| Out of Contract in the Summer 15:20 - Apr 13 with 3762 views | BlacknGoldnBlue |
According to transfermarket the players below contracts expire this summer - who will be re-signed?
Personally, I think we'll only sign Kipre! I think the club will move Cajuste and Akpom straight on.
I don't think we'll sign Dan Neil (he'll go to a top championship club).
Unfortunately Azon hasn't shown enough. Townsend will be let go along with Button and Young.
Think Burns will also be let go (and that will be hard to take).
Jens Cajuste Obligation to buy with conditions
Dan Neil
Chuba Akpom Obligation to buy with conditions
Iván Azón
Cédric Kipré Option to buy
Wes Burns
Conor Townsend
Ashley Young
David Button
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| Out of Contract in the Summer on 15:26 - Apr 13 with 3355 views | _CliveBaker_ |
Sounds about right.
Burns I think will be after a big final pay day, and he’s struggled for fitness. Been a brilliant signing and pound for pound ridiculous value, I’d wish him well if he moves on this summer.
Chaplin too. I think Humphreys and Baggott will also go. Muric, Al-Hamadi, Harry Clarke too. |  | | |
| Out of Contract in the Summer on 15:28 - Apr 13 with 3300 views | baxterbasics |
Will be a shame about Conor Townsend. He was looking solid there, good competition/cover for Davis. But no guarantee he'll get back to 100% in time for anther PL run. |  |
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| Out of Contract in the Summer on 15:34 - Apr 13 with 3222 views | burnbudgiesburn |
I think despite not pulling up trees this season, Cajuste at £4.5m is a decent premier league squad option
I make you right about the rest, the only way we sign Neil is if we don't go up - one of the better champ midfield options but not prem class.
I wonder how these obligations to buy work, assuming there are no appearance clauses etc - are there penalty fees involved if we dont go through with them? We'd have to work out if we can save more by signing then reselling or just paying the penalty fee to get out of it. |  | | |
| Out of Contract in the Summer on 15:41 - Apr 13 with 3134 views | OldFart71 |
There are also players like Chaplin, Al Hamadi, Muric,Szmodics, Harry Clarke,Ogbene and Humphries. Added to that you have a few currently in the squad who may be moved on.
If we get a promotion I see another big summer of ins and outs. | | | |
| Out of Contract in the Summer on 15:41 - Apr 13 with 3124 views | BlacknGoldnBlue |
| Out of Contract in the Summer on 15:34 - Apr 13 by burnbudgiesburn |
I think despite not pulling up trees this season, Cajuste at £4.5m is a decent premier league squad option
I make you right about the rest, the only way we sign Neil is if we don't go up - one of the better champ midfield options but not prem class.
I wonder how these obligations to buy work, assuming there are no appearance clauses etc - are there penalty fees involved if we dont go through with them? We'd have to work out if we can save more by signing then reselling or just paying the penalty fee to get out of it. |
Depends on contract but, In my head, we'd buy Cajuste for £4.5M (if thats the price) and immediately sell him for same price - so its just a paperwork exercise! | |
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| Out of Contract in the Summer on 15:48 - Apr 13 with 3041 views | _CliveBaker_ |
| Out of Contract in the Summer on 15:34 - Apr 13 by burnbudgiesburn |
I think despite not pulling up trees this season, Cajuste at £4.5m is a decent premier league squad option
I make you right about the rest, the only way we sign Neil is if we don't go up - one of the better champ midfield options but not prem class.
I wonder how these obligations to buy work, assuming there are no appearance clauses etc - are there penalty fees involved if we dont go through with them? We'd have to work out if we can save more by signing then reselling or just paying the penalty fee to get out of it. |
In the context of Premier League money I don't think we will be too concerned about an obligation on Kipre, Akpom and Cajuste for a total of £15m. Not saying we would do all those deals if we weren't obliged to, we could probably get our money back if we didn't fancy them, either with some nice loan fees or similar arrangements out to other clubs.
We'll bring a bit in this summer too, I think Szmodics, Muric and Ogbene are the obvious ones to command fees. We won't get what we paid, but those 3 probably fund the above deals (on a real life basis, if not FFP).
Baggot, Humphreys, Al-Hamadi, Slicker (not sure of his contract situation) could bring a little bit in too. Then all the other end of contract departures which will be off the wage bill.
I make our 'base' squad something like this:
Walton, Palmer
Furlong, Johnson, O'Shea, Greaves, Kipre, Davis
Matusiwa, Taylor, Cajuste, Nunez
Egeli, McAteer, Akpom, Mehmeti, Clarke, Philogene
Hirst
That's a decent and well balanced 19 as a starting point. Possibly a few leavers in there, with 8 - 10 to come in. | | | |
| Out of Contract in the Summer on 15:53 - Apr 13 with 2996 views | kiwiblue |
I think Cajuste would work well in a 3 man midfield for the prem.
Neil could add to that as well if he does well in the next 6 games and he is out of contract so a free transfer
Kipre is a cert as he is immense.
Akpom needs to go back as he is on silly money it seems.
Wes should have a 2 year contract and bring on Sindre for the future.
Young and Button can move on and maybe retire.
Townsend can replace Young and Harry Clarke.
Azon if the next 6 games are good for him he would do well with a preseason coaching programme in top level football.
Sadly Ali needs to move to build his experience.
Chappers needs to move on to enjoy his football
Cam Humphreys needs to come back and work hard at improving.
Muric can go to juve and be involved in a bidding war at 12m
Sammy needs to move on.
1st choice striker keeper and number 10 needed..
6 games 11 points .COYB |  | | |
| Out of Contract in the Summer on 16:05 - Apr 13 with 2873 views | positivity |
someone was saying on here that burns already had something lined up | |
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| Out of Contract in the Summer on 16:05 - Apr 13 with 2876 views | Illinoisblue |
| Out of Contract in the Summer on 15:26 - Apr 13 by _CliveBaker_ |
Sounds about right.
Burns I think will be after a big final pay day, and he’s struggled for fitness. Been a brilliant signing and pound for pound ridiculous value, I’d wish him well if he moves on this summer.
Chaplin too. I think Humphreys and Baggott will also go. Muric, Al-Hamadi, Harry Clarke too. |
Weren’t there strong rumours Burns is moving to an MLS club in the summer? |  |
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| Out of Contract in the Summer on 16:14 - Apr 13 with 2813 views | SuffolkPunchFC |
| Out of Contract in the Summer on 15:48 - Apr 13 by _CliveBaker_ |
In the context of Premier League money I don't think we will be too concerned about an obligation on Kipre, Akpom and Cajuste for a total of £15m. Not saying we would do all those deals if we weren't obliged to, we could probably get our money back if we didn't fancy them, either with some nice loan fees or similar arrangements out to other clubs.
We'll bring a bit in this summer too, I think Szmodics, Muric and Ogbene are the obvious ones to command fees. We won't get what we paid, but those 3 probably fund the above deals (on a real life basis, if not FFP).
Baggot, Humphreys, Al-Hamadi, Slicker (not sure of his contract situation) could bring a little bit in too. Then all the other end of contract departures which will be off the wage bill.
I make our 'base' squad something like this:
Walton, Palmer
Furlong, Johnson, O'Shea, Greaves, Kipre, Davis
Matusiwa, Taylor, Cajuste, Nunez
Egeli, McAteer, Akpom, Mehmeti, Clarke, Philogene
Hirst
That's a decent and well balanced 19 as a starting point. Possibly a few leavers in there, with 8 - 10 to come in. |
I see Hirst being sold to a Championship club, buy in 2 strikers - one first choice with experience, one "for the future" and we keep Azón.
Iván is only just 23, has shown good development already and with a full summer of additional coaching I think he has a part to play next year.
A new first choice 'keeper is a must. Otherwise broadly agree. 7-9 coming in. | | | |
| Out of Contract in the Summer on 16:35 - Apr 13 with 2673 views | jas0999 |
Burns injury record will possibly be a concern and May sadly see him depart.
Jens would still be a good signing for the money. Squad player only.
You would think we would pay the penalty not to sign Akpom. | | | |
| Out of Contract in the Summer on 16:41 - Apr 13 with 2627 views | _CliveBaker_ |
| Out of Contract in the Summer on 16:05 - Apr 13 by Illinoisblue |
Weren’t there strong rumours Burns is moving to an MLS club in the summer? |
That wouldn't surprise me, probably a good move for him to get a 2-3 year deal out there. He probably hasn't earned 'silly money' from football at any point in his career until the last couple of years, so fair play if he cashes his chips now at 31. Can't blame him at all. | | | |
| Out of Contract in the Summer on 16:47 - Apr 13 with 2591 views | tractor_lady |
| Out of Contract in the Summer on 15:48 - Apr 13 by _CliveBaker_ |
In the context of Premier League money I don't think we will be too concerned about an obligation on Kipre, Akpom and Cajuste for a total of £15m. Not saying we would do all those deals if we weren't obliged to, we could probably get our money back if we didn't fancy them, either with some nice loan fees or similar arrangements out to other clubs.
We'll bring a bit in this summer too, I think Szmodics, Muric and Ogbene are the obvious ones to command fees. We won't get what we paid, but those 3 probably fund the above deals (on a real life basis, if not FFP).
Baggot, Humphreys, Al-Hamadi, Slicker (not sure of his contract situation) could bring a little bit in too. Then all the other end of contract departures which will be off the wage bill.
I make our 'base' squad something like this:
Walton, Palmer
Furlong, Johnson, O'Shea, Greaves, Kipre, Davis
Matusiwa, Taylor, Cajuste, Nunez
Egeli, McAteer, Akpom, Mehmeti, Clarke, Philogene
Hirst
That's a decent and well balanced 19 as a starting point. Possibly a few leavers in there, with 8 - 10 to come in. |
I do wonder if appearances in Championship were part of the deal and thats why he isn't playing?? As in we are not obliged to buy as he didnt make enough appearances? | | | |
| Out of Contract in the Summer on 16:56 - Apr 13 with 2478 views | _CliveBaker_ |
| Out of Contract in the Summer on 16:47 - Apr 13 by tractor_lady |
I do wonder if appearances in Championship were part of the deal and thats why he isn't playing?? As in we are not obliged to buy as he didnt make enough appearances? |
There could be something written in the contracts to that effect. I think its more likely Cajuste and Akpom just haven't played more because they haven't been particularly effective when they have tbh. | | | |
| Out of Contract in the Summer on 17:38 - Apr 13 with 2219 views | Illinoisblue |
| Out of Contract in the Summer on 16:41 - Apr 13 by _CliveBaker_ |
That wouldn't surprise me, probably a good move for him to get a 2-3 year deal out there. He probably hasn't earned 'silly money' from football at any point in his career until the last couple of years, so fair play if he cashes his chips now at 31. Can't blame him at all. |
Wouldn’t blame him at all. One of our best value signings of all time and just from the clips seen on Town on 5 over the years looks to be a wonderful human being and all round good bloke. “An absolute classic under the lights!” From Barnsley away still makes me smile. | |
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| Out of Contract in the Summer on 18:54 - Apr 13 with 1972 views | Mark |
| Out of Contract in the Summer on 15:41 - Apr 13 by BlacknGoldnBlue |
Depends on contract but, In my head, we'd buy Cajuste for £4.5M (if thats the price) and immediately sell him for same price - so its just a paperwork exercise! |
I am not sure we would get £4.5m for Cajuste when he is mostly an unused sub of late at Championship level, especially given the level of his likely wages. |  | | |
| Out of Contract in the Summer on 18:57 - Apr 13 with 1945 views | Mark |
| Out of Contract in the Summer on 15:53 - Apr 13 by kiwiblue |
I think Cajuste would work well in a 3 man midfield for the prem.
Neil could add to that as well if he does well in the next 6 games and he is out of contract so a free transfer
Kipre is a cert as he is immense.
Akpom needs to go back as he is on silly money it seems.
Wes should have a 2 year contract and bring on Sindre for the future.
Young and Button can move on and maybe retire.
Townsend can replace Young and Harry Clarke.
Azon if the next 6 games are good for him he would do well with a preseason coaching programme in top level football.
Sadly Ali needs to move to build his experience.
Chappers needs to move on to enjoy his football
Cam Humphreys needs to come back and work hard at improving.
Muric can go to juve and be involved in a bidding war at 12m
Sammy needs to move on.
1st choice striker keeper and number 10 needed..
6 games 11 points .COYB |
Sassuolo reportedly have an option to buy Muric for about £9m, which they may well do and that will be a great result for us. | | | |
| Out of Contract in the Summer on 18:59 - Apr 13 with 1930 views | Radlett_blue |
| Out of Contract in the Summer on 15:48 - Apr 13 by _CliveBaker_ |
In the context of Premier League money I don't think we will be too concerned about an obligation on Kipre, Akpom and Cajuste for a total of £15m. Not saying we would do all those deals if we weren't obliged to, we could probably get our money back if we didn't fancy them, either with some nice loan fees or similar arrangements out to other clubs.
We'll bring a bit in this summer too, I think Szmodics, Muric and Ogbene are the obvious ones to command fees. We won't get what we paid, but those 3 probably fund the above deals (on a real life basis, if not FFP).
Baggot, Humphreys, Al-Hamadi, Slicker (not sure of his contract situation) could bring a little bit in too. Then all the other end of contract departures which will be off the wage bill.
I make our 'base' squad something like this:
Walton, Palmer
Furlong, Johnson, O'Shea, Greaves, Kipre, Davis
Matusiwa, Taylor, Cajuste, Nunez
Egeli, McAteer, Akpom, Mehmeti, Clarke, Philogene
Hirst
That's a decent and well balanced 19 as a starting point. Possibly a few leavers in there, with 8 - 10 to come in. |
Most of these players won't be good enough. They're nearly all good Championship players. Dan Neil is just the same. A regular in their promotion team, but they realised he wasn't good enough for the PL. If we are to have any chance of survival, we need to gamble on young players like Delap & players from overseas leagues. |  |
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| Out of Contract in the Summer on 19:02 - Apr 13 with 1917 views | Mark |
| Out of Contract in the Summer on 16:35 - Apr 13 by jas0999 |
Burns injury record will possibly be a concern and May sadly see him depart.
Jens would still be a good signing for the money. Squad player only.
You would think we would pay the penalty not to sign Akpom. |
Our obligation to buy Akpom is reportedly £7m, but that is only part of the story with his wages on top so I wonder if we could even move him out on a free transfer given his performances this season. If there is any clause to allow us to pay a penalty to get out of the deals, I expect we will. | | | |
| Out of Contract in the Summer on 19:18 - Apr 13 with 1825 views | positivity |
| Out of Contract in the Summer on 18:57 - Apr 13 by Mark |
Sassuolo reportedly have an option to buy Muric for about £9m, which they may well do and that will be a great result for us. |
they will, and then sell him on again for a quick profit, pity! | |
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| Out of Contract in the Summer on 19:52 - Apr 13 with 1669 views | Wallingford_Boy |
I’d agree with all that bar Cajuste.
His class shows in the Prem. |  |
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| Out of Contract in the Summer on 20:18 - Apr 13 with 1512 views | HighgateBlue |
I'd be happy to let Cajuste move on, but find it hard to predict what Kieran would do with him if (as now expected!) we make the Prem. Agree re all the others.
Looking at that list though, and considering how disappointing/underwhelming a number of those have been, we really are doing very well in the league, aren't we? I can't quite fathom it. And that's before considering the likes of McAteer and Egeli, who may very well still be stars in the future (remember Clarke and Philogene not immediatlely tearing it up), but have not hit the heights which were maybe expected of them.
McKenna finds a way to get promoted, it would seem. I have not been faithful to "the process" for the entire season, but my God McKenna is consistent and relentless. The psychology of the man is fascinating. |  | | |
| Out of Contract in the Summer on 20:37 - Apr 13 with 1442 views | burnbudgiesburn |
| Out of Contract in the Summer on 19:18 - Apr 13 by positivity |
they will, and then sell him on again for a quick profit, pity! |
If we've included one (and I see no reason why we would not) it might be the fastest sell on clause we've ever had activated! | | | |
| Out of Contract in the Summer on 21:10 - Apr 13 with 1262 views | Nutkins_Return |
Dan Neil in a free is a no brainer though. Even if it is for 6 months and he fights for his place. He's a £5-10 mil player to a Wrexham or Birmingham. He's a very good player. Give him. Pre season and get him motivated to win place. He makes it or he doesn't and we move him in for a good fee.
Higher ceiling than Taylor as much as I like Jack and he's been a top club man. Fully up to speed Dan Neil is a good player. | |
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| Out of Contract in the Summer on 21:11 - Apr 13 with 1255 views | bournemouthblue |
Are you including youth players?
I believe Tudor-Mendel is out of contract as an example |  |
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