| Starmer & political instability 20:50 - May 11 with 4999 views | Zx1988 |
If Starmer does end up either resigning or being pushed, I presume Novgorod Nigel's handlers will be rubbing their hands with glee, at having caused even more political instability in the UK, no? |  |
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| Starmer & political instability on 11:02 - May 14 with 753 views | DJR |
| Starmer & political instability on 08:58 - May 14 by WeWereZombies |
The most hated PM in British History ? I didn't think he had enough character for that...according to some. I certainly got a sense of dislike and disappointment about him when I was door knocking a couple of weeks ago but I think most of us can recall the visceral hatred some had, rightly or wrongly, for Margaret Thatcher and see that Starmer is a long way off that level of political engagement. |
I think you may well find the position in Scotland is different to that in England and Wales as is the case on many things (eg. working class people in Scotland much more likely to be Remainers). [Post edited 14 May 11:03]
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| Starmer & political instability on 11:48 - May 14 with 693 views | OldFart71 |
| Starmer & political instability on 15:48 - May 12 by Blueschev |
Why is he "Mad Ed"? Seems the only cabinet member that has any knowledge of their remit, or vision of how to carry it out. |
I suggest you compare your energy bills to that in other countries. The cost of energy is costing industry. Vehicles using petrol or diesel will still be on our roads by 2040.
Countries that produce oil and therefore grow their personal wealth won't stop pumping anytime soon.
It is costing far more to import oil and gas than producing it ourselves. Farmers are being forced out of their farms by policies that mean importing more food from elsewhere whilst Mad Ed insists he's reducing pollution by shipping windmills from China and solar panels that are produced using coal fired power stations.
It is madness to suggest global warming will stop with Mad Ed's policies. Whilst countries like America, China, India etc continue to pump greenhouse gases into the atmosphere and the pollution doesn't stop at our borders because of Millibands policy. | | | |
| Starmer & political instability on 11:52 - May 14 with 679 views | Benters |
| Starmer & political instability on 10:39 - May 14 by FoghornGleghorn |
I couldn't give a toss about Glassers' post, you have every right to think it was great, my question was nothing to do with that. I'm asking out of genuine curiosity what makes you think Nigel Farage is to be trusted, because I would love to understand what is driving people in this direction. But equally, feel free not to bother, "oh wise one", I'm pretty sure I know what I'm getting into. [Post edited 14 May 10:40]
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‘I couldn’t give a toss about Glassers post’ charming.
I believe Nigel Farage and Reform will make dear old Blighty great again. |  |
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| Starmer & political instability on 12:00 - May 14 with 653 views | Herbivore |
| Starmer & political instability on 11:52 - May 14 by Benters |
‘I couldn’t give a toss about Glassers post’ charming.
I believe Nigel Farage and Reform will make dear old Blighty great again. |
We know what you believe, the question being asked is why you believe someone who would have been on the side of the fascists back in the 1930s and who has shown time and again that he is dishonest and mainly out to make a quick buck is really the right person to lead the country and to make it better. |  |
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| Starmer & political instability on 12:05 - May 14 with 644 views | Herbivore |
| Starmer & political instability on 19:24 - May 12 by flykickingbybgunn |
Labour had less votes for them under Keir Starmer than they did a few years before under Corbyn. The difference was the votes for the right were split and so the FPTP system did the rest.
80% of the available voters did not vote for Labour. So those people need to be convinced.
It then all depends on if the Prime Minister wants to go for a socialist agenda and annoy those 80% or try to be re-elected and take a more centreist track.
You can tell which way he has chosen by last weeks vote. |
You seem to be suggesting that Starmer's Labour has been pursuing a socialist agenda. If so that's one of the wildest hot takes I've seen on TWTD. | |
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| Starmer & political instability on 12:14 - May 14 with 607 views | leitrimblue |
| Starmer & political instability on 12:05 - May 14 by Herbivore |
You seem to be suggesting that Starmer's Labour has been pursuing a socialist agenda. If so that's one of the wildest hot takes I've seen on TWTD. |
Have you not received yer grey Mao suit and bicycle yet? |  | | |
| Starmer & political instability on 12:37 - May 14 with 559 views | FoghornGleghorn |
| Starmer & political instability on 11:52 - May 14 by Benters |
‘I couldn’t give a toss about Glassers post’ charming.
I believe Nigel Farage and Reform will make dear old Blighty great again. |
Is that because he says that’s what he’ll do? Do you have some basis to believe he’ll do it just because he’s said he will, when he’s proven time and time again to be, at best, lying by omission, and at worst, bare-faced lying? | | | |
| Starmer & political instability on 12:49 - May 14 with 527 views | leitrimblue |
| Starmer & political instability on 12:37 - May 14 by FoghornGleghorn |
Is that because he says that’s what he’ll do? Do you have some basis to believe he’ll do it just because he’s said he will, when he’s proven time and time again to be, at best, lying by omission, and at worst, bare-faced lying? |
I have no interest in being seen as the spokes person for Reform.
But I think yer partly missing the point. I'm not sure the majority of Reform voters really believe that Nigels gonna make Britain great again. They just know that the 2 mainstream parties have failed to represent them or improve their lot.
They see Nig as at least cos played being able to relate to them. Many of um feel they have very little to lose by voting Reform while feck1n off much of the population who they believe have gained while they have been left behind.
Personally I think it's up to the 2 main parties to try everything they can to attempt to win back the trust of these people prior to the next election. Though I don't fancy their chances. [Post edited 14 May 12:51]
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| Starmer & political instability on 12:53 - May 14 with 510 views | Radlett_blue |
| Starmer & political instability on 12:49 - May 14 by leitrimblue |
I have no interest in being seen as the spokes person for Reform.
But I think yer partly missing the point. I'm not sure the majority of Reform voters really believe that Nigels gonna make Britain great again. They just know that the 2 mainstream parties have failed to represent them or improve their lot.
They see Nig as at least cos played being able to relate to them. Many of um feel they have very little to lose by voting Reform while feck1n off much of the population who they believe have gained while they have been left behind.
Personally I think it's up to the 2 main parties to try everything they can to attempt to win back the trust of these people prior to the next election. Though I don't fancy their chances. [Post edited 14 May 12:51]
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100% this. Most Reform supporters are fed up with the 2 main parties so feel they have little to lose by rolling the dice with Farage, who at least talks their kind of language, rather than modern political babble. In the same way, many of Trump's supporters in America don't think he necessarily has the answers. |  |
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| Starmer & political instability on 12:54 - May 14 with 498 views | Benters |
| Starmer & political instability on 12:37 - May 14 by FoghornGleghorn |
Is that because he says that’s what he’ll do? Do you have some basis to believe he’ll do it just because he’s said he will, when he’s proven time and time again to be, at best, lying by omission, and at worst, bare-faced lying? |
Two Tier promised a lot of things to,and people believed him.
He’s a waste of space. | |
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| Starmer & political instability on 12:59 - May 14 with 494 views | Blueschev |
| Starmer & political instability on 12:54 - May 14 by Benters |
Two Tier promised a lot of things to,and people believed him.
He’s a waste of space. |
"Two Tier" really didn't promise anything of substance. Why do people keep trotting out this line? It's just lazy. |  | | |
| Starmer & political instability on 13:00 - May 14 with 494 views | FoghornGleghorn |
| Starmer & political instability on 12:49 - May 14 by leitrimblue |
I have no interest in being seen as the spokes person for Reform.
But I think yer partly missing the point. I'm not sure the majority of Reform voters really believe that Nigels gonna make Britain great again. They just know that the 2 mainstream parties have failed to represent them or improve their lot.
They see Nig as at least cos played being able to relate to them. Many of um feel they have very little to lose by voting Reform while feck1n off much of the population who they believe have gained while they have been left behind.
Personally I think it's up to the 2 main parties to try everything they can to attempt to win back the trust of these people prior to the next election. Though I don't fancy their chances. [Post edited 14 May 12:51]
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I’m not missing any of the point, but I do agree with you. I’m just morbidly fascinated that people who do feel Labour isn’t representing them would gamble on someone openly dishonest to do it, when they have nothing but his dishonest word to base it on. It’s like jumping out of a plane without a parachute because sometimes people who jump out of a plane with a parachute still die. I’ve also got a grim suspicion I’m trying to disprove that a sizable majority of those who don’t feel represented are just being gaslit by sloganeers convincing them that wholesale political sea change can be made unrealistically quickly. | | | |
| Starmer & political instability on 13:02 - May 14 with 484 views | FoghornGleghorn |
| Starmer & political instability on 12:54 - May 14 by Benters |
Two Tier promised a lot of things to,and people believed him.
He’s a waste of space. |
That wasn’t the question. What do you believe he’s going to do that will “make dear old Blighty great again”? What did Starmer promise to improve for you that hasn’t been improved? (I’m genuinely grateful you’re engaging here, btw.) | | | |
| Starmer & political instability on 13:04 - May 14 with 466 views | Benters |
| Starmer & political instability on 12:59 - May 14 by Blueschev |
"Two Tier" really didn't promise anything of substance. Why do people keep trotting out this line? It's just lazy. |
Smash the gangs he definitely said that.
Release the sausages he also said that. | |
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| Starmer & political instability on 13:12 - May 14 with 447 views | SitfcB |
Media going to do their best to bring him down.
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| Starmer & political instability on 13:16 - May 14 with 426 views | FoghornGleghorn |
| Starmer & political instability on 13:04 - May 14 by Benters |
Smash the gangs he definitely said that.
Release the sausages he also said that. |
37% reduction in “small boat” crossings compared to last year. How quick and easy should “smashing the gangs” be? | | | |
| Starmer & political instability on 13:32 - May 14 with 397 views | DJR |
| Starmer & political instability on 13:12 - May 14 by SitfcB |
Media going to do their best to bring him down.
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I am not convinced personal attacks on him cut through where it matters.
All they seem to do is reinforce the view of many who don't support Reform that he is a wrong'un. [Post edited 14 May 13:33]
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| Starmer & political instability on 13:41 - May 14 with 377 views | Herbivore |
| Starmer & political instability on 13:12 - May 14 by SitfcB |
Media going to do their best to bring him down.
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Surely it's his actions that will bring him down rather than the media finally holding him to account for his actions after years of platforming and not challenging him? | |
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| Starmer & political instability on 13:43 - May 14 with 360 views | Herbivore |
| Starmer & political instability on 13:04 - May 14 by Benters |
Smash the gangs he definitely said that.
Release the sausages he also said that. |
Small boat crossings are down this year by quite a significant amount. I'm not sure he ever said he'd end them completely overnight and anyone promising that is promising something they can't deliver. Labour has done a lot to tackle immigration, far more than the Tories and their previous leaders, but it's still not enough for you. | |
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| Starmer & political instability on 13:53 - May 14 with 319 views | The_Major |
| Starmer & political instability on 13:43 - May 14 by Herbivore |
Small boat crossings are down this year by quite a significant amount. I'm not sure he ever said he'd end them completely overnight and anyone promising that is promising something they can't deliver. Labour has done a lot to tackle immigration, far more than the Tories and their previous leaders, but it's still not enough for you. |
And Lord Haw Haw knows this. Which is why hs focus is shifting more towards benefit claimants than the boats. He's always got to provide a bogeyman or he's done for. |  | | |
| Starmer & political instability on 14:00 - May 14 with 296 views | SitfcB |
| Starmer & political instability on 13:41 - May 14 by Herbivore |
Surely it's his actions that will bring him down rather than the media finally holding him to account for his actions after years of platforming and not challenging him? |
Well yes that as well really. I meant it more as in the media will give their best to put it out there etc, as they do for all politicians I guess, people deserve the truth.
Ole Nige denying though, what a shock.
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| Starmer & political instability on 14:03 - May 14 with 288 views | FoghornGleghorn |
| Starmer & political instability on 14:00 - May 14 by SitfcB |
Well yes that as well really. I meant it more as in the media will give their best to put it out there etc, as they do for all politicians I guess, people deserve the truth.
Ole Nige denying though, what a shock.
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Openly using Trump’s lingo now, the hero-worship and mimickry isn’t even just implied anymore. | | | |
| Starmer & political instability on 14:09 - May 14 with 269 views | redrickstuhaart |
| Starmer & political instability on 12:59 - May 14 by Blueschev |
"Two Tier" really didn't promise anything of substance. Why do people keep trotting out this line? It's just lazy. |
Waiting lists down in accordance with targets, growth is the best around.
Renters rights brought in after years of conservatives promising it and deliberately delaying.
etc.
But no- we are in the age of entitlement. What a snakey fellow Streeting is. So much for stability.
Its like sackign the manager 12 months into the job with a single transfer window behind him, at a time when the club has been penalised for past issues with a 12 point deduction and a transfer ban. | |
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| Starmer & political instability on 14:23 - May 14 with 232 views | vapour_trail |
| Starmer & political instability on 14:09 - May 14 by redrickstuhaart |
Waiting lists down in accordance with targets, growth is the best around.
Renters rights brought in after years of conservatives promising it and deliberately delaying.
etc.
But no- we are in the age of entitlement. What a snakey fellow Streeting is. So much for stability.
Its like sackign the manager 12 months into the job with a single transfer window behind him, at a time when the club has been penalised for past issues with a 12 point deduction and a transfer ban. |
We’ve had years of the tories peacocking around more bothered about their internal politics than the state of the nation.
Now we’ve more of the same from labour.
It’s hardly a surprise you’ve got these absolute chancers leading the polls. It’s very very depressing. |  |
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| Starmer & political instability on 15:04 - May 14 with 198 views | Benters |
| Starmer & political instability on 13:16 - May 14 by FoghornGleghorn |
37% reduction in “small boat” crossings compared to last year. How quick and easy should “smashing the gangs” be? |
I don’t believe it! | |
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