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If we lose…. You just know which players certain people will vent their ire at 18:24 - Jul 1 with 3002 viewsITFC_Forever

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If we lose…. You just know which players certain people will vent their ire at on 22:58 - Jul 1 with 566 viewsGlasgowBlue

If we lose…. You just know which players certain people will vent their ire at on 22:37 - Jul 1 by grow_our_own

Agreed to play for England?


If you believe that Olise chose France over England because there is less racism aimed at black players in the French national team than England, I would suggest you read about the vile racist abuse directed at black French players after the defeat to Argentina at the last World Cup.

That was the same year that the far right polled 41% in the French
Presidential elections. Our equivalent can’t poll much higher than 25%.

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If we lose…. You just know which players certain people will vent their ire at on 23:20 - Jul 1 with 495 viewsgrow_our_own

If we lose…. You just know which players certain people will vent their ire at on 22:58 - Jul 1 by GlasgowBlue

If you believe that Olise chose France over England because there is less racism aimed at black players in the French national team than England, I would suggest you read about the vile racist abuse directed at black French players after the defeat to Argentina at the last World Cup.

That was the same year that the far right polled 41% in the French
Presidential elections. Our equivalent can’t poll much higher than 25%.


Wasn't the same scale as the abuse suffered by England players. I had to hunt to find any report of the French instances you cite. Wouldn't be surprised if Londoners like Semenyo & Olise would only be aware of the Euro 2020 final racism.
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If we lose…. You just know which players certain people will vent their ire at on 23:20 - Jul 1 with 494 viewsJ2BLUE

If we lose…. You just know which players certain people will vent their ire at on 22:37 - Jul 1 by grow_our_own

Agreed to play for England?


A quick google could tell you the reasons they chose their nations.
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If we lose…. You just know which players certain people will vent their ire at on 23:26 - Jul 1 with 480 viewsgrow_our_own

If we lose…. You just know which players certain people will vent their ire at on 23:20 - Jul 1 by J2BLUE

A quick google could tell you the reasons they chose their nations.


They're hardly going to come out and say it's because elements of the English support are racist.
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If we lose…. You just know which players certain people will vent their ire at on 23:27 - Jul 1 with 463 viewsGlasgowBlue

If we lose…. You just know which players certain people will vent their ire at on 23:20 - Jul 1 by J2BLUE

A quick google could tell you the reasons they chose their nations.


Indeed. My son is born and bred in Scotland with a Scottish mother. But if he was good enough he would choose England.

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If we lose…. You just know which players certain people will vent their ire at on 23:35 - Jul 1 with 438 viewsJ2BLUE

If we lose…. You just know which players certain people will vent their ire at on 23:26 - Jul 1 by grow_our_own

They're hardly going to come out and say it's because elements of the English support are racist.
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Once again twisting things to suit your agenda. Pointless engaging with you.
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If we lose…. You just know which players certain people will vent their ire at on 23:43 - Jul 1 with 408 viewsSuffolktractor

If we lose…. You just know which players certain people will vent their ire at on 23:26 - Jul 1 by grow_our_own

They're hardly going to come out and say it's because elements of the English support are racist.
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Amazing that all the racist people in the world are from England. Thank goodness there are no racists in France, Netherlands, Belgium, Germany, Scotland and Ireland.
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If we lose…. You just know which players certain people will vent their ire at on 23:47 - Jul 1 with 373 viewsgrow_our_own

If we lose…. You just know which players certain people will vent their ire at on 23:27 - Jul 1 by GlasgowBlue

Indeed. My son is born and bred in Scotland with a Scottish mother. But if he was good enough he would choose England.


You might be right that Semenyo and Olise chose Ghana and France for unrelated reasons. I might be right that they were deterred by vile racist abuse handed out to England players who were more successful in a major tournament than any since 1966, at the time when they'd have been choosing which country to represent. It's an unwinnable argument either way.

But it's undeniable that elements of English support have, for certain groups, made representing their country of birth and upbringing a less attractive prospect than it should be.
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If we lose…. You just know which players certain people will vent their ire at on 04:14 - Jul 2 with 287 viewsBenters

Obsessed.

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If we lose…. You just know which players certain people will vent their ire at on 21:53 - Jul 1 by waveneyblue

Go on then, you smooth talking bastard


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If we lose…. You just know which players certain people will vent their ire at on 05:01 - Jul 2 with 253 viewsTownieRob

Race baiting.
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If we lose…. You just know which players certain people will vent their ire at on 06:39 - Jul 2 with 206 viewsMK1

You really do talk some sh1t sometimes.

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If we lose…. You just know which players certain people will vent their ire at on 06:48 - Jul 2 with 182 viewstiptreeblue

If we lose…. You just know which players certain people will vent their ire at on 23:35 - Jul 1 by J2BLUE

Once again twisting things to suit your agenda. Pointless engaging with you.


Sadly, some people won't change their stance on anything, no matter if you can prove otherwise, on both sides of the argument to be fair,
What gets me is people like the OP can't understand that they are just as bad, because they have to start the argument in the first instance and then wonder why it all kicks off, it's almost like they need to justify their own opinion
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If we lose…. You just know which players certain people will vent their ire at on 07:13 - Jul 2 with 158 viewsBenters

If we lose…. You just know which players certain people will vent their ire at on 06:48 - Jul 2 by tiptreeblue

Sadly, some people won't change their stance on anything, no matter if you can prove otherwise, on both sides of the argument to be fair,
What gets me is people like the OP can't understand that they are just as bad, because they have to start the argument in the first instance and then wonder why it all kicks off, it's almost like they need to justify their own opinion
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There’s a lot like that on here buh.

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If we lose…. You just know which players certain people will vent their ire at on 07:13 - Jul 2 by Benters

There’s a lot like that on here buh.


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If we lose…. You just know which players certain people will vent their ire at on 07:39 - Jul 2 with 113 viewsBenters

If we lose…. You just know which players certain people will vent their ire at on 07:32 - Jul 2 by Leaky

This


Have an uppie!

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If we lose…. You just know which players certain people will vent their ire at on 23:20 - Jul 1 by grow_our_own

Wasn't the same scale as the abuse suffered by England players. I had to hunt to find any report of the French instances you cite. Wouldn't be surprised if Londoners like Semenyo & Olise would only be aware of the Euro 2020 final racism.


The 2020 thing was mostly a tiny minority of idiots on which nobody would have noticed until media and others amplified it for the sake of condemning. I remember going through my social media feeds at the time, the noise was 99.5% people reposting, replying or commenting in outrage. Ragebait works, sadly.

Makes it look like there's a massive problem when it's just the usual proportion of morons you will find in any nation or society.

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If we lose…. You just know which players certain people will vent their ire at on 08:47 - Jul 2 with 51 viewsBiGDonnie

Jokes on you......... because we ain't going out.

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