| Just f*** off on 09:24 - Mar 8 with 1015 views | Guthrum |
After Trump showed himself so appreciative last time UK and other allied troops were fighting alongside their US colleagues ...
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| Just f*** off on 09:25 - Mar 8 with 1013 views | Meadowlark |
Why doesn't someone sensible just call him out? He comes out with this garbage and "everyone" hangs on his every word and tiptoes around the issues.
Netanyahu and Trump will go down in history alongside Hitler. |  | | |
| Just f*** off on 09:29 - Mar 8 with 986 views | vapour_trail |
| Just f*** off on 09:21 - Mar 8 by BlueNomad |
Can you explain the imperative for us joining the attacks by US and Israel? Over a week later Trump and his miserable crew can’t come up with anything coherent.
Trump wanted us to be like the sidekick of a bully, getting a few kicks in when the opponent is on the ground. |
Not just to you but to the previous three or four reasoned posts addressing the same question.
You’re talking into an abyss of ignorance. You will never get anything back.
It’s a waste of time. |  |
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| Just f*** off on 09:30 - Mar 8 with 973 views | BlueNomad |
| Just f*** off on 09:29 - Mar 8 by vapour_trail |
Not just to you but to the previous three or four reasoned posts addressing the same question.
You’re talking into an abyss of ignorance. You will never get anything back.
It’s a waste of time. |
I know but I had to say it. |  | | |
| Just f*** off on 09:33 - Mar 8 with 933 views | J2BLUE |
| Just f*** off on 06:14 - Mar 8 by Benters |
It’s an embarrassment what has happened to our navy to think we used to rule the waves.
Starmer is an awful PM.I bet Nige would have hired a pedal boat and gone out there 😂
Even Blair is moaning about Starmer not backing Trump from day one. [Post edited 8 Mar 6:52]
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I thought you Reform voters were supposed to be patriots and all for law and order?
Instead you're backing a foreign leader against our Prime Minister, where our leader has obeyed international law.
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| Just f*** off on 09:34 - Mar 8 with 924 views | LeoMuff |
| Just f*** off on 09:30 - Mar 8 by BlueNomad |
I know but I had to say it. |
If your knowledge of history concludes that the British empire made the world a better place, there isn’t much hope. |  |
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| Just f*** off on 09:46 - Mar 8 with 879 views | DJR |
| Just f*** off on 08:50 - Mar 8 by Benters |
I’m told old buh.
I would do a Home Guard sort of thing though.
It’s nice talking to you.
Fancy a pint someday ?  |
Your role would be to map the water butts in Tendring just in case there were an attack on the water supply facilities.  |  | | |
| Just f*** off on 10:02 - Mar 8 with 841 views | DJR |
If Kemi or Nige were in charge, we'd already be at war despite this not being something the vast majority of people support. | | | |
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| Just f*** off on 10:04 - Mar 8 with 816 views | Benters |
| Just f*** off on 09:46 - Mar 8 by DJR |
Your role would be to map the water butts in Tendring just in case there were an attack on the water supply facilities. |
Spot on buh. |  |
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| Just f*** off on 10:08 - Mar 8 with 826 views | Guthrum |
| Just f*** off on 09:25 - Mar 8 by Meadowlark |
Why doesn't someone sensible just call him out? He comes out with this garbage and "everyone" hangs on his every word and tiptoes around the issues.
Netanyahu and Trump will go down in history alongside Hitler. |
Because he's President of the USA, with the world's largest military and economic clout at his back and call. Calling him out directly is liable to hurt, one way or another.
The idea that standing up to bullies will make them desist is something of a fiction founded on the idea of having some mysterious equal or superior force to counter them with. Otherwise you just get beaten up and your belongings dumped in a puddle. Speaking as someone who was on the receiving end of some of that at school, I found the best tactics were passive resistance (ignore them, don't show distress and eventually they get bored) and gaining allies (individual bullies don't attack groups).
Similarly, Trump's verbal jibes should be water off a duck's back (he will have forgotten them by tomorrow, anyway) and countries should be banding together to look after their own collective interests, outside of purely the US sphere (not easy or quick, may be less lucrative, but more secure in the long term). | |
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| Just f*** off on 10:10 - Mar 8 with 808 views | tcblue |
| Just f*** off on 10:08 - Mar 8 by Guthrum |
Because he's President of the USA, with the world's largest military and economic clout at his back and call. Calling him out directly is liable to hurt, one way or another.
The idea that standing up to bullies will make them desist is something of a fiction founded on the idea of having some mysterious equal or superior force to counter them with. Otherwise you just get beaten up and your belongings dumped in a puddle. Speaking as someone who was on the receiving end of some of that at school, I found the best tactics were passive resistance (ignore them, don't show distress and eventually they get bored) and gaining allies (individual bullies don't attack groups).
Similarly, Trump's verbal jibes should be water off a duck's back (he will have forgotten them by tomorrow, anyway) and countries should be banding together to look after their own collective interests, outside of purely the US sphere (not easy or quick, may be less lucrative, but more secure in the long term). |
Genuinely thought the question was about calling Benters out |  | | |
| Just f*** off on 10:11 - Mar 8 with 804 views | DJR |
Badenoch doesn't come out of this well. She really is a lightweight.
Badenoch told the Conservative’s spring conference in Harrogate, North Yorkshire: “At a time when Britain needs strong and decisive leadership, we have a prime minister who is too afraid of making the wrong decision, too afraid to make any decision at all.
“Last week’s byelection has spooked the Labour party. They watched the Greens campaigning on sectarian voting lines. A tactic Labour used for many years is now being turned against them. And now Keir Starmer is too scared to make foreign interventions for fear of upsetting a tiny section of that electorate.”
In response, Carns, a former Royal Marine, said: “Trying to score cheap political points off the back of a serious security situation is deeply irresponsible. This situation is above politics and requires calm collective decision making – not hyperbole and soundbites.
“British troops are doing an amazing job and no one should be questioning their commitment or competency. Serious times require serious politics, not political point-scoring on the back of our armed forces, civil service or [Ministry of Defence] personnel who are doing an amazing job.” | | | |
| Just f*** off on 10:12 - Mar 8 with 802 views | Guthrum |
| Just f*** off on 10:02 - Mar 8 by DJR |
If Kemi or Nige were in charge, we'd already be at war despite this not being something the vast majority of people support. |
Not so sure about Badenoch. Her stance is largely just to oppose whatever Starmer does and to lean towards Reform in yearning for lost supporters.
Farage would have sold off the military to make tax cuts for the wealthy. | |
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| Just f*** off on 10:21 - Mar 8 with 779 views | J2BLUE |
| Just f*** off on 10:11 - Mar 8 by DJR |
Badenoch doesn't come out of this well. She really is a lightweight.
Badenoch told the Conservative’s spring conference in Harrogate, North Yorkshire: “At a time when Britain needs strong and decisive leadership, we have a prime minister who is too afraid of making the wrong decision, too afraid to make any decision at all.
“Last week’s byelection has spooked the Labour party. They watched the Greens campaigning on sectarian voting lines. A tactic Labour used for many years is now being turned against them. And now Keir Starmer is too scared to make foreign interventions for fear of upsetting a tiny section of that electorate.”
In response, Carns, a former Royal Marine, said: “Trying to score cheap political points off the back of a serious security situation is deeply irresponsible. This situation is above politics and requires calm collective decision making – not hyperbole and soundbites.
“British troops are doing an amazing job and no one should be questioning their commitment or competency. Serious times require serious politics, not political point-scoring on the back of our armed forces, civil service or [Ministry of Defence] personnel who are doing an amazing job.” |
Badenoch thinks she is much smarter than she is. Driven by delusional self confidence but has absolutely no substance.
Starmer is boring and not doing a great job domestically but overall he is the only leader I would trust to run the country. | |
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| Just f*** off on 10:21 - Mar 8 with 770 views | DJR |
| Just f*** off on 10:04 - Mar 8 by Benters |
Spot on buh. |
If it gets to that stage, bagsy I be Private Godfrey. | | | |
| Just f*** off on 10:22 - Mar 8 with 770 views | Guthrum |
| Just f*** off on 09:46 - Mar 8 by DJR |
Your role would be to map the water butts in Tendring just in case there were an attack on the water supply facilities. |
Interestingly, among my grandfather's papers, I came across official orders setting out plans for putting petrol stations out of action in the event of a German invasion during WWII, which included instructions for pouring concrete into the pipes.
He worked for Ipswich Corporation, in the depot and was air raid rescue (I also have his helmet), having fought in WWI. | |
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| Just f*** off on 10:32 - Mar 8 with 740 views | FoghornGleghorn |
| Just f*** off on 10:21 - Mar 8 by J2BLUE |
Badenoch thinks she is much smarter than she is. Driven by delusional self confidence but has absolutely no substance.
Starmer is boring and not doing a great job domestically but overall he is the only leader I would trust to run the country. |
She perfectly embodies what modern politics has become doesn't she? Nothing but attempted childish "gotcha" soundbites based on deliberately bad-faith interpretations and hypocrisy, and no diplomacy whatsoever. [Post edited 8 Mar 10:39]
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| Just f*** off on 10:40 - Mar 8 with 715 views | FromReuserWithLove |
| Just f*** off on 07:54 - Mar 8 by Benters |
One of your lot though innit. |
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| Just f*** off on 10:53 - Mar 8 with 681 views | Leaky |
| Just f*** off on 08:13 - Mar 8 by bsw72 |
“We used to rule the waves” is doing extraordinary work in that sentence, collapsing centuries of violent subjugation, resource theft and cultural erasure into something almost wistful. Almost sporty. As though Britannia was simply winning rather than systematically dismantling the self-determination of roughly a quarter of the world’s population. |
Didn't the Royal Navy help stop slavery from Africa |  | | |
| Just f*** off on 10:56 - Mar 8 with 678 views | carlo88 |
Apparently Farage has been in the US very recently sh*t stirring no doubt. It's all extremely fraught. |  | | |
| Just f*** off on 10:59 - Mar 8 with 669 views | tcblue |
| Just f*** off on 10:56 - Mar 8 by carlo88 |
Apparently Farage has been in the US very recently sh*t stirring no doubt. It's all extremely fraught. |
Just out there getting the best tariffs for the people of Clacton | | | |
| Just f*** off on 10:59 - Mar 8 with 667 views | DJR |
| Just f*** off on 10:32 - Mar 8 by FoghornGleghorn |
She perfectly embodies what modern politics has become doesn't she? Nothing but attempted childish "gotcha" soundbites based on deliberately bad-faith interpretations and hypocrisy, and no diplomacy whatsoever. [Post edited 8 Mar 10:39]
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But papers like the Express and Mail lap it up and amplify it.
https://www.express.co.uk/news
It may not be benefiting her per se as she is pretty hopeless, but it does play into the anti-Starmer and pro-Tory/Reform agenda which definitely influnce readers.
And don't forger that while people don't buy papers as they once did, many (like the elderly couple I saw on the bus the other day) will have the digital version of one of those papers on their phone. and/or be plugged into corresponding social media feeds. [Post edited 8 Mar 11:01]
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| Just f*** off on 11:03 - Mar 8 with 649 views | J2BLUE |
| Just f*** off on 10:59 - Mar 8 by DJR |
But papers like the Express and Mail lap it up and amplify it.
https://www.express.co.uk/news
It may not be benefiting her per se as she is pretty hopeless, but it does play into the anti-Starmer and pro-Tory/Reform agenda which definitely influnce readers.
And don't forger that while people don't buy papers as they once did, many (like the elderly couple I saw on the bus the other day) will have the digital version of one of those papers on their phone. and/or be plugged into corresponding social media feeds. [Post edited 8 Mar 11:01]
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Information moves too fast for printed newspapers.
I would never buy a newspaper these days when I can follow live coverage of breaking news on my phone.
I have noticed the same with non fiction books. Obviously some are timeless but others are outdated within a couple of months of being printed. | |
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| Just f*** off on 11:05 - Mar 8 with 647 views | The_Major |
I note Quisling Farage was doing his best Grima Wormtongue impression at Mar a Lago on Friday (I appreciate there may be a bar called Mar a Lago in Jaywick, but I'm assuming he was in Florida) - and within 24 hours the Fanta fuhrer comes out with this weapons grade tosh.
For a man who claims he has the pulse of the nation, Farage is tin eared on this, not to mention all the other fifth columnists who bleated on for years about sovereignty, but are now tubbyboohooing when we actually do exercise our sovereign right to decide what to do. The recent polling shows that support for the US action is around about the 20% mark, and the YouGov poll on Thursday had support for the UK joining in the bombing at only 8%.
If I had to guess, I think the public support is so low is because of the comments belittling our participation in Afghanistan, not to mention the Iraq shambles. Besides which, we're not sending both aircraft carriers anyway as HMS Queen Elizabeth is apparently in drydock in Rosyth!
Nobody is going to mourn the downfall of the Iranian regime. But it is possible to have two thoughts in your brain at the same time. Any action taken needs to have a plan, and needs to comply with law. Even if we did go in full throttle, you can guarantee that all the treacherous types screaming in the media we should be there will be throwing brickbats at Starmer when the first casualties come back. |  | | |
| Just f*** off on 11:17 - Mar 8 with 621 views | carlo88 |
The only good news I can see on the horizon is that Keir Starmer should outlast Trump, as long as the Labour party keep their nerve. If the World is still in one piece by then, things might have settled down and Farage will be a busted flush. | | | |
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