| Any chance it's not O'Neil? 08:56 - Jun 22 with 5284 views | BiGDonnie |
Keeping my fingers crossed... |  |
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| Any chance it's not O'Neil? on 11:08 - Jun 22 with 1196 views | Gary_Knows |
| Any chance it's not O'Neil? on 09:37 - Jun 22 by BiGDonnie |
It's a completely uninspiring choice and his record sucks in the Premier League. Hasn't managed to do more than a year at a club and seemingly can't control his players.
The fact we've gone for someone with a 30% managerial win record is criminal.
In my humble opinion of course. |
30% win rate which is 20% more than McKenna. |  |
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| Any chance it's not O'Neil? on 11:13 - Jun 22 with 1174 views | BiGDonnie |
| Any chance it's not O'Neil? on 11:08 - Jun 22 by Gary_Knows |
30% win rate which is 20% more than McKenna. |
Let's not be silly and judge Mckenna's first attempt at the Prem with a league one side.
Absolute lightyears between the two | |
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| Any chance it's not O'Neil? on 11:19 - Jun 22 with 1141 views | tractorboy1978 |
| Any chance it's not O'Neil? on 11:13 - Jun 22 by BiGDonnie |
Let's not be silly and judge Mckenna's first attempt at the Prem with a league one side.
Absolute lightyears between the two |
He didn't have a L1 side though. That is just a ridiculous comment. It was a top Championship side with a a handful of PL quality players.
If O'Neil maintains his 31% PL win record then we will win 12 games and stay up, so that is fine by me. |  | | |
| Any chance it's not O'Neil? on 11:20 - Jun 22 with 1147 views | franz_tyson |
I bet Blue Monday are praying its O'Neil.
Last night they did a very gushy appraisal of GON. TBF, Joe was early on supporting him, but Bloom has done a 180. I can get it .... but think they went too overboard on the pragmatism.
Yeah, I want survival but can we have a bit of fun and entertainment along the way as well. Survival isn't everything and we don't want to lose all the good feel. | | | |
| Any chance it's not O'Neil? on 11:22 - Jun 22 with 1126 views | Gary_Knows |
| Any chance it's not O'Neil? on 11:13 - Jun 22 by BiGDonnie |
Let's not be silly and judge Mckenna's first attempt at the Prem with a league one side.
Absolute lightyears between the two |
Yes, a really expensively assembled £150m League 1 team. | |
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| Any chance it's not O'Neil? on 11:25 - Jun 22 with 1094 views | GavTWTD |
| Any chance it's not O'Neil? on 11:20 - Jun 22 by franz_tyson |
I bet Blue Monday are praying its O'Neil.
Last night they did a very gushy appraisal of GON. TBF, Joe was early on supporting him, but Bloom has done a 180. I can get it .... but think they went too overboard on the pragmatism.
Yeah, I want survival but can we have a bit of fun and entertainment along the way as well. Survival isn't everything and we don't want to lose all the good feel. |
If we survive this season then I can't really see that happening without some fun and excitement to be honest. It's what would happen after that but let's play out this season first. |  |
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| Any chance it's not O'Neil? on 11:27 - Jun 22 with 1078 views | tractorboy1978 |
| Any chance it's not O'Neil? on 11:20 - Jun 22 by franz_tyson |
I bet Blue Monday are praying its O'Neil.
Last night they did a very gushy appraisal of GON. TBF, Joe was early on supporting him, but Bloom has done a 180. I can get it .... but think they went too overboard on the pragmatism.
Yeah, I want survival but can we have a bit of fun and entertainment along the way as well. Survival isn't everything and we don't want to lose all the good feel. |
O'Neil doesn't exactly play Pulis-ball does he? | | | |
| Any chance it's not O'Neil? on 11:29 - Jun 22 with 1071 views | BiGDonnie |
| Any chance it's not O'Neil? on 11:22 - Jun 22 by Gary_Knows |
Yes, a really expensively assembled £150m League 1 team. |
All but 4 of the 11 that started against Liverpool were with us in League one. | |
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| Any chance it's not O'Neil? on 11:31 - Jun 22 with 1052 views | Gary_Knows |
| Any chance it's not O'Neil? on 11:29 - Jun 22 by BiGDonnie |
All but 4 of the 11 that started against Liverpool were with us in League one. |
Some cherry picking. I’d be interested to see the statistics from the remaining 37 games. | |
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| Any chance it's not O'Neil? on 11:33 - Jun 22 with 1030 views | Vaughan8 |
| Any chance it's not O'Neil? on 11:31 - Jun 22 by Gary_Knows |
Some cherry picking. I’d be interested to see the statistics from the remaining 37 games. |
Yeah but he needs to make his point so has to cherry pick the first game....... | | | |
| Any chance it's not O'Neil? on 11:46 - Jun 22 with 986 views | lowhouseblue |
| Any chance it's not O'Neil? on 11:20 - Jun 22 by franz_tyson |
I bet Blue Monday are praying its O'Neil.
Last night they did a very gushy appraisal of GON. TBF, Joe was early on supporting him, but Bloom has done a 180. I can get it .... but think they went too overboard on the pragmatism.
Yeah, I want survival but can we have a bit of fun and entertainment along the way as well. Survival isn't everything and we don't want to lose all the good feel. |
in terms of the club progressing, survival next season really is everything. |  |
| And so as the loose-bowelled pigeon of time swoops low over the unsuspecting tourist of destiny, and the flatulent skunk of fate wanders into the air-conditioning system of eternity, I notice it's the end of the show |
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| Any chance it's not O'Neil? on 11:49 - Jun 22 with 964 views | WeWereZombies |
| Any chance it's not O'Neil? on 10:30 - Jun 22 by wkj |
Any chance of other managers are well and truly GON |
So not George 'Oh I Never' Graham... |  |
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| Any chance it's not O'Neil? on 11:56 - Jun 22 with 912 views | portmanking |
| Any chance it's not O'Neil? on 11:27 - Jun 22 by tractorboy1978 |
O'Neil doesn't exactly play Pulis-ball does he? |
I think that's where the problem lies: he doesn't really have any sense of identity to his approach.
We've gone from hiring a manager with crystal clear principles to one who's just going to condense the middle of the pitch and hope we can be good enough to nick some goals on transitions. I mean, it's not hard to see why a large percentage of fans are bemused and deflated at this, surely?
If we're going down the hard to beat '17th at all costs' route why on earth *didn't* we seriously consider Dyche?! [Post edited 22 Jun 11:56]
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| Any chance it's not O'Neil? on 12:00 - Jun 22 with 863 views | WeWereZombies |
| Any chance it's not O'Neil? on 11:56 - Jun 22 by portmanking |
I think that's where the problem lies: he doesn't really have any sense of identity to his approach.
We've gone from hiring a manager with crystal clear principles to one who's just going to condense the middle of the pitch and hope we can be good enough to nick some goals on transitions. I mean, it's not hard to see why a large percentage of fans are bemused and deflated at this, surely?
If we're going down the hard to beat '17th at all costs' route why on earth *didn't* we seriously consider Dyche?! [Post edited 22 Jun 11:56]
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Because there is more chance of O'Neill constructively improving as a manager in terms of results and style of play than there is with Dyche. | |
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| Any chance it's not O'Neil? on 12:01 - Jun 22 with 851 views | BiGDonnie |
| Any chance it's not O'Neil? on 11:56 - Jun 22 by portmanking |
I think that's where the problem lies: he doesn't really have any sense of identity to his approach.
We've gone from hiring a manager with crystal clear principles to one who's just going to condense the middle of the pitch and hope we can be good enough to nick some goals on transitions. I mean, it's not hard to see why a large percentage of fans are bemused and deflated at this, surely?
If we're going down the hard to beat '17th at all costs' route why on earth *didn't* we seriously consider Dyche?! [Post edited 22 Jun 11:56]
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I'd have Dyche over GON all day long. | |
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| Any chance it's not O'Neil? on 12:06 - Jun 22 with 804 views | portmanking |
| Any chance it's not O'Neil? on 12:00 - Jun 22 by WeWereZombies |
Because there is more chance of O'Neill constructively improving as a manager in terms of results and style of play than there is with Dyche. |
Is there, though? O'Neil's track record is streaky at best i.e. starts well and fades fast. None of his previous employers seemingly believed that he could turn things around either.
Even Strasbourg fans aren't overly fussed about losing him. They feel he fumbled a serious shot at direct European qualification in Ligue 1.
We've kept our fingers on the pulse of the managerial market and conducted a global search effort this month and ended up with this. Confuses me more as the days drift by. I support the club. I will want us and O'Neil to do well, but there's not even 10% of me that's convinced he's the right man for the position or to replace McKenna. I know it's raised one or two eyebrows in the squad. [Post edited 22 Jun 12:07]
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| Any chance it's not O'Neil? on 12:14 - Jun 22 with 759 views | WeWereZombies |
| Any chance it's not O'Neil? on 12:06 - Jun 22 by portmanking |
Is there, though? O'Neil's track record is streaky at best i.e. starts well and fades fast. None of his previous employers seemingly believed that he could turn things around either.
Even Strasbourg fans aren't overly fussed about losing him. They feel he fumbled a serious shot at direct European qualification in Ligue 1.
We've kept our fingers on the pulse of the managerial market and conducted a global search effort this month and ended up with this. Confuses me more as the days drift by. I support the club. I will want us and O'Neil to do well, but there's not even 10% of me that's convinced he's the right man for the position or to replace McKenna. I know it's raised one or two eyebrows in the squad. [Post edited 22 Jun 12:07]
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What has convinced me that there is serious chances of improvement in O'Neill's approach (and in turn results or at least a fighting chance for Town in the top division) are a couple of 'coaches voice' videos on Chelter's thread about tactics two days ago, well worth a watch in my opinion - the first is in the OP and the second is halfway down the first page and posted by aljoblue. [Post edited 22 Jun 12:15]
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| Any chance it's not O'Neil? on 12:16 - Jun 22 with 743 views | portmanking |
| Any chance it's not O'Neil? on 12:14 - Jun 22 by WeWereZombies |
What has convinced me that there is serious chances of improvement in O'Neill's approach (and in turn results or at least a fighting chance for Town in the top division) are a couple of 'coaches voice' videos on Chelter's thread about tactics two days ago, well worth a watch in my opinion - the first is in the OP and the second is halfway down the first page and posted by aljoblue. [Post edited 22 Jun 12:15]
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I've watched them a fortnight or so ago. | | | |
| Any chance it's not O'Neil? on 12:20 - Jun 22 with 711 views | tractorboy1978 |
| Any chance it's not O'Neil? on 11:56 - Jun 22 by portmanking |
I think that's where the problem lies: he doesn't really have any sense of identity to his approach.
We've gone from hiring a manager with crystal clear principles to one who's just going to condense the middle of the pitch and hope we can be good enough to nick some goals on transitions. I mean, it's not hard to see why a large percentage of fans are bemused and deflated at this, surely?
If we're going down the hard to beat '17th at all costs' route why on earth *didn't* we seriously consider Dyche?! [Post edited 22 Jun 11:56]
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Maybe we did consider/speak to Dyche?
O'Neil wouldn't have been my first choice but I don't really understand the overreaction if I am honest (not necessarily from you). I can't say I have any more faith in someone like Knutsen or Barry being a success here. They come with a similar amount of questions (albeit maybe different ones).
O'Neil has been adaptable and managed to pick up results for two clubs in relegation battles in his first seasons in charge. You may see that as a negative but not sure I do this season. It is stay up by whatever means necessary. Do I see him being the long term answer? No. Do I think he can be the right man for the next 12 months? Yes.
Our recruitment this summer is far more important than the choice of manager for me. It needs to be bang on. [Post edited 22 Jun 12:21]
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| Any chance it's not O'Neil? on 12:23 - Jun 22 with 684 views | Gary_Knows |
| Any chance it's not O'Neil? on 12:20 - Jun 22 by tractorboy1978 |
Maybe we did consider/speak to Dyche?
O'Neil wouldn't have been my first choice but I don't really understand the overreaction if I am honest (not necessarily from you). I can't say I have any more faith in someone like Knutsen or Barry being a success here. They come with a similar amount of questions (albeit maybe different ones).
O'Neil has been adaptable and managed to pick up results for two clubs in relegation battles in his first seasons in charge. You may see that as a negative but not sure I do this season. It is stay up by whatever means necessary. Do I see him being the long term answer? No. Do I think he can be the right man for the next 12 months? Yes.
Our recruitment this summer is far more important than the choice of manager for me. It needs to be bang on. [Post edited 22 Jun 12:21]
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If he was called Garije Van O’Neille and was managing AZ Alkmaar and came from Holland everyone would be lauding this appointment | |
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| Any chance it's not O'Neil? on 12:26 - Jun 22 with 666 views | portmanking |
| Any chance it's not O'Neil? on 12:23 - Jun 22 by Gary_Knows |
If he was called Garije Van O’Neille and was managing AZ Alkmaar and came from Holland everyone would be lauding this appointment |
His name and nationality don't matter to me whatsoever. | | | |
| Any chance it's not O'Neil? on 12:29 - Jun 22 with 652 views | Waig |
| Any chance it's not O'Neil? on 12:23 - Jun 22 by Gary_Knows |
If he was called Garije Van O’Neille and was managing AZ Alkmaar and came from Holland everyone would be lauding this appointment |
Deep down you know full well he won’t even make it to Xmas | | | |
| Any chance it's not O'Neil? on 12:33 - Jun 22 with 628 views | BiGDonnie |
| Any chance it's not O'Neil? on 12:23 - Jun 22 by Gary_Knows |
If he was called Garije Van O’Neille and was managing AZ Alkmaar and came from Holland everyone would be lauding this appointment |
Silly comment. If you're happy with GON, fair play to you. You're wrong though and time will show that. He doesn't make it to Christmas is my guess. | |
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| Any chance it's not O'Neil? on 12:42 - Jun 22 with 585 views | Gary_Knows |
| Any chance it's not O'Neil? on 12:33 - Jun 22 by BiGDonnie |
Silly comment. If you're happy with GON, fair play to you. You're wrong though and time will show that. He doesn't make it to Christmas is my guess. |
… and that right there is all people want. To be able to come back here in 6 months time and go ‘I told you so’.
Very strange, IMHO. | |
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| Any chance it's not O'Neil? on 12:49 - Jun 22 with 536 views | Olcol |
| Any chance it's not O'Neil? on 12:20 - Jun 22 by tractorboy1978 |
Maybe we did consider/speak to Dyche?
O'Neil wouldn't have been my first choice but I don't really understand the overreaction if I am honest (not necessarily from you). I can't say I have any more faith in someone like Knutsen or Barry being a success here. They come with a similar amount of questions (albeit maybe different ones).
O'Neil has been adaptable and managed to pick up results for two clubs in relegation battles in his first seasons in charge. You may see that as a negative but not sure I do this season. It is stay up by whatever means necessary. Do I see him being the long term answer? No. Do I think he can be the right man for the next 12 months? Yes.
Our recruitment this summer is far more important than the choice of manager for me. It needs to be bang on. [Post edited 22 Jun 12:21]
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Recruitment of prem equivalent talent must be realised or we are going back down. GON had Individuals already at both Bournemouth and Wolves that were good enough and should have avoided relegation anyway.
Ashton goes on about the clubs ambition, I don't see anything like it here. | | | |
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