| Diane Abbott the voice of reason ... 18:09 - Apr 20 with 4397 views | Keno |
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| Diane Abbott the voice of reason ... on 23:22 - Apr 21 with 388 views | reusersfreekicks |
| Diane Abbott the voice of reason ... on 15:09 - Apr 21 by Benters |
He is an awful man is ‘no idea Kier’ he’s the most hated PM in history. |
Grow up |  | | |
| Diane Abbott the voice of reason ... on 05:41 - Apr 22 with 304 views | Benters |
| Diane Abbott the voice of reason ... on 23:22 - Apr 21 by reusersfreekicks |
Grow up |
He is the most disliked PM in history is that better for you oh wise one? |  |
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| Diane Abbott the voice of reason ... on 06:29 - Apr 22 with 273 views | jasondozzell |
| Diane Abbott the voice of reason ... on 23:18 - Apr 21 by reusersfreekicks |
Come on that's ridiculous |
It's absolutely not ridiculous.
He's lied much more in public office than Johnson did
Starmer is easily more duplicit.
The centrist dads don't want it to be true because it reveals that their judgement is dire but it's true. |  | | |
| Diane Abbott the voice of reason ... on 06:29 - Apr 22 with 272 views | jasondozzell |
| Diane Abbott the voice of reason ... on 05:41 - Apr 22 by Benters |
He is the most disliked PM in history is that better for you oh wise one? |
Benters is correct. | | | |
| Diane Abbott the voice of reason ... on 08:04 - Apr 22 with 237 views | Benters |
| Diane Abbott the voice of reason ... on 06:29 - Apr 22 by jasondozzell |
Benters is correct. |
The leftie bf won’t have it buh. | |
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| Diane Abbott the voice of reason ... on 08:40 - Apr 22 with 209 views | DJR |
Mark Sedwill, who was cabinet secretary from 2018 to 2020, says in a letter to the Times that the hearing showed “the calm integrity and intelligence which have characterised [Robbins’] distinguished career of public service”. Sedwill said Robbins should get his job back.
"The prime minister appointed Peter Mandelson against official advice, announced that appointment without security vetting having been completed and claims that he would have changed his mind had he been told that the vetting process had raised the concerns about Mandelson’s previous conduct of which he was already well aware.
As Robbins explained yesterday, the question for him was not whether to tell the prime minister what he already knew, but whether those issues could be mitigated enough to allow Mandelson access to the secret intelligence necessary to do his job. He made the professional judgment that they could. Unwisely as it turned out, he shouldered his responsibilities rather than shunting them.
The prime minister should retract his accusations against Olly Robbins and reinstate him to the job the country needs him to do of getting the diplomatic service into shape for the second quarter of the 21st century." [Post edited 22 Apr 8:43]
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| Diane Abbott the voice of reason ... on 08:47 - Apr 22 with 197 views | DJR |
| Diane Abbott the voice of reason ... on 22:32 - Apr 20 by Nthsuffolkblue |
Unless he were CEO and Chairman of the local football club! |
Disgraceful to hear Emily Thornberry say on Sky that Stamer was right to sack Robbins.
She is chair of the committee so should keep her opinions to herself not least because the committee hasn't finished its deliberations and her view may not reflect that of the committee as a whole.
She is also a lawyer and so just should not be expressing her opinion on an employment issue when she does not know the full facts.
Maybe she's angling for a place in government. [Post edited 22 Apr 8:48]
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| Diane Abbott the voice of reason ... on 08:56 - Apr 22 with 177 views | DanTheMan |
| Diane Abbott the voice of reason ... on 17:00 - Apr 21 by DJR |
"hated" is the wrong word but this from Full Fact is rather damning.
https://fullfact.org/politics/
"Last September Gideon Skinner, senior director of UK politics at Ipsos, said that Mr Starmer’s “personal satisfaction ratings are the worst for any Prime Minister polled by Ipsos since we first started asking the question in 1977”.
This was based on Ipsos polling which had found 13% of voters in September said they were satisfied with Mr Starmer. In the November edition of Ipsos’ ‘Political Monitor’, 13% were again satisfied with Mr Starmer.
Earlier this month, Ipsos reported Mr Starmer’s satisfaction rating had improved slightly in January, and was at 15%, though a 77% dissatisfaction rating meant overall Mr Starmer’s net satisfaction score was -62. Mr Skinner said satisfaction with the Prime Minister “remains historically low”.
Our analysis of the Ipsos data suggests that on all three ways of examining the figures—satisfaction, dissatisfaction and net satisfaction—Mr Starmer’s scores at some points in recent months have been lower than other PMs since 1977.
There are a number of other polls to look at, however, which give a mixed picture. Some suggest Mr Starmer’s polling may not be the worst for a PM and Liz Truss fared worse." [Post edited 21 Apr 17:01]
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I never said he was liked, but worst in history? Even that snippet has Truss as coming out worse which isn't surprising. |  |
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| Diane Abbott the voice of reason ... on 09:14 - Apr 22 with 146 views | DJR |
| Diane Abbott the voice of reason ... on 08:56 - Apr 22 by DanTheMan |
I never said he was liked, but worst in history? Even that snippet has Truss as coming out worse which isn't surprising. |
I included the last paragraph for balance, but as I said, the polling on him is pretty damning.
Part of the problem is that he has alienated many who would naturally be Labour voters because of a futile attempt to appeal to Reform voters.
Indeed, if the centre/left vote wasn't split roughly evenly between three parties, Labour and Starmer would be in a much stronger position.
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| Diane Abbott the voice of reason ... on 09:50 - Apr 22 with 106 views | ArnoldMoorhen |
Has Yvette Cooper resigned yet?
This is the point that is being missed, and that I haven't heard elsewhere.
If the Foreign Office messed up the appointment process of Mandelaon so badly, by failing to inform the Prime Minister that he had failed his security vetting, that Olly Robbins had to resign, then the old convention of "Ministerial Accountability" comes into play.
The Minister is responsible for the Department, and when the Department messes up badly, the Minister resigns.
Yet Yvette Cooper is still in post.
We all *suspect* that maybe it wasn't the Foreign Office that messed this up, but that is part of a binary flowchart branch:
Either the FCO messed up, and Cooper should resign.
Or the FCO was over-ruled, Cooper knows that Number 10 is covering something up and sacked her Senior Civil Servant unfairly. In which case, she should resign.
The Leader of the Opposition focused on the wrong target, in my opinion.
Focus on Cooper and get her to appear before the Foreign Affairs Committee after she has resigned, and the truth will out.
If Cooper were to do the honourable thing right now, and make a principled "I can no longer stand by..." speech, she could even find herself in pole position for the leadership, and become PM, should she want it. |  | | |
| Diane Abbott the voice of reason ... on 09:53 - Apr 22 with 99 views | Keno |
| Diane Abbott the voice of reason ... on 09:50 - Apr 22 by ArnoldMoorhen |
Has Yvette Cooper resigned yet?
This is the point that is being missed, and that I haven't heard elsewhere.
If the Foreign Office messed up the appointment process of Mandelaon so badly, by failing to inform the Prime Minister that he had failed his security vetting, that Olly Robbins had to resign, then the old convention of "Ministerial Accountability" comes into play.
The Minister is responsible for the Department, and when the Department messes up badly, the Minister resigns.
Yet Yvette Cooper is still in post.
We all *suspect* that maybe it wasn't the Foreign Office that messed this up, but that is part of a binary flowchart branch:
Either the FCO messed up, and Cooper should resign.
Or the FCO was over-ruled, Cooper knows that Number 10 is covering something up and sacked her Senior Civil Servant unfairly. In which case, she should resign.
The Leader of the Opposition focused on the wrong target, in my opinion.
Focus on Cooper and get her to appear before the Foreign Affairs Committee after she has resigned, and the truth will out.
If Cooper were to do the honourable thing right now, and make a principled "I can no longer stand by..." speech, she could even find herself in pole position for the leadership, and become PM, should she want it. |
Geoffrey Howe speech when he resigned was linked to being 'savaged by a dead sheep'
what would the analogy if Cooper does it? | |
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| Diane Abbott the voice of reason ... on 10:02 - Apr 22 with 87 views | ArnoldMoorhen |
| Diane Abbott the voice of reason ... on 09:53 - Apr 22 by Keno |
Geoffrey Howe speech when he resigned was linked to being 'savaged by a dead sheep'
what would the analogy if Cooper does it? |
"Torn apart by a livid meerkat"? | | | |
| Diane Abbott the voice of reason ... on 10:07 - Apr 22 with 75 views | GlasgowBlue |
| Diane Abbott the voice of reason ... on 09:53 - Apr 22 by Keno |
Geoffrey Howe speech when he resigned was linked to being 'savaged by a dead sheep'
what would the analogy if Cooper does it? |
Have to correct you there Keno. His speaking style was compared to be savaged by a dead sheep by Denis Healey in 1978.
His 1990 resignation speech was described as a "dead sheep" turning into a "roaring lion" by the Guardian. |  |
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| Diane Abbott the voice of reason ... on 10:09 - Apr 22 with 61 views | GlasgowBlue |
| Diane Abbott the voice of reason ... on 09:50 - Apr 22 by ArnoldMoorhen |
Has Yvette Cooper resigned yet?
This is the point that is being missed, and that I haven't heard elsewhere.
If the Foreign Office messed up the appointment process of Mandelaon so badly, by failing to inform the Prime Minister that he had failed his security vetting, that Olly Robbins had to resign, then the old convention of "Ministerial Accountability" comes into play.
The Minister is responsible for the Department, and when the Department messes up badly, the Minister resigns.
Yet Yvette Cooper is still in post.
We all *suspect* that maybe it wasn't the Foreign Office that messed this up, but that is part of a binary flowchart branch:
Either the FCO messed up, and Cooper should resign.
Or the FCO was over-ruled, Cooper knows that Number 10 is covering something up and sacked her Senior Civil Servant unfairly. In which case, she should resign.
The Leader of the Opposition focused on the wrong target, in my opinion.
Focus on Cooper and get her to appear before the Foreign Affairs Committee after she has resigned, and the truth will out.
If Cooper were to do the honourable thing right now, and make a principled "I can no longer stand by..." speech, she could even find herself in pole position for the leadership, and become PM, should she want it. |
Wasn't Lammy FS at the time? | |
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| Diane Abbott the voice of reason ... on 10:10 - Apr 22 with 53 views | Keno |
| Diane Abbott the voice of reason ... on 10:07 - Apr 22 by GlasgowBlue |
Have to correct you there Keno. His speaking style was compared to be savaged by a dead sheep by Denis Healey in 1978.
His 1990 resignation speech was described as a "dead sheep" turning into a "roaring lion" by the Guardian. |
I didn’t know that, I sit corrected
You can still be on Mount Rushmore tho | |
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| Diane Abbott the voice of reason ... on 10:15 - Apr 22 with 39 views | Swansea_Blue |
| Diane Abbott the voice of reason ... on 05:41 - Apr 22 by Benters |
He is the most disliked PM in history is that better for you oh wise one? |
Not necessarily. Chamberlain? Eden? There was life before opinion polls. Even with polls considerably more people wanted Johnson out than do Starmer. He’s deeply unpopular for sure, but there’s very little in it in recent times, although it makes for a punchy soundbite I suppose. Lies, damn lies and statistics and all that. |  |
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