| If McKenna does leave us 10:38 - Jun 4 with 1803 views | MalcolmBlue |
Does anyone think the Farage debacle could have something to do with it?
Because personally I think it definitely wouldn’t have helped. |  |
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| If McKenna does leave us on 10:45 - Jun 4 with 1571 views | Swoody |
No not at all. |  | | |
| If McKenna does leave us on 10:49 - Jun 4 with 1547 views | TRUE_BLUE123 |
No. Cant imagine Mckenna was very happy it happened but if he leaves its not because of that. |  |
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| If McKenna does leave us on 10:51 - Jun 4 with 1516 views | MalcolmBlue |
| If McKenna does leave us on 10:49 - Jun 4 by TRUE_BLUE123 |
No. Cant imagine Mckenna was very happy it happened but if he leaves its not because of that. |
Not because of it, but as a factor. | |
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| If McKenna does leave us on 10:56 - Jun 4 with 1497 views | TheGentlemanViking |
Definitely not, he's smarter than that. A mistake like that incident shouldn't be enough to influence or impact the job he does at the club.
If it did, he should probably give Fulham a swerve based on the continuing Al-Fayed investigations and the outspoken and somewhat volatile media messes that the Khan's have a reputation for delivering! |  | | |
| If McKenna does leave us on 11:18 - Jun 4 with 1375 views | Guthrum |
Very much doubt it. |  |
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| If McKenna does leave us on 11:25 - Jun 4 with 1301 views | franz_tyson |
I think a lot of people want it to be the case. | | | |
| If McKenna does leave us on 11:27 - Jun 4 with 1298 views | LandOfMickyStockwell |
No.
Go and watch the Town in Added Time for the promotion, then see McKenna's speech to the assembled staff. He has a massive amount of love and respect for the club.
Any move will be about looking forward. |  | | |
| If McKenna does leave us on 13:00 - Jun 4 with 1050 views | SamWhiteUK |
| If McKenna does leave us on 10:51 - Jun 4 by MalcolmBlue |
Not because of it, but as a factor. |
We wouldn't ever know, and the end result would be the same anyway. What are you hoping to gain from starting this thread? |  | | |
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| If McKenna does leave us on 14:24 - Jun 4 with 900 views | MalcolmBlue |
| If McKenna does leave us on 13:00 - Jun 4 by SamWhiteUK |
We wouldn't ever know, and the end result would be the same anyway. What are you hoping to gain from starting this thread? |
Reassurance mainly, I don’t want him to go and I’d hate to think that it played even 1% in his decision to leave. The consensus seems like it’s not the case, which is a relief for me. | |
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| If McKenna does leave us on 14:39 - Jun 4 with 825 views | darkhorse28 |
If your boss told someone if you didn’t achieve a shared goal; you’d be sacked, and that person told the world - would it impact your relationship with them?
I’m not sure the politics will impact. It’s nothing to do with football, but trust, respect, integrity, around all the obvious lies (when’s the others arriving again?).
So yes.
It’s going to have some impact. Enough to decide a move or not, who knows, maybe not, but some impact for sure.
It’s obvious from both sides some trust and respect has gone.
I think you’d need to factor the other way too.., you’d have to assume Ashton went to HUGE lengths to secure a £5 million salary and £200 million gross investment, it’s obvious (in spit of public appearances) that the owners were sold a base case of staying up - and not 22 points and promotion by 1 point to warrant that level of spending.
So I think trust has been creeping out of their relationship for a while .., ego, blame game, self interest, it happens in these environments after a while if goals are missed.
But yes. Ashton looked like a poor decision maker.., I’d think McKenna probably knows talent ID isn’t his own biggest strength too, and it’s a massive weakness of Ashton.
Lots of factors - all conflate to him likely moving if he gets a good offer I’d say.
Let’s take the opportunity for growth, be thankful for the success, and see it as a chance to do even better - chase that’s what it is.
Ashton being Ashton.., that will continue to be a headwind for our next phase of development I’d think.
But even that could be a blessing, the Farage gate was a big wake up call for the owners in indexing the club to just one person…, I think they’ve recognised that. And the risks.
We might look back at Farage gate as the start of us actually making some tough decisions to grow.., perhaps a huge blessing because it exposed our flaws and weaknesses beautifully. | | | |
| If McKenna does leave us on 15:01 - Jun 4 with 772 views | LandOfMickyStockwell |
| If McKenna does leave us on 14:24 - Jun 4 by MalcolmBlue |
Reassurance mainly, I don’t want him to go and I’d hate to think that it played even 1% in his decision to leave. The consensus seems like it’s not the case, which is a relief for me. |
If you'd "hate" that 1%, how would you feel about the other 99% of reasons? Is there a stronger emotion for those, or is "hate" just a turn of phrase? | | | |
| If McKenna does leave us on 15:04 - Jun 4 with 760 views | ITFCson |
You are assuming McKenna is not a supporter of Farage.
If you want to speculate that it could be a factor in him leaving then for balance you ought to speculate that if he is a Farage fan then that could be a factor in him staying.
But of course it would not be a factor either way. | | | |
| If McKenna does leave us on 15:36 - Jun 4 with 702 views | MalcolmBlue |
| If McKenna does leave us on 15:01 - Jun 4 by LandOfMickyStockwell |
If you'd "hate" that 1%, how would you feel about the other 99% of reasons? Is there a stronger emotion for those, or is "hate" just a turn of phrase? |
I don’t really get your point, what are you asking exactly?
Are you trying to ask for my opinion on the Farage situation, even though I called it a “debacle” in my initial post? | |
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| If McKenna does leave us on 15:49 - Jun 4 with 666 views | Churchman |
I’d imagine the distraction was irritating but I doubt Farage’s visit would have anything to do with it. But only McKenna can answer that.
I’d say hostility by a percentage of the supporters towards him and the team is far more likely to have something to do with it, but again it’s a question for KM and for us, who knows.
However, he’s a very professional and ambitious man and should he go it’ll be because he’ll feel his work and time here is done. That it’s time for the next challenge and next step up towards the elite six. |  | | |
| If McKenna does leave us on 15:52 - Jun 4 with 644 views | MalcolmBlue |
| If McKenna does leave us on 15:49 - Jun 4 by Churchman |
I’d imagine the distraction was irritating but I doubt Farage’s visit would have anything to do with it. But only McKenna can answer that.
I’d say hostility by a percentage of the supporters towards him and the team is far more likely to have something to do with it, but again it’s a question for KM and for us, who knows.
However, he’s a very professional and ambitious man and should he go it’ll be because he’ll feel his work and time here is done. That it’s time for the next challenge and next step up towards the elite six. |
Totally fair points | |
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| If McKenna does leave us on 15:54 - Jun 4 with 637 views | Swansea_Blue |
No, although McKenna is stronger on the left wing these days. He was fairly balanced and had a strong right wing presence as well a year or two ago, but these days he’s definitely more left wing focussed. I’d argue he was also a bit of a centrist a couple of seasons ago too, but like many he’s moved more to the margins and mostly towards the left. |  |
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| If McKenna does leave us on 15:55 - Jun 4 with 632 views | FrimleyBlue |
| If McKenna does leave us on 15:52 - Jun 4 by MalcolmBlue |
Totally fair points |
Considering there are plenty of fulham fans not keen on KM. If he did go and had a soell of poor form etc it wouldnt be long before he feels the hostility of the fulham fans. Church has quite often this season commented about how hostile its been at PR. If KM cant deal with PR levels of hostility i dont see him dealing with clubs who actually has a hostile environment. |  |
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| If McKenna does leave us on 16:07 - Jun 4 with 602 views | Churchman |
| If McKenna does leave us on 15:55 - Jun 4 by FrimleyBlue |
Considering there are plenty of fulham fans not keen on KM. If he did go and had a soell of poor form etc it wouldnt be long before he feels the hostility of the fulham fans. Church has quite often this season commented about how hostile its been at PR. If KM cant deal with PR levels of hostility i dont see him dealing with clubs who actually has a hostile environment. |
If he were to go to Fulham or say Palace he’d get 100% support.
The supporters at PR have not been hostile to him to my ear, though they have to certain players. Outside of the football ground, they have and I mention it because he mentioned it. | | | |
| If McKenna does leave us on 16:17 - Jun 4 with 552 views | Blueschev |
| If McKenna does leave us on 15:04 - Jun 4 by ITFCson |
You are assuming McKenna is not a supporter of Farage.
If you want to speculate that it could be a factor in him leaving then for balance you ought to speculate that if he is a Farage fan then that could be a factor in him staying.
But of course it would not be a factor either way. |
Mckenna always comes across as a very intelligent man. On that basis I'd be amazed if he was a supporter of Farage. |  | | |
| If McKenna does leave us on 16:20 - Jun 4 with 546 views | Churchman |
| If McKenna does leave us on 16:17 - Jun 4 by Blueschev |
Mckenna always comes across as a very intelligent man. On that basis I'd be amazed if he was a supporter of Farage. |
If i was a betting dude, which I’m not, my money would be in him like many people not being the slightest bit interested in politics or politicians. | | | |
| If McKenna does leave us on 16:30 - Jun 4 with 512 views | SuperKieranMcKenna |
No - there are far worse owners/CEO’s than Ashton, e.g the Saudi’s and Qatari’s don’t have trouble attracting big name managers with their awful politics. Same with Ratcliffe at United, think that while embarrassing, Farage-gate is overcooked on here. I’d have forgotten about it other than TWTD, and most non Town supporters I spoke to at the time weren’t even aware of it. | | | |
| If McKenna does leave us on 16:33 - Jun 4 with 488 views | FrimleyBlue |
| If McKenna does leave us on 16:07 - Jun 4 by Churchman |
If he were to go to Fulham or say Palace he’d get 100% support.
The supporters at PR have not been hostile to him to my ear, though they have to certain players. Outside of the football ground, they have and I mention it because he mentioned it. |
And it happens at all football clubs its not unique to itfc. We are one of the most placid support bases out there. | |
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| If McKenna does leave us on 16:37 - Jun 4 with 471 views | lazyblue |
No , pathetic to even think that . | | | |
| If McKenna does leave us on 16:39 - Jun 4 with 466 views | LeoMuff |
We will never know, could be Kmac is a Farage fan and it was something he was fully on board with, could be he finds Reform abhorrent and it seriously influences his decision.
From what we have seen of Kmac it will be purely based on what best for him, his family, and career prospects, he seems so level headed I would be surprised if it impacts him much. But who knows. |  |
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| If McKenna does leave us on 17:16 - Jun 4 with 411 views | positivity |
i'm sure the twitter images of him inspecting the team (ss officer watching goose-stepping nazis) wouldn't have been a welcome distraction.
however, he's an ambitious man, and no way will it be the biggest factor* if he moves on to a more established prem club
*unless his get-out clause, includes not allowing itfc to let his dressing room to be used as propaganda by a "raging" quasi-fascist. would've taken a fair bit of foresight for that one! | |
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