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First game on MOTD! 22:29 - Oct 17 with 3842 views

Vic

Which of our defenders didn't take the knee?

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First game on MOTD! on 08:07 - Oct 18 with 692 views

Benters

First game on MOTD! on 07:57 - Oct 18 by BudapestByBlimp
Guehi did but later, when Maeda went past him to score, in fact he went on both knees.

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First game on MOTD! on 08:50 - Oct 18 with 638 views

Scuzzer

First game on MOTD! on 23:05 - Oct 17 by Vaughan8
I'm not being funny but you can't work out who wasn't taking the knee even though it was obviously a centre back and was a person of colour?

Why does it concern you?

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First game on MOTD! on 09:04 - Oct 18 with 624 views

GeoffSentence

First game on MOTD! on 22:57 - Oct 17 by Durovigutum
Guehi didn’t either.

He took Fatawu's knee later.

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First game on MOTD! on 09:31 - Oct 18 with 583 views

Guthrum

First game on MOTD! on 01:15 - Oct 18 by Joey_Joe_Joe_Junior
What exactly is it doing then? I’m all ears. Zaha, Diop, Naitlin-Miles and Guehi obviously think it’s performative nonsense instead of tackling any real issues. This is the same Premier League then didn’t even say one thing about Enzo (who was a club captain at the time) after singing his songs on the coach about the French squad. So you can piss off.

As to what it's doing, when influential people publicly indicate what they consider to be virtuous, that can normalise that virtue among the people who are looking up to them.

In plain language, it tells kids (and middle-aged men) that their heroes are opposed to racism and thus they ought to be too.

Hypocrisy from the PL doesn't negate the overall good intentions of the taking a knee movement. But it also doesn't imply that any player who fails to take a knee is pro-racism.

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First game on MOTD! on 10:29 - Oct 18 with 527 views

Wallingford_Boy

Is that still a thing?!

Thought that was dropped last season.

I thought a lot of the back players had said they didn’t agree with doing it, so it was stopped.

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First game on MOTD! on 10:29 - Oct 18 with 529 views

Meadowlark

"Take the knee"

Another horrible American expression like "Got your back," "flip the bird" "my bad."

First game on MOTD! on 11:39 - Oct 18 with 468 views

Benters

First game on MOTD! on 10:29 - Oct 18 by Meadowlark
"Take the knee" Another horrible American expression like "Got your back," "flip the bird" "my bad."

Flip the bird is that the finger?

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First game on MOTD! on 11:53 - Oct 18 with 451 views

Wallingford_Boy

First game on MOTD! on 02:46 - Oct 18 by Joey_Joe_Joe_Junior
Answer the question if you’re going to try dish it out. How is it whatabouterry? It’s literally on the same topic you div. You offered absolutely nothing on this forum for years, you have no opinion on football whatsoever, you just appear with shite one liners in anything you thinks political that you don’t like.

VERY well said sir.

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First game on MOTD! on 12:06 - Oct 18 with 437 views

Whos_blue

First game on MOTD! on 09:31 - Oct 18 by Guthrum

I try to avoid just saying "this", but as usual Guthers you have completely nailed it.
Whether it is virtuous or not is not really the point and it always astonishes me that we've taken to booing it at PR.
There is a problem with racism in football. Taking the knee may no longer be having the effect it once did, but in lieu of anything else, why be so opposed to it?
It just strikes me as an odd look to be opposed to something that is highlighting the issue of racism in football.
In some ways, the booing or general opposition maybe somehow proves the point.
I wonder what those most opposed to it think about racism in football and what alternatives could be employed to highlight it, root it out and kill it off for good.

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First game on MOTD! on 12:40 - Oct 18 with 411 views

mellowblue

First game on MOTD! on 12:06 - Oct 18 by Whos_blue

Whether it the corporate virtue signalling from the PL lecturing everybody or the politicizing of anti-racism in a sports environment or the U.S origins or whatever reason, I doubt the booing is a pro-racism reaction.
If players are seen to be divided on it and some of the black players do not find it supportable; once the kneeing does not get 100% support, the impact and optics look bad. I would quietly drop it and find other ways to promote ant-racism. It is getting old hat and the anti-racism promotion can not afford to be seen as a yesterday thing.

First game on MOTD! on 10:50 - Oct 19 with 305 views

Whos_blue

First game on MOTD! on 12:40 - Oct 18 by mellowblue

But why the need to boo it?
It just seems an odd reaction to something that is trying to highlight an issue.
I think your point that it may be a little "old hat" is valid, but it still doesn't explain the booing.
Things you might expect to hear booed at football (generally speaking of course) - the officials, a poor performance, an opposition manager/player. But an action to highlight the issue of racism in football? Seriously?
I have no idea why some would want to boo the act, but I think it's naive to think there isn't a racist element to it.
Of all the things to boo, it just seems an odd one to pick.

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