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Giving away goals 18:27 - Nov 8 with 1210 viewsGlasgowBlue

Would be interesting to go through all of our goals conceded this season but off the top of my head we have conceded 4 goals in our last two games.

Hull goal 1. O'Shea fails to challenge the attacker and lets him have a free shot on goal.

Hull goal 2. Florentino givers the ball away on the halfway line which causes a breakaway. Florentino then commits a foul on the edge of the box. Walton fails to cover the oly place McBurnie could put the ball.

Bournemouth goal 1. Completely fcuk up by Walton

Bournemouth goal 2. Ouattara needlessly gives the ball away to a Bournemouth player. Within two passes the ball is in our net.

On the one hand, keep giving goals away and we are as good as relegated.

On the other hand, fix these silly mistakes/change of personel and we will start picking up much needed points again.


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Giving away goals on 19:00 - Nov 8Scuzzer

I just get the feeling that its going to turn into a replica of our last sojourn in the PL.
Too many mistakes gifting the opposition. It's got to stop...or the same result beckons.

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Giving away goals on 19:16 - Nov 8GlasgowBlue

Giving away goals on 19:00 - Nov 8 by Scuzzer

I just get the feeling that its going to turn into a replica of our last sojourn in the PL.
Too many mistakes gifting the opposition. It's got to stop...or the same result beckons.


Losing becomes a habit. We don't want to fall into that pattern again.

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Giving away goals on 19:35 - Nov 8belgablue

Giving away goals on 19:00 - Nov 8 by Scuzzer

I just get the feeling that its going to turn into a replica of our last sojourn in the PL.
Too many mistakes gifting the opposition. It's got to stop...or the same result beckons.


It's starting to feel like that

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Giving away goals on 19:40 - Nov 8ITFCSG

Worst of all it’s not as if we are playing against prime Barca and are being ripped to shreds by the opposition, the goals we have gifted so far (even at ManUre) are mostly unforced errors by sheer indecision, ball-watching or plain stupidity.

GON better start to iron out the mistakes, it’s only been 10 games, some players starting from Walton needs to be dropped. Florentino as well, I would rather play Matusiwa in there.
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Giving away goals on 21:14 - Nov 8DJR

Luis lunging in at Man City, and Nunez slipping over at Man Utd spring to mind.

There might also have been more that Scherpen could have done with some of the goals he conceded.
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Giving away goals on 22:03 - Nov 8RetroBlue

Our mistakes are I feel down to lack of concentration.

We're doing it nearly every game. So many teams we've played against so far and very few of them have been a significant step above us. But we shoot ourselves in the foot every gane it seems, by giving away such soft goals.

Stop gifting the oppoidition goals and we'll probably stay up ...dont, znd were likely down. They need to buck up their ideas and concentrate for the full duration of the game from the first, to the last whistle!

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Giving away goals on 22:06 - Nov 8FrimleyBlue

Giving away goals on 22:03 - Nov 8 by RetroBlue

Our mistakes are I feel down to lack of concentration.

We're doing it nearly every game. So many teams we've played against so far and very few of them have been a significant step above us. But we shoot ourselves in the foot every gane it seems, by giving away such soft goals.

Stop gifting the oppoidition goals and we'll probably stay up ...dont, znd were likely down. They need to buck up their ideas and concentrate for the full duration of the game from the first, to the last whistle!


Lack of concentration caused by fatique? ( ignore walton today)

Saw something about us running more than many other club prem clubs

Is that an issue perhaps?

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Giving away goals on 22:16 - Nov 8DJR

Giving away goals on 22:06 - Nov 8 by FrimleyBlue

Lack of concentration caused by fatique? ( ignore walton today)

Saw something about us running more than many other club prem clubs

Is that an issue perhaps?


According to the following, Bournemouth beat us today on distance covered, running, high-speed running and sprinting.

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Giving away goals on 22:21 - Nov 8ITFC_Forever

Taking it to the nth degree, every goal is preventable - if you track the move back to when we last had possession.

But it’s true, our opponents haven’t had to work particularly hard for many of the goals we have conceded.

Stop that, and we have a reasonable chance of survival. Don’t, and this season will turn into a repeat of last time with losing becoming a habit.

The next run of fixtures are already looking tough… we don’t want to make life more difficult than it already is.

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Giving away goals on 04:02 - Nov 9Vic

Giving away goals on 19:40 - Nov 8 by ITFCSG

Worst of all it’s not as if we are playing against prime Barca and are being ripped to shreds by the opposition, the goals we have gifted so far (even at ManUre) are mostly unforced errors by sheer indecision, ball-watching or plain stupidity.

GON better start to iron out the mistakes, it’s only been 10 games, some players starting from Walton needs to be dropped. Florentino as well, I would rather play Matusiwa in there.


I asked chatGPT for Waltons mistakes stas compared to other Prem keepers - he's no worse than others.
Hers what it said: https://chatgpt.com/s/t_6af144
Not sure if piati g a link will work!

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Giving away goals on 08:19 - Nov 9BABLUE

Giving away goals on 04:02 - Nov 9 by Vic

I asked chatGPT for Waltons mistakes stas compared to other Prem keepers - he's no worse than others.
Hers what it said: https://chatgpt.com/s/t_6af144
Not sure if piati g a link will work!


We have played 6 of the bottom 8 so far (we are in that group), so have had a relatively easy start.

The errors leading to goals are killing us and sadly, I think that we will be going down.

To stay up you need to pick up more points in the first half of the season as teams work out how to play against you as well.

High press, someone on Palacios, making Enciso play deeper and having their wide men stay wide to deny Ouattara and Leif space are what Bournemouth did very effectively.

It’s going to be a long few months.

The hope is the City points deduction, although that would need to be at least 50 for us to be above them I reckon (even though we are only 10 points behind them now, I would be surprised if we continue picking up 1 point a game and they will collect more than 2 as they are doing so far) the terrible errors being largely cut out (no clean sheets in 29 PL games) and some defensive additions in early January.

We also need one of the teams around us to have a really poor run to get cut adrift.
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Giving away goals on 08:19 - Nov 9skinnybob72

I went into the game wondering if Bournemouth were really as good as their recent run would have you think.

I never got to find out! We gifted them an opener and they simply played well within themselves after that, happy to let us have the ball and hope we made a mistake on halfway which would let them in - we duly obliged straight after HT.

Other than the soft looking penalty we never really looked like scoring, and even after that they were still comfortable.

As easy a 3 points they will collect all season.
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Giving away goals on 08:43 - Nov 9backwaywhen

Giving away goals on 08:19 - Nov 9 by skinnybob72

I went into the game wondering if Bournemouth were really as good as their recent run would have you think.

I never got to find out! We gifted them an opener and they simply played well within themselves after that, happy to let us have the ball and hope we made a mistake on halfway which would let them in - we duly obliged straight after HT.

Other than the soft looking penalty we never really looked like scoring, and even after that they were still comfortable.

As easy a 3 points they will collect all season.


Man City gifted Forest with some sloppy play Saturday and got punished, it happens with all teams , perhaps we have had our share for the season already.
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Giving away goals on 09:43 - Nov 9soupytwist

As with the last time we were in this league, our defence is not solid enough to avoid the small margin things going against us. I find it hard to put into coherent words but in important moments our defenders are too often off balance or getting into position when something happens. For the second goal yesterday, we actually dealt with the first threat following Outtara's inaccurate pass back towards Diop thanks to a tackle in the box by Luis. But, it was a Bournemouth player who got to the loose ball, went past Outtara and hit a hopeful ball across goal. Diop wasn't positioned sufficiently well to block it, just deflect it enough so it would go wide of the far post. Davis was getting back towards the goal line so it hit him and went in. Of course, he did that a couple of times against Forest and stopped at least one, if not two, goals. If Christie's shot had hit no one, it wouldn't have been a goal but it hit two of our defenders and went in.

We had 6 outfield players plus Walton in the box during that phase of play, they had five one of whom was offside (but not interfering with play) when Christie shot. Pretty much all game they got about the pitch quicker than us, and their ability to be in the right place and ready to take advantage got them the second goal.

What's the answer? Does a better full back than Outtara stop Christie taking the shot? Does a better centre half than Diop block the shot so it goes out towards the touchline? Does a better full back than Davis get into position quicker so he can either avoid the shot completely and it goes wide or be better positioned so his deflection doesn't put the ball in the net? Does a better centre half than O'Shea turn quicker back towards the goal once Luis has made the tackle to get back in the six yard box so there's another body between Diop and Davis? I don't know.

First goal yesterday was just a stupid mistake, that happens.
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Giving away goals on 11:10 - Nov 9BlueForYou

It would help if we stopped giving the ball away so easily! We rarely seem to be capable of holding it for any decent period.
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Giving away goals on 11:25 - Nov 9Billywitch

Giving away goals on 22:06 - Nov 8 by FrimleyBlue

Lack of concentration caused by fatique? ( ignore walton today)

Saw something about us running more than many other club prem clubs

Is that an issue perhaps?


running harder than the opposition will never be a negative, especially as a team who lack the quality to compete on footballing ability alone.
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Giving away goals on 11:28 - Nov 9hype313

Giving away goals on 11:10 - Nov 9 by BlueForYou

It would help if we stopped giving the ball away so easily! We rarely seem to be capable of holding it for any decent period.


You have to give credit to other teams for their press, especially yesterday, Bournemouth put all our players under so much pressure that they forced us to make mistakes.

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