22 with 499 views | Garv |
| O'Shea on 00:44 - Feb 22 by Bigalhunter |
A good captain will constantly be reminding the team of their roles and responsibilities whilst leading by example on the pitch by being completely confident in their role.
O’Shea fulfils neither of those requirements because he isn’t vocal and isn’t particularly competent at the basics of his role.
Hard to bol**ck your teammates with any credible authority when you’re dropping more bol**cks than them in the system you’re supposedly on board with.
Not really his fault, KM decided he was captain material and the best candidate for some reason. [Post edited 22 Feb 0:48]
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How have you come to the conclusion that O'Shea is not vocal? |  |
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| O'Shea on 10:15 - Feb 22 with 462 views | redrickstuhaart |
| O'Shea on 10:11 - Feb 22 by Garv |
How have you come to the conclusion that O'Shea is not vocal? |
Pointing at people whilst doing feck all about an experienced but slow striker striding towards the goal, is not "vocal". | |
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| O'Shea on 10:19 - Feb 22 with 446 views | ArnoldMoorhen |
| O'Shea on 21:41 - Feb 21 by Bigalhunter |
We had a thread started only this week telling us that O’Shea was a proper captain.
I guess it depends on whether you think your club captain should be judged mainly on his off-field activity, because I just don’t see what he offers in terms of leadership or example-setting on the pitch. |
That thread was about his off field work, rather than his role as Captain on the field. | | | |
| O'Shea on 12:30 - Feb 23 with 275 views | Garv |
| O'Shea on 10:15 - Feb 22 by redrickstuhaart |
Pointing at people whilst doing feck all about an experienced but slow striker striding towards the goal, is not "vocal". |
Forgive me for not thinking that's conclusive. | |
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