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Binary 22:50 - Feb 24 with 1357 viewsmrfixit426

So tonight has really made me realise how fractured society is at the moment, and how that impacts supporting a football club.

People are either right or wrong, happy clappers or bedwetters, positive trolls or negative trolls.

Life is shades of grey, not black and white. Why has social media pushed us into this tribal mentality?

I love my football club. I get frustrated when we lose, and I love it when we win. Neither outcome affects my life as a whole. I don't get angry, or feel the need to spit bile at players lacking confidence.

Why don't we as "supporters" of our club, just get behind these people and encourage them to do the best they possibly can for our club?

I've been going to games since the mid eighties. These times are amongst the best of times. Embrace it. If we stumble, it's not the end of the world. Ultimately, we all the want the same outcome. I said to my boy 2 years ago, "This isn't normal. Remember this."

Now it seems like everyone wants the "this isn't normal" all the time.

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Binary on 22:58 - Feb 24 with 1220 viewsCafe_Newman

Good lad. Thanks for demonstrating a sense of proportion.
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Binary on 23:11 - Feb 24 with 1121 viewsSwansea_Blue

It’s not just the binary nature of things imo. People also seem to have a lack of patience and poor resilience these days. Add it all together and it get so tiring with everyone worked up and flouncing off all the time.

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Binary on 23:49 - Feb 24 with 984 viewsGarv

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Binary on 23:57 - Feb 24 with 949 viewsSuperKieranMcKenna

It’s well reflected on here, lose and it’s wild takes like KM out (best Town manager in my time by a country mile). But equally gloating posts today like ‘haha told you bedwetters etc’. That’s divisive too, the truth is somewhere in the middle- we aren’t terrible, but we’ve not won the league either and turned out some poor results/performances.

Both ‘sides’ are as bad as each other.
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Binary on 08:28 - Feb 25 with 610 viewsChurchman

Binary on 23:57 - Feb 24 by SuperKieranMcKenna

It’s well reflected on here, lose and it’s wild takes like KM out (best Town manager in my time by a country mile). But equally gloating posts today like ‘haha told you bedwetters etc’. That’s divisive too, the truth is somewhere in the middle- we aren’t terrible, but we’ve not won the league either and turned out some poor results/performances.

Both ‘sides’ are as bad as each other.


I disagree. There is no equivalence between the dismals and what they’d term happy clappers.

When we lose or draw this forum is fast becoming unusable. The amount of vitriol, hate and stupidity spewed by the braindead is extraordinary. £200m wasted, Egeli useless, Hirst a waste of space, football better under McCarthy, hate the team, sack McKenna (plenty of those these days), wouldn’t be trusting Ashton with a penny going forwards - like it’s up to a keyboard warrior who hasn’t the faintest idea what he does to decide, O’Shea is a useless Captain, Greaves a waste of money. Etc etc.

If we win and play decently, you see a semblance balance and the forum becomes a more interesting place. Who knows, more objectivity shown when we don’t play well or get a poor result might lead more thoughtful analysis and interesting points instead of the figurative league table of hate and in some instances a desire to undermine players.

No, we are not terrible. We have some of the best players I’ve seen at this club in years. Neither are we the best team I’ve ever seen. In fact, we are a bit part team, very reminiscent of Cook/McKenna’s 2021/2 in terms of pattern of progression. Inconsistent.

Am I happy we are not running away with it as Leicester did two years ago? No. Collectively we should be stronger than we are. Have we made mistakes on and off the pitch? Of course. But those who make no mistakes in life are those that don’t do anything. But it’s not Private Fraser we’re doomed either. There’s lots of good things going on.

So my view has been let them get on with it. Offer definitive conclusions at the end of the season, good and bad. Be disappointed, annoyed and frustrated at losing, but not the spit flying rage shown by some.

Just because some of the more level headed might treat the imposters of triumph and disaster just the same (sorry for butchering your poem Kipling), doesn’t mean they care any less.
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Binary on 08:51 - Feb 25 with 535 viewsFrimleyBlue

Binary on 08:28 - Feb 25 by Churchman

I disagree. There is no equivalence between the dismals and what they’d term happy clappers.

When we lose or draw this forum is fast becoming unusable. The amount of vitriol, hate and stupidity spewed by the braindead is extraordinary. £200m wasted, Egeli useless, Hirst a waste of space, football better under McCarthy, hate the team, sack McKenna (plenty of those these days), wouldn’t be trusting Ashton with a penny going forwards - like it’s up to a keyboard warrior who hasn’t the faintest idea what he does to decide, O’Shea is a useless Captain, Greaves a waste of money. Etc etc.

If we win and play decently, you see a semblance balance and the forum becomes a more interesting place. Who knows, more objectivity shown when we don’t play well or get a poor result might lead more thoughtful analysis and interesting points instead of the figurative league table of hate and in some instances a desire to undermine players.

No, we are not terrible. We have some of the best players I’ve seen at this club in years. Neither are we the best team I’ve ever seen. In fact, we are a bit part team, very reminiscent of Cook/McKenna’s 2021/2 in terms of pattern of progression. Inconsistent.

Am I happy we are not running away with it as Leicester did two years ago? No. Collectively we should be stronger than we are. Have we made mistakes on and off the pitch? Of course. But those who make no mistakes in life are those that don’t do anything. But it’s not Private Fraser we’re doomed either. There’s lots of good things going on.

So my view has been let them get on with it. Offer definitive conclusions at the end of the season, good and bad. Be disappointed, annoyed and frustrated at losing, but not the spit flying rage shown by some.

Just because some of the more level headed might treat the imposters of triumph and disaster just the same (sorry for butchering your poem Kipling), doesn’t mean they care any less.
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Not quite church

We win and you get threads literally started towards the 'nappy crappers' over discussing the game of football.

You mention egeli for example and posts yesterday about ha take that egeli moaners etc. Yeah he scored but a balanced post imo would be more of great that he scored but is overall game wasnt the best.

However. There are some very obvious troll posts followed defeats. I think those ones are incredibly obvious yet people give those posts a lot of time on the forum where it probably would be better to let die out. The KM out posts for example.

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Binary on 08:57 - Feb 25 with 503 viewsBseaBlue

You are spot on. Mass division throughout the Country and reflected with our football club (and on here)

We are right in the hunt so time for everybody to come together and the point scoring nonsense to stop. I want to come on here after wins and hear about how good a certain player was etc, not for people to gloat about being right.
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Binary on 09:34 - Feb 25 with 409 viewsDJR

Reading the right wing media, I thought being non-binary was a bad thing.
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Binary on 09:41 - Feb 25 with 384 viewsBramidan

I actually think that society in general seemed to alter after Covid.
People seemed to be more demanding and certainly less tolerant.
It certainly shows no signs of improvement.
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Binary on 09:46 - Feb 25 with 369 viewsSwansea_Blue

Binary on 23:49 - Feb 24 by Garv

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Yep, I’d agree with that. Things seem to have got worse since Covid, but maybe that’s a false impression and/or just a coincidence. Whatever the reason the expectations seem sky high and the impatience when things don’t go well is off the charts.

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Binary on 10:02 - Feb 25 with 325 viewsbaxterbasics

Binary on 08:28 - Feb 25 by Churchman

I disagree. There is no equivalence between the dismals and what they’d term happy clappers.

When we lose or draw this forum is fast becoming unusable. The amount of vitriol, hate and stupidity spewed by the braindead is extraordinary. £200m wasted, Egeli useless, Hirst a waste of space, football better under McCarthy, hate the team, sack McKenna (plenty of those these days), wouldn’t be trusting Ashton with a penny going forwards - like it’s up to a keyboard warrior who hasn’t the faintest idea what he does to decide, O’Shea is a useless Captain, Greaves a waste of money. Etc etc.

If we win and play decently, you see a semblance balance and the forum becomes a more interesting place. Who knows, more objectivity shown when we don’t play well or get a poor result might lead more thoughtful analysis and interesting points instead of the figurative league table of hate and in some instances a desire to undermine players.

No, we are not terrible. We have some of the best players I’ve seen at this club in years. Neither are we the best team I’ve ever seen. In fact, we are a bit part team, very reminiscent of Cook/McKenna’s 2021/2 in terms of pattern of progression. Inconsistent.

Am I happy we are not running away with it as Leicester did two years ago? No. Collectively we should be stronger than we are. Have we made mistakes on and off the pitch? Of course. But those who make no mistakes in life are those that don’t do anything. But it’s not Private Fraser we’re doomed either. There’s lots of good things going on.

So my view has been let them get on with it. Offer definitive conclusions at the end of the season, good and bad. Be disappointed, annoyed and frustrated at losing, but not the spit flying rage shown by some.

Just because some of the more level headed might treat the imposters of triumph and disaster just the same (sorry for butchering your poem Kipling), doesn’t mean they care any less.
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There is a bit of reverse finger pointing when there's been a good result "where are the haters now?" and so on, yes. But I agree this place (more so the rest of ITFC related socials) is so much worse after a loss in comparison, which is perhaps natural. So I agree the two situations aren't quite equivalent. Just a little bit. Anyway, pretty sure the worst of the negative nelly's don't even log on when there's been a performance so the gloating is mostly going to waste.

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