| Russians killing their own on 10:17 - Feb 24 with 1153 views | SuperKieranMcKenna |
Stalingrad all over again!
And still people buy the Russian kool-aid. |  | |  |
| Russians killing their own on 10:39 - Feb 24 with 1051 views | Steve_M |
A long established Soviet tactic, and probably under the Tsars before that. A country that has considered human life cheap for too much of it's history.
Is there a limit to how many poor young men from remote rural towns can be bribed to waste their lives for Putin whilst their richer compatriots in Moscow and St Petersburg carry on broadly as normal? |  |
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| Russians killing their own on 11:19 - Feb 24 with 950 views | Guthrum |
| Russians killing their own on 10:39 - Feb 24 by Steve_M |
A long established Soviet tactic, and probably under the Tsars before that. A country that has considered human life cheap for too much of it's history.
Is there a limit to how many poor young men from remote rural towns can be bribed to waste their lives for Putin whilst their richer compatriots in Moscow and St Petersburg carry on broadly as normal? |
They are possibly reaching the limits of who they can get from non-metroplitan sources. Hence scraping the barrel with prisoners, hoodwinking young men from Africa and Asia, plus borrowing North Koreans. There has already been significant unrest in some of the regions due to the disproportionate casualty figures. |  |
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| Russians killing their own on 11:23 - Feb 24 with 932 views | LeoMuff |
| Russians killing their own on 11:19 - Feb 24 by Guthrum |
They are possibly reaching the limits of who they can get from non-metroplitan sources. Hence scraping the barrel with prisoners, hoodwinking young men from Africa and Asia, plus borrowing North Koreans. There has already been significant unrest in some of the regions due to the disproportionate casualty figures. |
Definitely feels like a shift towards Ukraine being in a better position than a few months ago with the limits on starlink, new sanctions, pressure on India
I find it amazing we are still putting new sanctions on Russia, you would think all possible sanctions had been in place for some time |  |
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| Russians killing their own on 11:57 - Feb 24 with 836 views | OldFart71 |
According to a person in the know about Russia's losses he said it was running at 30,000 a week killed or seriously injured and that they were having difficulties replacing them. Added to that it was also said, although not confirmed that Ukraine had recaptured some of the land lost.
In view of the fact that Trump seems mainly to believe what Putin says it is imperative that the West continue to supply Ukraine. But Europe is fractured with many countries not prepared to do their part.
Labour it has been said are shovelling other costs on to the defence budget to make it look like they are spending more of GDP on defence.
Military hierarchy have been saying for years that defence spending need to be vastly increased as such thing as our army down from 120,000 to 70,000. Ships with not enough crew to sail them. It was the same situation come WW2 where what we had was very inadequate. Any conflict now would be totally different but we are still inadequately prepared. Even going back to the Falklands when I would say we had more we were not according to reports that far off losing. | | | |
| Russians killing their own on 12:00 - Feb 24 with 831 views | squiz |
| Russians killing their own on 11:23 - Feb 24 by LeoMuff |
Definitely feels like a shift towards Ukraine being in a better position than a few months ago with the limits on starlink, new sanctions, pressure on India
I find it amazing we are still putting new sanctions on Russia, you would think all possible sanctions had been in place for some time |
Yeah that always baffles me. The strongest possible sanctions against Russia should have been in place years ago (2014 even) |  | | |
| Russians killing their own on 12:10 - Feb 24 with 791 views | CoachRob |
| Russians killing their own on 12:00 - Feb 24 by squiz |
Yeah that always baffles me. The strongest possible sanctions against Russia should have been in place years ago (2014 even) |
The City was doing very nicely out of Londongrad so the Kremlin-backed oligarchs were welcomed with golden visas. Putin has always been a monster, but it all just got overlooked. |  | | |
| Russians killing their own on 12:15 - Feb 24 with 779 views | DJR |
As an aside, my mother was deeply concerned for the safety of Clive Myrie who was in Kyiv when the war broke out.
She was particularly fond of him, and it is an abiding memory of the war for me because she died just a few days later on 2 March 2022, after a very short illness. [Post edited 24 Feb 12:15]
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| Russians killing their own on 12:21 - Feb 24 with 743 views | DJR |
| Russians killing their own on 12:10 - Feb 24 by CoachRob |
The City was doing very nicely out of Londongrad so the Kremlin-backed oligarchs were welcomed with golden visas. Putin has always been a monster, but it all just got overlooked. |
I posted this a while ago from an article by Peter Oborne in 2022.
"Let’s now try a thought experiment.
Let’s imagine that Corbyn had somehow won the last election. That he had then filled up Labour Party coffers with Russian money; that his party chairman had an office in Moscow to advise oligarchs; that Corbyn personally had repeatedly visited a Russian oligarch whose father had been a KGB agent and close friend of Putin, and that he had been reported to have ignored security service objections to secure this friend a peerage, and funnelled government money towards his paper.
For day after day there would have been front-page denunciations of Corbyn. He couldn’t have survived. In my view rightly so. Yet Johnson is the one who’s done all of these things. But Corbyn is the one who’s supposed to be pro-Putin." [Post edited 24 Feb 12:22]
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| Russians killing their own on 12:31 - Feb 24 with 686 views | Blueschev |
| Russians killing their own on 12:21 - Feb 24 by DJR |
I posted this a while ago from an article by Peter Oborne in 2022.
"Let’s now try a thought experiment.
Let’s imagine that Corbyn had somehow won the last election. That he had then filled up Labour Party coffers with Russian money; that his party chairman had an office in Moscow to advise oligarchs; that Corbyn personally had repeatedly visited a Russian oligarch whose father had been a KGB agent and close friend of Putin, and that he had been reported to have ignored security service objections to secure this friend a peerage, and funnelled government money towards his paper.
For day after day there would have been front-page denunciations of Corbyn. He couldn’t have survived. In my view rightly so. Yet Johnson is the one who’s done all of these things. But Corbyn is the one who’s supposed to be pro-Putin." [Post edited 24 Feb 12:22]
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Corbyn has a hat similar to one worn by Lenin, so clearly he was and remains pro-Putin. |  | | |
| Russians killing their own on 12:41 - Feb 24 with 599 views | GlasgowBlue |
| Russians killing their own on 12:31 - Feb 24 by Blueschev |
Corbyn has a hat similar to one worn by Lenin, so clearly he was and remains pro-Putin. |
Well he is on record as saying he would not have armed Ukraine. |  |
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| Russians killing their own on 12:41 - Feb 24 with 603 views | IP1Blue |
I’m very much on Ukraines side in this war but I must say that BBC homepage today is very much a planned propaganda campaign.
I’m not sure they are really in much disarray, to be honest, ultimately they will end up getting to keep the land they have stolen as if they give it up, that would make them look very stupid. Either with this so called Trump peace deal which gives the land to Russia or even if there is no deal, unofficially the land will be under Russian control whether it is internationally recognised or not unfortunately e.g. Crimea since 2014.
Ultimately Ukraine don’t have the military power to be able to reclaim the land back which is what it comes down to and if we’re being honest never will. It’s not right but unless there is some sort of regime change in Russia and the government does a complete U Turn, it will remain ultimately in Russian Territory especially with China’s backing. | | | |
| Russians killing their own on 12:46 - Feb 24 with 547 views | DJR |
| Russians killing their own on 12:31 - Feb 24 by Blueschev |
Corbyn has a hat similar to one worn by Lenin, so clearly he was and remains pro-Putin. |
You mean this one?
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/ne [Post edited 24 Feb 12:50]
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| Russians killing their own on 12:50 - Feb 24 with 514 views | BanksterDebtSlave |
| Russians killing their own on 12:39 - Feb 24 by GlasgowBlue |
Corbyn Derangement Syndrome.
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Says the man that completely lost his sh1t over Corbyn! |  |
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| Russians killing their own on 13:38 - Feb 24 with 291 views | BasingstokeBlue |
| Russians killing their own on 12:15 - Feb 24 by DJR |
As an aside, my mother was deeply concerned for the safety of Clive Myrie who was in Kyiv when the war broke out.
She was particularly fond of him, and it is an abiding memory of the war for me because she died just a few days later on 2 March 2022, after a very short illness. [Post edited 24 Feb 12:15]
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May she rest in peace. |  |
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| Russians killing their own on 13:45 - Feb 24 with 261 views | The_Flashing_Smile |
| Russians killing their own on 12:39 - Feb 24 by GlasgowBlue |
Corbyn Derangement Syndrome.
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The irony is strong in this one! |  |
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| Russians killing their own on 13:53 - Feb 24 with 242 views | GlasgowBlue |
| Russians killing their own on 13:50 - Feb 24 by vapour_trail |
It’s a staggering contribution to the thread, on multiple levels. |
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| Russians killing their own on 14:16 - Feb 24 with 187 views | Bent_double |
| Russians killing their own on 11:23 - Feb 24 by LeoMuff |
Definitely feels like a shift towards Ukraine being in a better position than a few months ago with the limits on starlink, new sanctions, pressure on India
I find it amazing we are still putting new sanctions on Russia, you would think all possible sanctions had been in place for some time |
It's possible - and I'm just guessing - that when sanctions are put in place, Russia then find ways around those sanctions to carry on doing business, so further sanctions are needed to close those routes, and so-on and so-on.
If it's not that, then yes, does seem a bit bizarre to not just hit them hard on day 1. |  |
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| Russians killing their own on 14:52 - Feb 24 with 139 views | SuperKieranMcKenna |
| Russians killing their own on 14:16 - Feb 24 by Bent_double |
It's possible - and I'm just guessing - that when sanctions are put in place, Russia then find ways around those sanctions to carry on doing business, so further sanctions are needed to close those routes, and so-on and so-on.
If it's not that, then yes, does seem a bit bizarre to not just hit them hard on day 1. |
There’s a lot of things like precious metals and minerals which are out of scope for sanctions due to scarcity. Russia has been using allied states as a back door to evade sanctions and import things from Europe. Kyrgyzstan Being a key state for this and the EU is discussing imposing sanctions on them too. | | | |
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