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Southampton Spy Gate 15:45 - May 9 with 580 viewskizaitfc

Surely the thing the FA need to consider is, is this the first time they have done it.

It's the first time they have been caught but have they been gaining this advantage over teams all season. Gonna be a very tough decision given where we are at in the season but it would seem the only option here is a points deduction should they lose in the 2nd leg or potentially removing them from the final and therefore Boro automatically proceed.

A fine would not seem sufficient given it is two blatant breaches of the rules and if they were to go up any fine is going to be peanuts. Also they could claim as Leicester did that they wouldn't be under efl rules any more.

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Southampton Spy Gate on 16:01 - May 9 with 528 viewsSwansea_Blue

They closed the loophole on avoiding sanctions between leagues, but yes there does need to be an investigation to find out if there's any evidence of a pattern of cheating.

I'd want to see them kicked out of the POs if there is. That doesn't leave much time to get to the bottom of it though, so that's probably not realistic/not going to happen.

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Southampton Spy Gate on 21:22 - May 9 with 305 viewspointofblue

It unfortunately does put a question mark over their form since Eckert took over. How long has this been going on? Who ordered for it to take place? Have they been benefiting from it? Understandable why Hellberg said other Championship clubs should be angry - especially Wrexham.

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Southampton Spy Gate on 21:37 - May 9 with 268 viewsFreddies_Ears

Southampton Spy Gate on 21:22 - May 9 by pointofblue

It unfortunately does put a question mark over their form since Eckert took over. How long has this been going on? Who ordered for it to take place? Have they been benefiting from it? Understandable why Hellberg said other Championship clubs should be angry - especially Wrexham.


You are quite right. If Southampton cheated to reach the play-offs, I.e. not just this one time at Boro, then Wrexham have been denied a pop at the Premier League.

Just as, all those years Chelsea & Man C cheated, it denied clubs such as Villa (and others) a crack at the Champions League and £100m's of income.

There is no adequate compensation or punishment likely to be handed out. In Southampton's case, automatic relegation to League 1, but that doesnt compensate Wrexham [though there suggestions they misappropriated Welsh govt funds... ah...]
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Southampton Spy Gate on 21:42 - May 9 with 249 viewsFrimleyBlue

Im intrigued by boro apparently saying they have proof they have done it at other clubs this season

Considering the 19 game unbeaten run they could come under some serious scrutiny.

Did anyone notice the boro manager looking really annoyed in the first half. I noticed him at one point gesturing to someone when Southampton were prepping for a goal kick and it appeared to counter the way boro had pressed. After the game he said in the first half he set boro up differently to any other game and there was only one way southampton would know that.

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Southampton Spy Gate on 21:50 - May 9 with 226 viewsBigalhunter

Southampton Spy Gate on 16:01 - May 9 by Swansea_Blue

They closed the loophole on avoiding sanctions between leagues, but yes there does need to be an investigation to find out if there's any evidence of a pattern of cheating.

I'd want to see them kicked out of the POs if there is. That doesn't leave much time to get to the bottom of it though, so that's probably not realistic/not going to happen.


Am I only person who actually finds the whole thing utterly amusing?

Conjures up images of Dad’s Army types disguising themselves as hedges whilst watching the set piece routines of the enemy.

In all seriousness, surveillance capabilities being what they are nowadays, I’m amazed it doesn’t happen far more often, particularly in the Championship play offs where the prize money is off the scale.

I’d have thought Southampton might have invested in something a little more technologically robust than a spotty lad standing on a hill and filming it on his mobile…




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Southampton Spy Gate on 23:25 - May 9 with 137 viewsChurchman

Southampton Spy Gate on 21:50 - May 9 by Bigalhunter

Am I only person who actually finds the whole thing utterly amusing?

Conjures up images of Dad’s Army types disguising themselves as hedges whilst watching the set piece routines of the enemy.

In all seriousness, surveillance capabilities being what they are nowadays, I’m amazed it doesn’t happen far more often, particularly in the Championship play offs where the prize money is off the scale.

I’d have thought Southampton might have invested in something a little more technologically robust than a spotty lad standing on a hill and filming it on his mobile…





No, I’m with you and have found the whole thing hilarious.

Here they are paying thousands a week to players and the best they can do is a pillock with a camera phone? For what? Inside knowledge that Middlesbrough might start with eleven players?

I suspect we will soon hear the whole thing was a load of nonsense.
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This could really hurt Saints - Boro club, manager and local press… on 00:21 - May 10 with 40 viewsunstableblue

… really doubling down and indeed escalating the story, accusations and the apparent damage done to the Boro team effectiveness

Saints media manager had to stop post match presser with their manager

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