| Expectations, reality and normalcy 08:07 - Mar 22 with 1739 views | bsw72 | I think there is a peculiar distortion affecting how many supporters are currently assessing this season. The benchmark being applied, consciously or not, is drawn from the two most extraordinary consecutive seasons in the division’s modern history. In 2023-24, Leicester claimed the title on 97 points while we finished runners-up on 96. The following year, Leeds and Burnley both crossed the 100-point mark. These were not high-water marks. They were freakish anomalies that have no business serving as a baseline for what promotion requires. The historical reality is rather dull. Champions have lifted the trophy on as few as 87 points. A runners-up spot has been secured on 79. Across fifteen seasons, exceeding 95 points happened only 40% of the time at the summit. The current campaign, by contrast, looks entirely typical of a normal, competitive Championship year. That context was conspicuously absent when bookmakers installed Town as pre-season favourites and sections of the fanbase arrived in August declaring “100 points, 100 goals” as a realistic ambition. That was always magical thinking dressed up as expectation. What compounds the distortion is the sheer turbulence this club has absorbed since 2022. Back-to-back promotions, while extraordinary achievements, has brought profound disruption. Premier League infrastructure, staffing, scouting, medical provision and playing philosophy all had to be rebuilt almost instantly. Relegation then triggered another wave of upheaval, with significant player turnover as contracted Premier League talent departed and a largely new squad was assembled at considerable cost. A lot of supporters see that outlay and expect instant cohesion, but football has never worked that way. A collection of expensively acquired individuals is not a team. Shared understanding, tactical familiarity and the slow accumulation of trust between players cannot be purchased. The truth is that the club has not known anything resembling normalcy since 2022, and a settled, functional squad identity takes time to build. The 25-26 season is not underperformance. It is a club and new team still finding its feet. We just forgot what normal looks like. |  | | |  |
| Expectations, reality and normalcy on 16:06 - Mar 22 with 280 views | Joey_Joe_Joe_Junior |
| Expectations, reality and normalcy on 16:00 - Mar 22 by Nthsuffolkblue | How many of those teams had been in League 1 just 2 years earlier? How many teams receiving parachute payments did NOT get promoted in each of those seasons? From your own stats, in each of the last 5 seasons, a team without parachute payments got promoted despite at least 3 others (probably many more) receiving them. |
If you’re happy with us being in the 25-30% of parachute teams that haven’t taken advantage as compared to the 70% that have then fair enough, my expectations were greater. We have backed the manager and spent big for a parachute team, 200M big over multiple windows. We are underperforming in a weaker championship. Even sides that were dross in the PL went back up with far less spent, Burnley, Norwich, Blades etc. |  |
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| Expectations, reality and normalcy on 16:11 - Mar 22 with 256 views | Joey_Joe_Joe_Junior |
| Expectations, reality and normalcy on 16:03 - Mar 22 by Nthsuffolkblue | You are taking the best performance as normal and then claiming anything below the best performance as underperformance. Your explanations in your second and third paragraphs are the reasons why we are performing at least to par. |
No I’m not, I’ve literally done the opposite, I’m stating what the floor has been over the last decade. If you want to get into the best look at totals the last few years it would have taken. |  |
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| Expectations, reality and normalcy on 16:13 - Mar 22 with 251 views | waveneyblue |
| Expectations, reality and normalcy on 16:06 - Mar 22 by Joey_Joe_Joe_Junior | If you’re happy with us being in the 25-30% of parachute teams that haven’t taken advantage as compared to the 70% that have then fair enough, my expectations were greater. We have backed the manager and spent big for a parachute team, 200M big over multiple windows. We are underperforming in a weaker championship. Even sides that were dross in the PL went back up with far less spent, Burnley, Norwich, Blades etc. |
Its not about "being happy", its about understanding the situation. Appreciate you are going to die on the hill of crap league and under achievement, but theres a much much bigger picture to consider. |  | |  |
| Expectations, reality and normalcy on 16:18 - Mar 22 with 244 views | Nthsuffolkblue |
| Expectations, reality and normalcy on 16:06 - Mar 22 by Joey_Joe_Joe_Junior | If you’re happy with us being in the 25-30% of parachute teams that haven’t taken advantage as compared to the 70% that have then fair enough, my expectations were greater. We have backed the manager and spent big for a parachute team, 200M big over multiple windows. We are underperforming in a weaker championship. Even sides that were dross in the PL went back up with far less spent, Burnley, Norwich, Blades etc. |
Would I rather support Stoke, West Brom, Norwich, Middlesborough, Swansea, Leicester, Bolton, Luton, Southampton, Burnley, ... Remember Leeds took two years of parachute payments to go back up. Yes, Newcastle, Forest and Villa are doing better but they also started from a far better point than us. And who is to say we won't be where Sunderland are in another few seasons? I don't think your suggestion that 70-75% of parachute teams get promoted at their first attempt is anywhere close to the reality. Possibly 33%. |  |
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| Expectations, reality and normalcy on 16:18 - Mar 22 with 242 views | Nthsuffolkblue |
| Expectations, reality and normalcy on 16:11 - Mar 22 by Joey_Joe_Joe_Junior | No I’m not, I’ve literally done the opposite, I’m stating what the floor has been over the last decade. If you want to get into the best look at totals the last few years it would have taken. |
The floor? That has to be Luton isn't it? |  |
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| Expectations, reality and normalcy on 16:21 - Mar 22 with 233 views | Nthsuffolkblue |
| Expectations, reality and normalcy on 16:06 - Mar 22 by Joey_Joe_Joe_Junior | If you’re happy with us being in the 25-30% of parachute teams that haven’t taken advantage as compared to the 70% that have then fair enough, my expectations were greater. We have backed the manager and spent big for a parachute team, 200M big over multiple windows. We are underperforming in a weaker championship. Even sides that were dross in the PL went back up with far less spent, Burnley, Norwich, Blades etc. |
We haven't spent £200M have we? We have sold Delap and Hutchinson for a fair chunk of that income. We started with a squad that was mid-table in League 1 before spending whatever the real figure is. |  |
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| Expectations, reality and normalcy on 16:22 - Mar 22 with 228 views | Joey_Joe_Joe_Junior |
| Expectations, reality and normalcy on 16:18 - Mar 22 by Nthsuffolkblue | The floor? That has to be Luton isn't it? |
The floor of points totals to get back up. You’re the one that brought Luton and Leicester into it. I understand some fans get insecure and use a lot of coping mechanisms about any criticism but we are underperforming this year from a points perspective, we might try get away with it, I hope so. |  |
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| Expectations, reality and normalcy on 16:24 - Mar 22 with 222 views | Nthsuffolkblue |
| Expectations, reality and normalcy on 16:22 - Mar 22 by Joey_Joe_Joe_Junior | The floor of points totals to get back up. You’re the one that brought Luton and Leicester into it. I understand some fans get insecure and use a lot of coping mechanisms about any criticism but we are underperforming this year from a points perspective, we might try get away with it, I hope so. |
The point I am arguing is your assertion that automatic promotion is the minimum we should be expecting and anything less is underachievement. |  |
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| Expectations, reality and normalcy on 16:26 - Mar 22 with 217 views | Joey_Joe_Joe_Junior |
| Expectations, reality and normalcy on 16:18 - Mar 22 by Nthsuffolkblue | Would I rather support Stoke, West Brom, Norwich, Middlesborough, Swansea, Leicester, Bolton, Luton, Southampton, Burnley, ... Remember Leeds took two years of parachute payments to go back up. Yes, Newcastle, Forest and Villa are doing better but they also started from a far better point than us. And who is to say we won't be where Sunderland are in another few seasons? I don't think your suggestion that 70-75% of parachute teams get promoted at their first attempt is anywhere close to the reality. Possibly 33%. |
Leeds finish 3rd on 90 points after falling apart (again) late. As I said if we get mid 80s and miss out, I think that’s an under performance comparably, especially this year. |  |
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| Expectations, reality and normalcy on 16:28 - Mar 22 with 214 views | Churchman |
| Expectations, reality and normalcy on 16:13 - Mar 22 by waveneyblue | Its not about "being happy", its about understanding the situation. Appreciate you are going to die on the hill of crap league and under achievement, but theres a much much bigger picture to consider. |
You are right, but I’d give up if I were you. We lost yesterday, have cr@p players and manager who we hate, useless CEO and in case you missed it, hosed money up the wall on players who are worth nothing and don’t even try. The games are rubbish and we are not miles ahead as we are entitled to be. Not one of the usual cadre have had a single positive thing to say about yesterday’s game, any player or anything else. Nothing. Zilch. What a depressing place planet Hatenmisery must be. |  | |  |
| Expectations, reality and normalcy on 16:30 - Mar 22 with 210 views | Joey_Joe_Joe_Junior |
| Expectations, reality and normalcy on 16:24 - Mar 22 by Nthsuffolkblue | The point I am arguing is your assertion that automatic promotion is the minimum we should be expecting and anything less is underachievement. |
With the stability at coach, funds available and coming down with Leicester, that is where I was at before a ball was kicked, correct. Fair enough if you weren’t, I expect ownership was closer to my way of thinking. Obviously winning the playoffs will achieve the same outcome. |  |
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| Expectations, reality and normalcy on 16:30 - Mar 22 with 208 views | Nthsuffolkblue |
| Expectations, reality and normalcy on 16:26 - Mar 22 by Joey_Joe_Joe_Junior | Leeds finish 3rd on 90 points after falling apart (again) late. As I said if we get mid 80s and miss out, I think that’s an under performance comparably, especially this year. |
You are taking Leeds as normalcy. Leeds who had spent 3 consecutive seasons in the Premier League before relegation and hadn't been in League 1 since 2010. Why not take Luton as a benchmark? |  |
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| Expectations, reality and normalcy on 16:31 - Mar 22 with 205 views | Joey_Joe_Joe_Junior |
| Expectations, reality and normalcy on 16:30 - Mar 22 by Nthsuffolkblue | You are taking Leeds as normalcy. Leeds who had spent 3 consecutive seasons in the Premier League before relegation and hadn't been in League 1 since 2010. Why not take Luton as a benchmark? |
Because they spent nothing and put it towards the stadium. Look at the fees we were chucking around the contract we gave McKenna. |  |
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| Expectations, reality and normalcy on 16:35 - Mar 22 with 197 views | Nthsuffolkblue |
| Expectations, reality and normalcy on 16:31 - Mar 22 by Joey_Joe_Joe_Junior | Because they spent nothing and put it towards the stadium. Look at the fees we were chucking around the contract we gave McKenna. |
Spent around £60M. Received around £90M. Those fees? https://www.transfermarkt.co.u EDIT: Compare that to the first season down for Leeds who only sold one star player and spent more than they received. https://www.transfermarkt.com/ [Post edited 22 Mar 16:40]
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| Expectations, reality and normalcy on 16:42 - Mar 22 with 185 views | Joey_Joe_Joe_Junior |
Every club that comes down will usually have to have a couple big outgoings fees. I’m not suggesting we haven’t done similar trading but I was talking about from when we got promoted in 2024. How much profit we made on Delap and Hutchinson after their fee the summer before and obligations? So it isn’t really receiving 90M and spending 60M. We could obviously only buy them outright with promotion. The point is we have been able to freely spend at a very decent level since promotion to PL over multiple windows and our neck a neck with squads assembled on a pittance comparatively. [Post edited 22 Mar 16:48]
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| Expectations, reality and normalcy on 16:44 - Mar 22 with 177 views | pointofblue |
| Expectations, reality and normalcy on 16:18 - Mar 22 by Nthsuffolkblue | Would I rather support Stoke, West Brom, Norwich, Middlesborough, Swansea, Leicester, Bolton, Luton, Southampton, Burnley, ... Remember Leeds took two years of parachute payments to go back up. Yes, Newcastle, Forest and Villa are doing better but they also started from a far better point than us. And who is to say we won't be where Sunderland are in another few seasons? I don't think your suggestion that 70-75% of parachute teams get promoted at their first attempt is anywhere close to the reality. Possibly 33%. |
The current structure of parachute payments was introduced in the 2015/16 season. From 2016/17 onwards: Relegated in 2015/16: Newcastle (1st), Norwich (8th), Aston Villa (13th) Relegated in 2016/17: Hull (18th), Middlesbrough (5th - lost in play offs), Sunderland (24th) Relegated in 2017/18: Swansea (10th), Stoke (16th), West Brom (4th - lost in play offs) Relegated in 2018/19: Cardiff (5th), Fulham (4th - promoted), Huddersfield (18th) Relegated in 2019/20: Bournemouth (6th - lost in play offs), Watford (2nd), Norwich (1st) Relegated in 2020/21: Fulham (1st), West Brom (10th), Sheffiled United (5th - lost in play offs) Relegated in 2021/22: Burnley (1st), Watford (11th), Norwich (13th) Relegated in 2022/23: Leicester (1st), Leeds (3rd - lost in play offs), Southampton (4th - promoted) Relegated in 2023/24: Luton (22nd), Burnley (2nd), Sheffiled United (3rd - lost in play offs) I think 2023/24 is such an anomaly in so many ways, and yet it's the only season of the Championship we had experienced out of five. It leads some, I have to admit including myself, to think that the relegated clubs have a real advantage over the rest, but it really isn't the case. Out of the last ten seasons, only twice have all three relegated clubs ended up in the top six the following year - one of them being 2023/24 - and no season has resulted in all three promoted teams bounce back straight away. 2023/24 was the closest it came to happening. |  |
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| Expectations, reality and normalcy on 16:48 - Mar 22 with 171 views | waveneyblue |
| Expectations, reality and normalcy on 16:28 - Mar 22 by Churchman | You are right, but I’d give up if I were you. We lost yesterday, have cr@p players and manager who we hate, useless CEO and in case you missed it, hosed money up the wall on players who are worth nothing and don’t even try. The games are rubbish and we are not miles ahead as we are entitled to be. Not one of the usual cadre have had a single positive thing to say about yesterday’s game, any player or anything else. Nothing. Zilch. What a depressing place planet Hatenmisery must be. |
It fascinates me how so many "supporters" will argue so hard against the club when trying to do them down. This fella being the ultimate example. I remember when it was the norm to defend your club to the hilt. This modern world is "well weird" |  | |  |
| Expectations, reality and normalcy on 16:48 - Mar 22 with 169 views | Nthsuffolkblue |
| Expectations, reality and normalcy on 16:42 - Mar 22 by Joey_Joe_Joe_Junior | Every club that comes down will usually have to have a couple big outgoings fees. I’m not suggesting we haven’t done similar trading but I was talking about from when we got promoted in 2024. How much profit we made on Delap and Hutchinson after their fee the summer before and obligations? So it isn’t really receiving 90M and spending 60M. We could obviously only buy them outright with promotion. The point is we have been able to freely spend at a very decent level since promotion to PL over multiple windows and our neck a neck with squads assembled on a pittance comparatively. [Post edited 22 Mar 16:48]
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If neck a neck includes being many points ahead of most of them that over the same period have probably had fairly similar investment (Norwich, Southampton, Sheffield United, etc). Middlesbrough spent £50M net this season. https://www.transfermarkt.co.u |  |
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| Expectations, reality and normalcy on 16:58 - Mar 22 with 145 views | Joey_Joe_Joe_Junior |
| Expectations, reality and normalcy on 16:48 - Mar 22 by Nthsuffolkblue | If neck a neck includes being many points ahead of most of them that over the same period have probably had fairly similar investment (Norwich, Southampton, Sheffield United, etc). Middlesbrough spent £50M net this season. https://www.transfermarkt.co.u |
Boro have been a selling club and assembled a decent squad, Norwich have spent a lot for now for a non parachute club after similarly decent outgoing fees to Boro. To say they’ve had similar investment to us since the summers of 2024 is obviously false. You’re ignoring all the players we brought in our PL promotion and kept. Already told you about Southampton early and how they were a mess at the start of the season, how many managers have they had since we both went up? Look what they’re doing now with a decent coach. If you can’t or won’t acknowledge we have been slightly underachieving with our investment and keeping McKenna, fine that’s up to you. Or if you think we are exactly where we should be, also your opinion, just isn’t one I particularly share. |  |
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| Expectations, reality and normalcy on 17:02 - Mar 22 with 130 views | Joey_Joe_Joe_Junior |
| Expectations, reality and normalcy on 16:28 - Mar 22 by Churchman | You are right, but I’d give up if I were you. We lost yesterday, have cr@p players and manager who we hate, useless CEO and in case you missed it, hosed money up the wall on players who are worth nothing and don’t even try. The games are rubbish and we are not miles ahead as we are entitled to be. Not one of the usual cadre have had a single positive thing to say about yesterday’s game, any player or anything else. Nothing. Zilch. What a depressing place planet Hatenmisery must be. |
Who said any of this? I must have missed it. |  |
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| Expectations, reality and normalcy on 17:20 - Mar 22 with 106 views | The_Major | Appreciate it was a different time, but many years ago, I recall reading an interview with a leading manager of the time (got a feeling it was Alex Ferguson) saying that in an ideal world, a team takes three seasons to achieve a target, then you start to build another team to reach the next level. It was a theory that he followed, as did the other big managers of the past - Shankly, Paisley, Clough, Revie etc. Which seems about right if you look at at SBR here. Team 1: 69-72: Robertson, Best, Hill, Jefferson etc - Steady the ship, consolidate in D1 Team 2: 72-75: Hunter, Battie, Viljoen, Johnson - consistently top half, start pushing for honours Team 3: 75-78: Whymark, Mariner, Wark, Geddis - consistently top 5, in genuine contention for honours Team 4: 78-82: Gates, Brazil, Butcher, Muhren, Thijssen - become one of the top 3 or 4 consistently best teams in the country, favourites for honours So, let's apply that logic to McKenna. Discount the half a season he had at the start. His first team would be to get out of L1 and stabilise in the Championship. Team 2 would be to get in the Prem and stabilise there. That would take us to the end of 27/28. Problem is that nobody, including the club itself, expected 23/24 to happen, and so that has understandably changed expectations. And now we are where we are. Overall, 18 out of 57 relegated teams have gone back at the first attempt since the parachute payments started in 2006/07. So, on one hand that's less than a third, but ten of those have been in the last five seasons, so for that period it goes up to two thirds. With both the above points in mind, there is an argument that it would be expected that we should go up, although the counter argument could be made that we had to create two teams in two season thanks to getting in the Prem, and that's muddoed the waters a bit. All I know is that we are in a good position, and that things are in our own hands. Going up this season would of course be welcomed, especially bearing in mind that next season we could end up with a resurgent Wolves, Burnley who are experts at bouncing back, and possibly even Spurs. And that's not counting teams still here - Saints, Sheff U, and let's be honest here, I think that lot up the road will be a force next year as well. The problem with not going up this season is that next season the pressure will really be on - last year of parachute payments, the all new Playford Road up and running at a huge expense. I'm constantly conflicted - one minute I'm thinking we need to go up this year, the next I'm thinking it won't be the end of the world if we don't. The fact is, we've had more excitement in the last four seasons than we did in the prebious 20, bar the Royle goal machines season, and Mick's playoff tilt. The next six weeks are no doubt going to be bumpy. But all we can do is support them, even when the path gets difficult. Buckle up. |  | |  |
| Expectations, reality and normalcy on 17:25 - Mar 22 with 97 views | Joey_Joe_Joe_Junior |
| Expectations, reality and normalcy on 17:20 - Mar 22 by The_Major | Appreciate it was a different time, but many years ago, I recall reading an interview with a leading manager of the time (got a feeling it was Alex Ferguson) saying that in an ideal world, a team takes three seasons to achieve a target, then you start to build another team to reach the next level. It was a theory that he followed, as did the other big managers of the past - Shankly, Paisley, Clough, Revie etc. Which seems about right if you look at at SBR here. Team 1: 69-72: Robertson, Best, Hill, Jefferson etc - Steady the ship, consolidate in D1 Team 2: 72-75: Hunter, Battie, Viljoen, Johnson - consistently top half, start pushing for honours Team 3: 75-78: Whymark, Mariner, Wark, Geddis - consistently top 5, in genuine contention for honours Team 4: 78-82: Gates, Brazil, Butcher, Muhren, Thijssen - become one of the top 3 or 4 consistently best teams in the country, favourites for honours So, let's apply that logic to McKenna. Discount the half a season he had at the start. His first team would be to get out of L1 and stabilise in the Championship. Team 2 would be to get in the Prem and stabilise there. That would take us to the end of 27/28. Problem is that nobody, including the club itself, expected 23/24 to happen, and so that has understandably changed expectations. And now we are where we are. Overall, 18 out of 57 relegated teams have gone back at the first attempt since the parachute payments started in 2006/07. So, on one hand that's less than a third, but ten of those have been in the last five seasons, so for that period it goes up to two thirds. With both the above points in mind, there is an argument that it would be expected that we should go up, although the counter argument could be made that we had to create two teams in two season thanks to getting in the Prem, and that's muddoed the waters a bit. All I know is that we are in a good position, and that things are in our own hands. Going up this season would of course be welcomed, especially bearing in mind that next season we could end up with a resurgent Wolves, Burnley who are experts at bouncing back, and possibly even Spurs. And that's not counting teams still here - Saints, Sheff U, and let's be honest here, I think that lot up the road will be a force next year as well. The problem with not going up this season is that next season the pressure will really be on - last year of parachute payments, the all new Playford Road up and running at a huge expense. I'm constantly conflicted - one minute I'm thinking we need to go up this year, the next I'm thinking it won't be the end of the world if we don't. The fact is, we've had more excitement in the last four seasons than we did in the prebious 20, bar the Royle goal machines season, and Mick's playoff tilt. The next six weeks are no doubt going to be bumpy. But all we can do is support them, even when the path gets difficult. Buckle up. |
Absolutely vital we go up this season. Wolves, Burnley, West Ham/Spurs and other teams already here coming on strong and looking in a decent place for next season. Also a greater chance of staying up with Cov +1 from this lot going up. |  |
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| Expectations, reality and normalcy on 17:27 - Mar 22 with 84 views | waveneyblue |
| Expectations, reality and normalcy on 17:20 - Mar 22 by The_Major | Appreciate it was a different time, but many years ago, I recall reading an interview with a leading manager of the time (got a feeling it was Alex Ferguson) saying that in an ideal world, a team takes three seasons to achieve a target, then you start to build another team to reach the next level. It was a theory that he followed, as did the other big managers of the past - Shankly, Paisley, Clough, Revie etc. Which seems about right if you look at at SBR here. Team 1: 69-72: Robertson, Best, Hill, Jefferson etc - Steady the ship, consolidate in D1 Team 2: 72-75: Hunter, Battie, Viljoen, Johnson - consistently top half, start pushing for honours Team 3: 75-78: Whymark, Mariner, Wark, Geddis - consistently top 5, in genuine contention for honours Team 4: 78-82: Gates, Brazil, Butcher, Muhren, Thijssen - become one of the top 3 or 4 consistently best teams in the country, favourites for honours So, let's apply that logic to McKenna. Discount the half a season he had at the start. His first team would be to get out of L1 and stabilise in the Championship. Team 2 would be to get in the Prem and stabilise there. That would take us to the end of 27/28. Problem is that nobody, including the club itself, expected 23/24 to happen, and so that has understandably changed expectations. And now we are where we are. Overall, 18 out of 57 relegated teams have gone back at the first attempt since the parachute payments started in 2006/07. So, on one hand that's less than a third, but ten of those have been in the last five seasons, so for that period it goes up to two thirds. With both the above points in mind, there is an argument that it would be expected that we should go up, although the counter argument could be made that we had to create two teams in two season thanks to getting in the Prem, and that's muddoed the waters a bit. All I know is that we are in a good position, and that things are in our own hands. Going up this season would of course be welcomed, especially bearing in mind that next season we could end up with a resurgent Wolves, Burnley who are experts at bouncing back, and possibly even Spurs. And that's not counting teams still here - Saints, Sheff U, and let's be honest here, I think that lot up the road will be a force next year as well. The problem with not going up this season is that next season the pressure will really be on - last year of parachute payments, the all new Playford Road up and running at a huge expense. I'm constantly conflicted - one minute I'm thinking we need to go up this year, the next I'm thinking it won't be the end of the world if we don't. The fact is, we've had more excitement in the last four seasons than we did in the prebious 20, bar the Royle goal machines season, and Mick's playoff tilt. The next six weeks are no doubt going to be bumpy. But all we can do is support them, even when the path gets difficult. Buckle up. |
No... they want it now... Now I tells ya..... |  | |  |
| Expectations, reality and normalcy on 19:33 - Mar 22 with 20 views | solemio | The word 'normalcy' was incorrect, but is one of those words where so many people got it wrong that it has become correct. Normality is still the preferred word. |  | |  |
| Expectations, reality and normalcy on 19:41 - Mar 22 with 8 views | bsw72 |
| Expectations, reality and normalcy on 19:33 - Mar 22 by solemio | The word 'normalcy' was incorrect, but is one of those words where so many people got it wrong that it has become correct. Normality is still the preferred word. |
Odd response but to be clear it’s not wrong, they are technically interchangeable. "Normality" is considered more linguistically sound based on its root, while "normalcy" is often used in political or social contexts, as this was more of a social commentary type post I felt the use of normalcy was appropriate. But thanks for your input. |  | |  |
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