| sunderland in europe as it stands 16:54 - May 24 with 1491 views | positivity |
could they be the 3rd team we could finish above, much like our fall from fifth?
palace and forest haven't been as strong this year with the europe distraction
mind you, it could also give them extra funds and more reason to keep le bris, so maybe a good thing for them! |  |
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| sunderland in europe as it stands on 16:57 - May 24 with 1456 views | Joey_Joe_Joe_Junior |
I very much doubt it, it likely means their top performers will stay. |  |
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| sunderland in europe as it stands on 16:57 - May 24 with 1457 views | gainsboroughblue |
Wasn't there a story recently saying Sunderland were thinking of binning Le Bris? |  |
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| sunderland in europe as it stands on 16:58 - May 24 with 1447 views | Churchman |
Unless you are a top club with the resources that go with it, Europe is a major distraction. Something you don’t need. |  | | |
| sunderland in europe as it stands on 16:58 - May 24 with 1440 views | JimmyJazz |
Don't think it would be good for them in the long run |  |
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| sunderland in europe as it stands on 17:06 - May 24 with 1390 views | Joey_Joe_Joe_Junior |
| sunderland in europe as it stands on 16:57 - May 24 by gainsboroughblue |
Wasn't there a story recently saying Sunderland were thinking of binning Le Bris? |
I said before a ball was kicked on here last July this was a simply incredible window for a promoted side and thought they’d comfortably survive. Quite a few disagreed, tipped 20 something points and said they’d fall apart during the Africa cup of nations. However, this has bypassed even my expectations.
It isn’t the Premier League of 20-25 years ago, a ridiculous season.
At least everyone can see it so it hopefully lead to Ashton ripping his “model” from 2024. | |
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| sunderland in europe as it stands on 17:23 - May 24 with 1312 views | RetroBlue |
So, it can be done then! |  |
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| sunderland in europe as it stands on 17:24 - May 24 with 1302 views | positivity |
| sunderland in europe as it stands on 16:57 - May 24 by gainsboroughblue |
Wasn't there a story recently saying Sunderland were thinking of binning Le Bris? |
i think it was if they didn't qualify for europe, but don't believe they could be genuinely considering it! | |
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| sunderland in europe as it stands on 17:25 - May 24 with 1292 views | positivity |
| sunderland in europe as it stands on 17:23 - May 24 by RetroBlue |
So, it can be done then! |
yep, once every 20-odd years, it can! | |
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| sunderland in europe as it stands on 17:33 - May 24 with 1256 views | Churchman |
| sunderland in europe as it stands on 17:23 - May 24 by RetroBlue |
So, it can be done then! |
It can. But the credit goes to Sunderland, not contempt to the 20 odd years of teams that have tried and failed. It’s a terrific achievement. | | | |
| sunderland in europe as it stands on 17:37 - May 24 with 1243 views | TheBoyBlue |
| sunderland in europe as it stands on 17:06 - May 24 by Joey_Joe_Joe_Junior |
I said before a ball was kicked on here last July this was a simply incredible window for a promoted side and thought they’d comfortably survive. Quite a few disagreed, tipped 20 something points and said they’d fall apart during the Africa cup of nations. However, this has bypassed even my expectations.
It isn’t the Premier League of 20-25 years ago, a ridiculous season.
At least everyone can see it so it hopefully lead to Ashton ripping his “model” from 2024. |
I think a lot of us felt it was unfair to compare Sunderland this year with us of a couple of years ago as a kind of 'gotcha' moment (not necessarily from you). We did what we could in 2024 in the end. We had no overseas scouting network to speak of which is what we needed and our attempt to bring in Premier League experience with Phillips didn't work out. So we got in some of the best young Championship players which wasn't enough to keep us up but put us in a great position to go up again. Yet still we had a reasonably respectable first half the season.
Sunderland meanwhile were only a few years out of the PL and had everything in place. Still they have done fantastically well in recruitment and therefore a great season and I'm so pleased.
We should be in a better position than last time and therefore I'm hoping and expecting better from us this time. Whether it'll be enough to stay up I have no idea, but it would great to still be in with a chance of survival with a game or two left. | |
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| sunderland in europe as it stands on 17:44 - May 24 with 1194 views | Joey_Joe_Joe_Junior |
| sunderland in europe as it stands on 17:37 - May 24 by TheBoyBlue |
I think a lot of us felt it was unfair to compare Sunderland this year with us of a couple of years ago as a kind of 'gotcha' moment (not necessarily from you). We did what we could in 2024 in the end. We had no overseas scouting network to speak of which is what we needed and our attempt to bring in Premier League experience with Phillips didn't work out. So we got in some of the best young Championship players which wasn't enough to keep us up but put us in a great position to go up again. Yet still we had a reasonably respectable first half the season.
Sunderland meanwhile were only a few years out of the PL and had everything in place. Still they have done fantastically well in recruitment and therefore a great season and I'm so pleased.
We should be in a better position than last time and therefore I'm hoping and expecting better from us this time. Whether it'll be enough to stay up I have no idea, but it would great to still be in with a chance of survival with a game or two left. |
Some of that is valid some of it is completely overstated. A few years out of the PL? They were literally in league 1 more recently than the PL and at times in a bit of a mess. Documentary available.
It all changed when they got Régis Le Bris and his connections. You can’t tell Le Fee would have gone to another Champ club in January 2025. They also got a fantastic director of football and their recruitment had been elite. Too much made of them building towards it, it happened quite quickly with the appointments.
What was more annoying was Ashton sitting there on talksport telling us the model is literally exclusively “Young British players that have come through academies”
If spending 140M you’re limiting the talent pool far too much with that. Word on the street is that it will be different this time. [Post edited 24 May 17:45]
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| sunderland in europe as it stands on 18:34 - May 24 with 1023 views | Churchman |
| sunderland in europe as it stands on 17:44 - May 24 by Joey_Joe_Joe_Junior |
Some of that is valid some of it is completely overstated. A few years out of the PL? They were literally in league 1 more recently than the PL and at times in a bit of a mess. Documentary available.
It all changed when they got Régis Le Bris and his connections. You can’t tell Le Fee would have gone to another Champ club in January 2025. They also got a fantastic director of football and their recruitment had been elite. Too much made of them building towards it, it happened quite quickly with the appointments.
What was more annoying was Ashton sitting there on talksport telling us the model is literally exclusively “Young British players that have come through academies”
If spending 140M you’re limiting the talent pool far too much with that. Word on the street is that it will be different this time. [Post edited 24 May 17:45]
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Sunderland should not a stick to beat ITFC up with. We are not them and visa versa. Too many people because of their peculiar hatreds towards the club, CEO, players and manager are doing just that. It’s poisonous and there seems a cadre that can’t wait for us to fail, whether it’s hounding players, calling for the manager to go or anything else.
It’s simple. The vast majority of promoted clubs in the last couple of decades have struggled to stay in the PL first time of asking or even second or third. It’s how it is. It’s not easy otherwise we’d be the exception, not Sunderland. Congratulations to Sunderland for being just that. Leeds too who were poor today but let’s face it, on the beach.
In recent decades they’ve spent a lot of it in the Premier League. Ten straight seasons to 2017 and plenty before that.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/
That means their understanding of it and infrastructure supporting including football ground, training, youth system etc (we gave up on ours, scouting network, community, lightbulbs, the lot) was far better than ours even if they hadn’t been in it for nine years.
They have a manager who has done an exceptional job with good contacts too. He deserves the credit. Why bring ITFC into it? To put the boot in. Fair enough, freedom of speech. I just think it’s both unfair and the wrong time.
Today is about the teams in the Premier League that succeeded and failed and Bolton’s smashing performance at Wembley. | | | |
| sunderland in europe as it stands on 18:43 - May 24 with 950 views | Joey_Joe_Joe_Junior |
| sunderland in europe as it stands on 18:34 - May 24 by Churchman |
Sunderland should not a stick to beat ITFC up with. We are not them and visa versa. Too many people because of their peculiar hatreds towards the club, CEO, players and manager are doing just that. It’s poisonous and there seems a cadre that can’t wait for us to fail, whether it’s hounding players, calling for the manager to go or anything else.
It’s simple. The vast majority of promoted clubs in the last couple of decades have struggled to stay in the PL first time of asking or even second or third. It’s how it is. It’s not easy otherwise we’d be the exception, not Sunderland. Congratulations to Sunderland for being just that. Leeds too who were poor today but let’s face it, on the beach.
In recent decades they’ve spent a lot of it in the Premier League. Ten straight seasons to 2017 and plenty before that.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/
That means their understanding of it and infrastructure supporting including football ground, training, youth system etc (we gave up on ours, scouting network, community, lightbulbs, the lot) was far better than ours even if they hadn’t been in it for nine years.
They have a manager who has done an exceptional job with good contacts too. He deserves the credit. Why bring ITFC into it? To put the boot in. Fair enough, freedom of speech. I just think it’s both unfair and the wrong time.
Today is about the teams in the Premier League that succeeded and failed and Bolton’s smashing performance at Wembley. |
Jesus Christ you don’t half go over the top sometimes!
Loads of people from journalists to fans have acknowledged and discussed there were questions regarding elements of our recruitment and general strategy surrounding it. A few teams have provided the blueprint, which backs up one some people have been suggesting so people are probably going to talk about it again because WE are now back in the PL.
Hatred? I have no idea what you’re banging on about. Your mini drawn out rants when anyone is making a point are so starting to get a bit ridiculous quite frankly. | |
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| sunderland in europe as it stands on 18:47 - May 24 with 915 views | football |
This pains me - as a student in Newcastle I learned to hate Sunderland and still do | | | |
| sunderland in europe as it stands on 18:52 - May 24 with 881 views | TRUE_BLUE123 |
Elite recruitment.
You have to be inventive you have to find the right profiles. They did that and then some.
We can do the same and then the sky is the limit. |  |
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| sunderland in europe as it stands on 19:16 - May 24 with 830 views | algy |
Good to see a more diverse set of 7 clubs qualifying for Europe, only one London unless Palace win the Conf, unfortunately the usual 3 from Lancashire, but 3 from the east and south coasts. Good also that among the 3 promoted to the PL we have us and one from east Yorks replacing Lancastrians and Londoners. Still have half the league from Lancs or London though, was just 6 when I first watched us under Bobby R. [Post edited 24 May 19:26]
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| sunderland in europe as it stands on 19:20 - May 24 with 807 views | Churchman |
| sunderland in europe as it stands on 18:47 - May 24 by football |
This pains me - as a student in Newcastle I learned to hate Sunderland and still do |
I’ve two chums who are Mackems, two who are geordies, one of which was getting ratarsd at Fulham today. They have met but don’t know each other - probably a good thing! So I’m pleased for both of them when their teams do well. | | | |
| sunderland in europe as it stands on 19:31 - May 24 with 745 views | Vic |
What an achievement for them.
Wish them all the best. |  |
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| sunderland in europe as it stands on 19:34 - May 24 with 730 views | Churchman |
| sunderland in europe as it stands on 18:43 - May 24 by Joey_Joe_Joe_Junior |
Jesus Christ you don’t half go over the top sometimes!
Loads of people from journalists to fans have acknowledged and discussed there were questions regarding elements of our recruitment and general strategy surrounding it. A few teams have provided the blueprint, which backs up one some people have been suggesting so people are probably going to talk about it again because WE are now back in the PL.
Hatred? I have no idea what you’re banging on about. Your mini drawn out rants when anyone is making a point are so starting to get a bit ridiculous quite frankly. |
Sorry, I didn’t realise that everything you post is not to be questioned or challenged. I’ll try and remember in future.
And my name isn’t Jesus Christ. | | | |
| sunderland in europe as it stands on 20:50 - May 24 with 540 views | FrimleyBlue |
| sunderland in europe as it stands on 16:58 - May 24 by Churchman |
Unless you are a top club with the resources that go with it, Europe is a major distraction. Something you don’t need. |
Wouldn't suprise me at some point tho if the prem ups squad limits to 30. |  |
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