| Never a red 21:50 - Jun 11 with 703 views | grow_our_own |
Is obstruction no longer a foul? South African had every right to robustly get the obstructor out of his way. |  | | |  |
| Never a red on 21:51 - Jun 11 with 664 views | redrickstuhaart |
Disgraceful.
Blatant obstruction and a typical brush off. Nothing violent or intentional, just the usual tussling.
Are refs going to ruin this WC as much as America has? 2 awful reds in favour of a host nation against Africans.... | |
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| Never a red on 21:51 - Jun 11 with 659 views | Illinoisblue |
Very harsh. |  |
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| Never a red on 21:52 - Jun 11 with 635 views | lowhouseblue |
ridiculous. |  |
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| Never a red on 21:53 - Jun 11 with 598 views | tractor_lady |
Im sorry if thats a red most games in England would end 5 a side! what a terrible decision which was compounded by the play acting by the Mexican! | | | |
| Never a red on 21:53 - Jun 11 with 599 views | BackToRussia |
He did slap him, so.... |  |
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| Never a red on 21:55 - Jun 11 with 557 views | GeoffSentence |
Obstruction doesn't seem to be a thing anymore. I've been questioning that for the last few seasons, players get away with blatant obstruction every week.
An indirect free kick to South Africa would have been the right outcome there if the obstruction law was properly applied. No way shuold it have been a red. |  |
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| Never a red on 21:56 - Jun 11 with 536 views | Nthsuffolkblue |
| Never a red on 21:53 - Jun 11 by BackToRussia |
He did slap him, so.... |
He did which is why, once VAR got involved, it had to be a red. However, it was very harsh. Could be argued it was a natural hand movement with no real force or intent. [Post edited 11 Jun 21:56]
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| Never a red on 21:59 - Jun 11 with 497 views | redrickstuhaart |
| Never a red on 21:56 - Jun 11 by Nthsuffolkblue |
He did which is why, once VAR got involved, it had to be a red. However, it was very harsh. Could be argued it was a natural hand movement with no real force or intent. [Post edited 11 Jun 21:56]
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He really didnt. It was a brushing off. Not violent, just trying to disentangle having been obstructed.
Pathetic decision and I seriously question the veracity of refereeing in this tournament already. The first red was awful too- was a dive. | |
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| Never a red on 22:00 - Jun 11 with 466 views | BackToRussia |
| Never a red on 21:56 - Jun 11 by Nthsuffolkblue |
He did which is why, once VAR got involved, it had to be a red. However, it was very harsh. Could be argued it was a natural hand movement with no real force or intent. [Post edited 11 Jun 21:56]
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Didn't look particularly natural to me, because he had to reach up to hit his face. A more natural movement would have been to grab a shoulder or somewhere lower. I think it was a foul initially against SA but violent conduct presumably overrules that. He didn't react particularly strongly, either! | |
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| Never a red on 22:00 - Jun 11 with 466 views | Zx1988 |
| Never a red on 21:59 - Jun 11 by redrickstuhaart |
He really didnt. It was a brushing off. Not violent, just trying to disentangle having been obstructed.
Pathetic decision and I seriously question the veracity of refereeing in this tournament already. The first red was awful too- was a dive. |
Don't worry - they've just proved that they're definitely not favouring Mexico. | |
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| Never a red on 22:01 - Jun 11 with 465 views | Marshalls_Mullet |
| Never a red on 21:56 - Jun 11 by Nthsuffolkblue |
He did which is why, once VAR got involved, it had to be a red. However, it was very harsh. Could be argued it was a natural hand movement with no real force or intent. [Post edited 11 Jun 21:56]
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It might look like a slap when it's zoomed in, in super slow motion, and narrative is added.
In real time, I'm not sure that's an intentional slap in the face.
It's nonsense
Slow mo and zooming in shouldn't be allowed |  |
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| Never a red on 22:01 - Jun 11 with 456 views | Marshalls_Mullet |
| Never a red on 21:59 - Jun 11 by redrickstuhaart |
He really didnt. It was a brushing off. Not violent, just trying to disentangle having been obstructed.
Pathetic decision and I seriously question the veracity of refereeing in this tournament already. The first red was awful too- was a dive. |
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| Never a red on 22:03 - Jun 11 with 439 views | BackToRussia |
| Never a red on 22:01 - Jun 11 by Marshalls_Mullet |
It might look like a slap when it's zoomed in, in super slow motion, and narrative is added.
In real time, I'm not sure that's an intentional slap in the face.
It's nonsense
Slow mo and zooming in shouldn't be allowed |
It's almost as if viewing things in detail gives you a more accurate and considered view on things than in real time from a certain angle. | |
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| Never a red on 22:04 - Jun 11 with 427 views | redrickstuhaart |
| Never a red on 22:03 - Jun 11 by BackToRussia |
It's almost as if viewing things in detail gives you a more accurate and considered view on things than in real time from a certain angle. |
Its also a way to make things look very different to the realtime reality. | |
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| Never a red on 22:05 - Jun 11 with 403 views | Marshalls_Mullet |
| Never a red on 22:03 - Jun 11 by BackToRussia |
It's almost as if viewing things in detail gives you a more accurate and considered view on things than in real time from a certain angle. |
That's nonsense though. It actually gives a false impression of how thinks actually happened.
In slow mo, something that happened in a instant, unintentionally suddenly looks considered and intentional.
Utter nonsense | |
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| Never a red on 22:05 - Jun 11 with 384 views | Marshalls_Mullet |
| Never a red on 22:04 - Jun 11 by redrickstuhaart |
Its also a way to make things look very different to the realtime reality. |
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| Never a red on 22:06 - Jun 11 with 356 views | BackToRussia |
| Never a red on 22:05 - Jun 11 by Marshalls_Mullet |
That's nonsense though. It actually gives a false impression of how thinks actually happened.
In slow mo, something that happened in a instant, unintentionally suddenly looks considered and intentional.
Utter nonsense |
People do make intentional movements very quickly tho. How long does it take to decide to hit someone and then do it? Less than a second. | |
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| Never a red on 22:08 - Jun 11 with 316 views | Trequartista |
I don't know why they just can't get on with the game without having these VAR theatrics
The Mexican red was even worse and then some yank woman starts talking technical gibberish to try and justify it and you realise her sole purpose is just to support the referee. |  |
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| Never a red on 22:11 - Jun 11 with 286 views | Marshalls_Mullet |
| Never a red on 22:06 - Jun 11 by BackToRussia |
People do make intentional movements very quickly tho. How long does it take to decide to hit someone and then do it? Less than a second. |
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| Never a red on 22:11 - Jun 11 with 287 views | Nthsuffolkblue |
| Never a red on 22:06 - Jun 11 by BackToRussia |
People do make intentional movements very quickly tho. How long does it take to decide to hit someone and then do it? Less than a second. |
At full speed, to me, it looks like he is wrestling to get the player out of his way and his hand misses his shoulder and contacts his face. There is little force and no clear intent.
I don't see why VAR felt the need to get involved. Had the referee seen it in real time and felt differently, I don't think VAR would have needed to get involved either. However, it didn't look at all violent to me. | |
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| Never a red on 22:12 - Jun 11 with 285 views | Marshalls_Mullet |
| Never a red on 22:08 - Jun 11 by Trequartista |
I don't know why they just can't get on with the game without having these VAR theatrics
The Mexican red was even worse and then some yank woman starts talking technical gibberish to try and justify it and you realise her sole purpose is just to support the referee. |
Not sure on what basis VAR got involved. | |
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| Never a red on 22:15 - Jun 11 with 261 views | Marshalls_Mullet |
| Never a red on 22:11 - Jun 11 by Nthsuffolkblue |
At full speed, to me, it looks like he is wrestling to get the player out of his way and his hand misses his shoulder and contacts his face. There is little force and no clear intent.
I don't see why VAR felt the need to get involved. Had the referee seen it in real time and felt differently, I don't think VAR would have needed to get involved either. However, it didn't look at all violent to me. |
Yup.
But with super slow mo, zoom and some narrative, VAR can make it look deliberate.
Not sure on what basis VAR got involved. | |
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| Never a red on 22:17 - Jun 11 with 248 views | Nthsuffolkblue |
| Never a red on 22:15 - Jun 11 by Marshalls_Mullet |
Yup.
But with super slow mo, zoom and some narrative, VAR can make it look deliberate.
Not sure on what basis VAR got involved. |
I really don't like Roy Keane but his comment just now summed it up. "It must have been a bad slap because he was knocked out on the ground for 5 minutes!" | |
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