| Kjell Scherpen 21:15 - Aug 22 with 2599 views | tonybied |
Loves to wang the ball out rather than kick it, doesn't he? |  | | |  |
| Kjell Scherpen on 21:49 - Aug 22 with 2408 views | Cheltenham_Blue |
Uppie for using 'Wang'
Massively underused as a word now. |  |
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| Kjell Scherpen on 21:58 - Aug 22 with 2339 views | Daninthecampo |
Good accuracy, could become a dangerous weapon for us |  | | |
| Kjell Scherpen on 21:58 - Aug 22 with 2332 views | Libero |
Bloody great big throw on the jolly green giant. |  | | |
| Kjell Scherpen on 21:59 - Aug 22 with 2330 views | IpswichOnThames |
If you can wang it half way up the pitch then why not | | | |
| Kjell Scherpen on 22:12 - Aug 22 with 2228 views | Clutch |
Made the right choice to come and punch that time too, which most goalies would have had no chance of making. |  | | |
| Kjell Scherpen on 01:30 - Aug 23 with 1879 views | Hciwspi |
Excellent use of the word wang! Someone else used it recently too but in a slightly different context 😆 |  | | |
| Kjell Scherpen on 02:13 - Aug 23 with 1835 views | urbanpenguin |
He does. But I'm reserving opinion otherwise ATM. Big guy, and their free kick was excellent but you'd hope a 206cm guy may have got a finger to it. It was a great save from that point blank header, but luckily it was pretty straight at him and he decided to weirdly scoop it rather than catch or push.
But, mostly, he was solid with his feet at the back, kicked well and with both feet when needed, threw as you say, and let's hope he grows into the role. |  |
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| Kjell Scherpen on 07:40 - Aug 23 with 1564 views | Blue_Uprising |
| Kjell Scherpen on 21:59 - Aug 22 by IpswichOnThames |
If you can wang it half way up the pitch then why not |
Who doesn’t like a good wang. Great to see this coming back into how to properly play in the gk position. |  | | |
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| Kjell Scherpen on 10:42 - Aug 23 with 1342 views | DJR |
One thing that was noticeable yesterday is that we didn't really attempt to play it out from the back.
To an extent, that mirrored the approach we took in the second half of the last Premier League season.
And I thought Emersonn, in particular, did well with balls lofted up to him. |  | | |
| Kjell Scherpen on 10:53 - Aug 23 with 1289 views | FlittonBlue |
| Kjell Scherpen on 02:13 - Aug 23 by urbanpenguin |
He does. But I'm reserving opinion otherwise ATM. Big guy, and their free kick was excellent but you'd hope a 206cm guy may have got a finger to it. It was a great save from that point blank header, but luckily it was pretty straight at him and he decided to weirdly scoop it rather than catch or push.
But, mostly, he was solid with his feet at the back, kicked well and with both feet when needed, threw as you say, and let's hope he grows into the role. |
Considering our previous keepers did seem to have a habit of pushing saves back out into the danger area (ok, maybe not a habit, more a minor tendency) scooping the ball away from the danger area was a huge positive for me - maybe his phenomenal wingspan gives him more leverage.
And yes, his punched clearance was exactly what a giant should do for the floated ball into the box - got a good distance on it too
All in all, with any luck,. the fans shouldnt go full Muric on him just yet - which will help him settle into life in the most scrutinized league in the world | |
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| Kjell Scherpen on 11:00 - Aug 23 with 1253 views | franz_tyson |
I know the 'right' thing to do is not criticise the lad because we might have a Muric-type scenario where it becomes a pile-on and it is still very early days in his Town career... but I'm really not sure about him. Worries the crap out of me when the ball is at his feet and he really must be hindered in some ways by his height agility-wise. However, i don't blame him for the goal and I thought he was solid enough. Nice save shovelling the ball out in the first half. If he uses his height dominating the area and makes his saves, I'll come on board, but I still have a few reservations. It's early days, I know. | | | |
| Kjell Scherpen on 11:07 - Aug 23 with 1208 views | DJR |
| Kjell Scherpen on 10:53 - Aug 23 by FlittonBlue |
Considering our previous keepers did seem to have a habit of pushing saves back out into the danger area (ok, maybe not a habit, more a minor tendency) scooping the ball away from the danger area was a huge positive for me - maybe his phenomenal wingspan gives him more leverage.
And yes, his punched clearance was exactly what a giant should do for the floated ball into the box - got a good distance on it too
All in all, with any luck,. the fans shouldnt go full Muric on him just yet - which will help him settle into life in the most scrutinized league in the world |
Having been at all the games he played, I think the manager and players went full Muric on Muric before the fans did.  | | | |
| Kjell Scherpen on 11:10 - Aug 23 with 1181 views | grow_our_own |
| Kjell Scherpen on 11:00 - Aug 23 by franz_tyson |
I know the 'right' thing to do is not criticise the lad because we might have a Muric-type scenario where it becomes a pile-on and it is still very early days in his Town career... but I'm really not sure about him. Worries the crap out of me when the ball is at his feet and he really must be hindered in some ways by his height agility-wise. However, i don't blame him for the goal and I thought he was solid enough. Nice save shovelling the ball out in the first half. If he uses his height dominating the area and makes his saves, I'll come on board, but I still have a few reservations. It's early days, I know. |
Yes shot saving and cross-taking almost takes care of itself when you're 6ft9". Its acceleration when coming off his line and footwork that are the question-marks. No complaints yesterday. Glad Walton is back fit. |  | | |
| Kjell Scherpen on 11:14 - Aug 23 with 1150 views | FlittonBlue |
| Kjell Scherpen on 11:10 - Aug 23 by grow_our_own |
Yes shot saving and cross-taking almost takes care of itself when you're 6ft9". Its acceleration when coming off his line and footwork that are the question-marks. No complaints yesterday. Glad Walton is back fit. |
Yep, the communication is not there yet, which is understandable.
Given the heart palputations we have had over the last few seasons when holding onto a late one goal lead, it was refreshing to see the keeper take charge and punch the ball away - he should be able to win most of those as long as he isnt playing any Maradona-types!! | |
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| Kjell Scherpen on 11:14 - Aug 23 with 1149 views | BloomBlue |
It will catch a few teams out. 100% of PL teams expect the opposition GK to play it short to a defender/midfielder, the Pep way. When they do kick long, they're normally telling everyone its going long with waving their hand.
Collecting the ball and wanging it quickly from their hands with accurate distance is going to catch more than one team on the back foot. |  | | |
| Kjell Scherpen on 11:17 - Aug 23 with 1131 views | badadski |
| Kjell Scherpen on 11:07 - Aug 23 by DJR |
Having been at all the games he played, I think the manager and players went full Muric on Muric before the fans did. |
I thought he had no chance with freekick - regardless of his height, the freekick was a worldie. He had some nerves, who wouldn’t.
His kicking was good, his positioning was good, he will prevent a lot of goals from corners due to the fact that teams who like to ping the ball within 10 yards of the goal line will no longer want to do that due to his height.
The thing I liked most was his throws, most were accurate, a few slightly heavy but as soon as he started doing that it changed the whole dimension of the Sunderland press as they didn’t know whether he was going to roll it out or as some one else said want it straight to the half way line to create an attack.
I like what I see. First time I had seen most of the new players, Fats grew into the game, encisio is just a maestro, Emerson not only had pace and quick feet but wins a lot of duels especially in the air and won a lot of flick ons that no one was running onto so nice
To know we have that as an outlet. Maeda ran and ran - was unlucky with the couple of balls just out of his reach when pinged across the goal. Lukic was class, so composed. O’Neil has spent very wisely and I love the look of the team. | | | |
| Kjell Scherpen on 11:22 - Aug 23 with 1089 views | HighgateBlue |
| Kjell Scherpen on 10:42 - Aug 23 by DJR |
One thing that was noticeable yesterday is that we didn't really attempt to play it out from the back.
To an extent, that mirrored the approach we took in the second half of the last Premier League season.
And I thought Emersonn, in particular, did well with balls lofted up to him. |
I think that's right.
With the whole 'playing it out from the back' phenomenon, I think there's been the following progression:
1) No team played it out from the back, but tended to hoof it fairly frequently
2) As continental influence took hold in the 1990s, there was a modicum of variation
3) Pep and a few other top clubs had much success by turning the keeper into an 11th outfield player, drawing opposition players onto him to take them out of the game, playing it short to ensure possession retention.
4) Many teams tried to copy this approach. It appeared to work in many cases, especially at the top level
5) Fans assumed that this was now the only correct way to play professional football, and swallowed wholesale the notion that (regardless of team or personnel), the odd 'clanger' at the back was outnumbered measurably and quantitatively by the goals that were created by not losing possession and playing it out from the back. In actual fact more teams were using a much more mixed approach than many fans realised, even in the Prem.
6) It became apparent that actually not that many keepers and defenders are excellent at ball retention and highly accurate passing under pressure, and especially in the lower leagues and where teams are promoted to a higher level, trying this approach really does have its limits, and those limits are most obviously created by the individual abilities of players, and their collective knowledge of each other. As a result, far more teams have dropped the idea of playing out from the back, or at least have adopted a much more mixed approach involving far less playing it out from the back. It has been a fashion that has changed the game probably forever, but will not be used /as a sole approach/ with any real success outside the very top teams.
IIn our case, yes, it was one way in which KMac became more pragmatic in the second half of the previous Prem season. Teams have to play to their strengths, and I think this season it's unlikely to play a large role.
Scherpen deserves a decent run of games before any judgment is made, to be honest. |  | | |
| Kjell Scherpen on 11:24 - Aug 23 with 1082 views | DJR |
| Kjell Scherpen on 11:17 - Aug 23 by badadski |
I thought he had no chance with freekick - regardless of his height, the freekick was a worldie. He had some nerves, who wouldn’t.
His kicking was good, his positioning was good, he will prevent a lot of goals from corners due to the fact that teams who like to ping the ball within 10 yards of the goal line will no longer want to do that due to his height.
The thing I liked most was his throws, most were accurate, a few slightly heavy but as soon as he started doing that it changed the whole dimension of the Sunderland press as they didn’t know whether he was going to roll it out or as some one else said want it straight to the half way line to create an attack.
I like what I see. First time I had seen most of the new players, Fats grew into the game, encisio is just a maestro, Emerson not only had pace and quick feet but wins a lot of duels especially in the air and won a lot of flick ons that no one was running onto so nice
To know we have that as an outlet. Maeda ran and ran - was unlucky with the couple of balls just out of his reach when pinged across the goal. Lukic was class, so composed. O’Neil has spent very wisely and I love the look of the team. |
Despite his size, Scherpen also seems pretty agile. | | | |
| Kjell Scherpen on 11:34 - Aug 23 with 1039 views | DJR |
| Kjell Scherpen on 11:22 - Aug 23 by HighgateBlue |
I think that's right.
With the whole 'playing it out from the back' phenomenon, I think there's been the following progression:
1) No team played it out from the back, but tended to hoof it fairly frequently
2) As continental influence took hold in the 1990s, there was a modicum of variation
3) Pep and a few other top clubs had much success by turning the keeper into an 11th outfield player, drawing opposition players onto him to take them out of the game, playing it short to ensure possession retention.
4) Many teams tried to copy this approach. It appeared to work in many cases, especially at the top level
5) Fans assumed that this was now the only correct way to play professional football, and swallowed wholesale the notion that (regardless of team or personnel), the odd 'clanger' at the back was outnumbered measurably and quantitatively by the goals that were created by not losing possession and playing it out from the back. In actual fact more teams were using a much more mixed approach than many fans realised, even in the Prem.
6) It became apparent that actually not that many keepers and defenders are excellent at ball retention and highly accurate passing under pressure, and especially in the lower leagues and where teams are promoted to a higher level, trying this approach really does have its limits, and those limits are most obviously created by the individual abilities of players, and their collective knowledge of each other. As a result, far more teams have dropped the idea of playing out from the back, or at least have adopted a much more mixed approach involving far less playing it out from the back. It has been a fashion that has changed the game probably forever, but will not be used /as a sole approach/ with any real success outside the very top teams.
IIn our case, yes, it was one way in which KMac became more pragmatic in the second half of the previous Prem season. Teams have to play to their strengths, and I think this season it's unlikely to play a large role.
Scherpen deserves a decent run of games before any judgment is made, to be honest. |
It seems to be the case that O'Neil favours the pressing game. Indeed, our two goals could be said to be the result of pressing.
That being the case, playing it long from the keeper prevents the opposition pressing and instead allows us to press higher up the pitch if the opposition win the ball. [Post edited 23 Aug 11:36]
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| Kjell Scherpen on 11:36 - Aug 23 with 1010 views | Wickets |
Perhaps not be over critical after just one league game . |  | | |
| Kjell Scherpen on 11:59 - Aug 23 with 905 views | Clutch |
I saw people on Facebook moaning if he stood in the middle he would save the free kick.
Do they not know the point of a wall? And then where the keeper covers?
No goalie was saving that, and he was in the right spot. | | | |
| Kjell Scherpen on 12:26 - Aug 23 with 820 views | londonblue791 |
| Kjell Scherpen on 10:53 - Aug 23 by FlittonBlue |
Considering our previous keepers did seem to have a habit of pushing saves back out into the danger area (ok, maybe not a habit, more a minor tendency) scooping the ball away from the danger area was a huge positive for me - maybe his phenomenal wingspan gives him more leverage.
And yes, his punched clearance was exactly what a giant should do for the floated ball into the box - got a good distance on it too
All in all, with any luck,. the fans shouldnt go full Muric on him just yet - which will help him settle into life in the most scrutinized league in the world |
Specifically to your last bit, I do hope that our fans don’t pounce upon Kjell like some did with Muric. Yes, aro became painful to watch as he cost us a lot of points (Brentford away, Newcastle home) - however ….
Kjell is a capable keeper with good experience (CL) and his height will be a valuable asset to us. I hope he can become fond of us opposed to the idea that some of our ‘fans’ could start hurling abuse at him when he might make mistakes which will likely happen over the course of this season.
We don’t need our keeper to become nervous between the sticks at ITFC, we need our keeper to bring his A game week in week out and alot of that will come from how the we all treat him
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