| Forget about Reform, They won’t win the next GE 15:04 - May 8 with 2614 views | BelsteadCav | Once Restore is up and running the majority of Reform voters will jump ship Fake Nigel was right about Restore not getting 1%. They got between 40-50% in all the seats they went for. All that in 3 weeks. In 3 years time time they will take over from Reform [Post edited 8 May 15:06]
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| Forget about Reform, They won’t win the next GE on 15:55 - May 8 with 1975 views | Zx1988 | It's certainly a very worrying trend. They ran as Great Yarmouth First in the Yarmouth area, and won all of the nine seats they contested. They beat Reform into second in each seat, beating them by an average of almost 1,000 votes in each district. Given that Lowe was, essentially, too racist even for Reform, it's a shocking indictment of the state of British politics. |  |
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| Forget about Reform, They won’t win the next GE on 16:10 - May 8 with 1901 views | J2BLUE | Well that's depressing. It feels like we've never had more choice yet there's not a decent option from any party. |  | |  |
| Forget about Reform, They won’t win the next GE on 16:17 - May 8 with 1852 views | gtsb1966 | If Starmer wants Labour to get in he should let Andy Burnham stand. He wont though and Labour are done for. Hes a useless prime minister and many wanted a change of government at the last election but not Starmer but in a 2 horse race had no choice. Its now a 3 horse race and with Starmer they are toast. |  | |  |
| Forget about Reform, They won’t win the next GE on 16:21 - May 8 with 1820 views | Swansea_Blue | Ah, the old you can only be British if you’re white and Christian crowd. A lovely bunch. |  |
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| Forget about Reform, They won’t win the next GE on 16:24 - May 8 with 1799 views | Herbivore | I'm okay with anything that splits the racist moron vote, although the overall number of racist morons is a bit of a worry. |  |
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| Forget about Reform, They won’t win the next GE on 16:26 - May 8 with 1783 views | pointofblue |
| Forget about Reform, They won’t win the next GE on 16:17 - May 8 by gtsb1966 | If Starmer wants Labour to get in he should let Andy Burnham stand. He wont though and Labour are done for. Hes a useless prime minister and many wanted a change of government at the last election but not Starmer but in a 2 horse race had no choice. Its now a 3 horse race and with Starmer they are toast. |
The one thing Starmer is good at is u-turns, so he might have resigned by this time on Monday. |  |
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| Forget about Reform, They won’t win the next GE on 16:27 - May 8 with 1779 views | BlueSmoke | The GY result is probably the story of the day. All 10 seats! Amazing what Lowe has done in just a few weeks. |  | |  |
| Forget about Reform, They won’t win the next GE on 16:35 - May 8 with 1707 views | buoyant |
| Forget about Reform, They won’t win the next GE on 16:27 - May 8 by BlueSmoke | The GY result is probably the story of the day. All 10 seats! Amazing what Lowe has done in just a few weeks. |
Does it not concern you at all that a party with views such as theirs have gained so much support? |  |
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| Forget about Reform, They won’t win the next GE on 16:36 - May 8 with 1704 views | htb |
| Forget about Reform, They won’t win the next GE on 16:24 - May 8 by Herbivore | I'm okay with anything that splits the racist moron vote, although the overall number of racist morons is a bit of a worry. |
Calling people who disagree with you racist morons a great way of winning hearts and minds. Why are left wingers so full of hate? |  | |  |
| Forget about Reform, They won’t win the next GE on 16:38 - May 8 with 1692 views | Herbivore |
| Forget about Reform, They won’t win the next GE on 16:36 - May 8 by htb | Calling people who disagree with you racist morons a great way of winning hearts and minds. Why are left wingers so full of hate? |
I'm calling people racist morons for voting for racist political parties, not because they disagree with me. |  |
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| Forget about Reform, They won’t win the next GE on 16:39 - May 8 with 1680 views | Zx1988 |
| Forget about Reform, They won’t win the next GE on 16:24 - May 8 by Herbivore | I'm okay with anything that splits the racist moron vote, although the overall number of racist morons is a bit of a worry. |
The worry is that, in areas such as Yarmouth, even splitting the vote doesn't matter. I think, between them, Restore and Reform got >50% of the vote in all of the divisions. It's scary how easily people in highly-deprived areas, with nothing left to lose, can be spun a lie by a multi-millionaire that everything will be better under his watch. |  |
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| Forget about Reform, They won’t win the next GE on 16:40 - May 8 with 1668 views | leitrimblue |
| Forget about Reform, They won’t win the next GE on 16:36 - May 8 by htb | Calling people who disagree with you racist morons a great way of winning hearts and minds. Why are left wingers so full of hate? |
So you don't see even the tiniest, tiniest hint of racism in the Restore messsge? |  | |  |
| Forget about Reform, They won’t win the next GE on 17:44 - May 8 with 1443 views | flykickingbybgunn |
| Forget about Reform, They won’t win the next GE on 16:40 - May 8 by leitrimblue | So you don't see even the tiniest, tiniest hint of racism in the Restore messsge? |
I live in Yarmouth and did not vote for Yarmouth First. I can see why locals did vote for his party. He talks a lot of horse sense, cares about local issues and donates all his MP's salary to local charities. He is not racist, or at least not like the antisemites in the Greens or Labour. Perhaps I am wrong but that is the perception of the voters. The thing with these minor parties is to give them a little power and then in a year or two we can see how they have done. As you do so shall you be judged. [Post edited 8 May 17:45]
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| Forget about Reform, They won’t win the next GE on 17:56 - May 8 with 1369 views | Bluestu | I didn’t vote for Lowe at the general election, but despite that he has been visible active and constantly raising the profile of many issues - and as mentioned donates his monthly MP salary to a local cause each month (yes he can afford to but he doesn’t have to) Compare that to any other MP there in my life I would struggle to identify them in a line up! In this case he has created a party to concentrate on local issues - hence the Great Yarmouth first potholes, stupid cycle lanes, playground.facilities etc so he got my vote this time |  | |  |
| Forget about Reform, They won’t win the next GE on 18:08 - May 8 with 1327 views | Leaky | I would say that if Rupert Lowe was leader of Reform he would be the next PM |  | |  |
| Forget about Reform, They won’t win the next GE on 18:10 - May 8 with 1310 views | Swansea_Blue |
| Forget about Reform, They won’t win the next GE on 16:36 - May 8 by htb | Calling people who disagree with you racist morons a great way of winning hearts and minds. Why are left wingers so full of hate? |
You do understand that Restore see Britishness only in terms of white British ancestry and Christianity? Could you maybe reflect on where the hatred is really coming from? How do you think people on here who have, and/or with family who have, ethic origins feel about that? By Restore’s definitions they’re not seen as British. People like Sam Morsy or Ashley Young wouldn’t be seen as British. Restore Britain are a far right, overtly racist organisation. There never has been and never should be any expectation to be nice to racists. I’m old enough to remember when the was shame attached to racists and people shunned them. Increasingly people seem proud to wear it as a badge of honour, which is very worrying. |  |
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| Forget about Reform, They won’t win the next GE on 18:14 - May 8 with 1281 views | Swansea_Blue |
| Forget about Reform, They won’t win the next GE on 16:40 - May 8 by leitrimblue | So you don't see even the tiniest, tiniest hint of racism in the Restore messsge? |
They’re all out today. Emboldened by the racist making good gains in the election who still isn’t racist enough for them. It makes you worry where this will end. Do you have much of this nonsense over your way? |  |
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| Forget about Reform, They won’t win the next GE on 18:18 - May 8 with 1257 views | MK1 | I'm well hung in Hampshire. |  |
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| Forget about Reform, They won’t win the next GE on 18:21 - May 8 with 1234 views | Swansea_Blue |
| Forget about Reform, They won’t win the next GE on 17:44 - May 8 by flykickingbybgunn | I live in Yarmouth and did not vote for Yarmouth First. I can see why locals did vote for his party. He talks a lot of horse sense, cares about local issues and donates all his MP's salary to local charities. He is not racist, or at least not like the antisemites in the Greens or Labour. Perhaps I am wrong but that is the perception of the voters. The thing with these minor parties is to give them a little power and then in a year or two we can see how they have done. As you do so shall you be judged. [Post edited 8 May 17:45]
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Technically Restore Britain are antisemitic too, as Jews aren’t part of their vision on what constitutes British. And for clarity, antisemitism or any other form of racism is unacceptable in any party. Or at least I was brought up to believe it was. “Not racist” wow. It smacks of this a bit ”The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command” |  |
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| Forget about Reform, They won’t win the next GE on 18:25 - May 8 with 1189 views | Zx1988 |
| Forget about Reform, They won’t win the next GE on 18:21 - May 8 by Swansea_Blue | Technically Restore Britain are antisemitic too, as Jews aren’t part of their vision on what constitutes British. And for clarity, antisemitism or any other form of racism is unacceptable in any party. Or at least I was brought up to believe it was. “Not racist” wow. It smacks of this a bit ”The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command” |
But if you accept that Rupert 'Man of the Working Classes' Lowe might not always speak the truth, the whole fascist house of cards comes tumbling down. |  |
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| Forget about Reform, They won’t win the next GE on 18:33 - May 8 with 1154 views | Swansea_Blue |
| Forget about Reform, They won’t win the next GE on 18:25 - May 8 by Zx1988 | But if you accept that Rupert 'Man of the Working Classes' Lowe might not always speak the truth, the whole fascist house of cards comes tumbling down. |
True. But he donates his £5k MP salary per month to charity lol. It’s so easy to hoodwink people unfortunately, but here we are. |  |
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| Forget about Reform, They won’t win the next GE on 18:45 - May 8 with 1092 views | Zx1988 |
| Forget about Reform, They won’t win the next GE on 18:33 - May 8 by Swansea_Blue | True. But he donates his £5k MP salary per month to charity lol. It’s so easy to hoodwink people unfortunately, but here we are. |
Depending on what percentage of his councilors' stipends he demands as their contribution to party coffers, he may well have covered that item of expenditure off the back of today's results alone. It's been a big money-maker for Reform Ltd today as well. 1,146 new councillors so far. Even if they take a very minimal £1,000 from each councillor's stipend, that's an extra £1,146,000 in Nigel's business account. Probably the most legitimate/no-strings-attached money he's brought in in a single day. Nice work if you can grift it. [Post edited 8 May 18:49]
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| (No subject) (n/t) on 20:06 - May 8 with 881 views | Bluestu | |  | |  |
| Forget about Reform, They won’t win the next GE on 20:16 - May 8 with 850 views | flykickingbybgunn | The thing is. Not to panic. If Reform gets all this power, what will they do with it ? The reds and the blues have had it for a while and produced not much. Patience. Democracy will out. If they produce then we all benefit. But if they dont then they will go the way of Starmer soon. |  | |  |
| Forget about Reform, They won’t win the next GE on 20:38 - May 8 with 758 views | J2BLUE |
| Forget about Reform, They won’t win the next GE on 20:16 - May 8 by flykickingbybgunn | The thing is. Not to panic. If Reform gets all this power, what will they do with it ? The reds and the blues have had it for a while and produced not much. Patience. Democracy will out. If they produce then we all benefit. But if they dont then they will go the way of Starmer soon. |
Five years with a majority would be a long time for them to dismantle things. |  | |  |
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