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The GK choice The constant over exitement post game of how well we controlled the game His seeming ignorance to the importance of defensive stability
Ive enjoyed many games and despite not creating much i did feel we were pretty competive yesturday. But we are desperately lacking something
At the back we have no balance We seem to play like a stable prem club rather than one whos just come up and we simply dont have the squad for it
I like many of the players but when you look at the other prem clubs we have pretty much a developing squad in very important positions whilst having an unbalanced and questionable backline
Our forward line is made up of developing players in key areas. Sure julio is quality but hes still in his own development stage Fatawu. Jaden etc same Emmerson. So raw
I dunno. Im semi happy with things but when i look at it a bit more deeply i dont see how this squad stays up without a big shopping spree in january whicj is gonna be tough to do
So if we are gonna go through a tough season. Can we do it honestly None of this bullsht post game interview rubbish None of this rcb playing lcb stuff And pick the right bloody keeper
You could change the name from GON to KM and it would still ring true. Maybe the issue is the lack of better options and a manager trying to get the best out of what he has and generally doing a decent job?
I like you, Frimmers. You seem genuinely nice and you obviously care about the club. But your footballing opinions are so often wide of the mark. It's pessimistic, and you'll forever be associated with your 'smarmy' comment, but blimey, you're hard work on here.
Just 3 gripes with O'neil on 21:34 - Nov 9 by LevelTheLand
I like you, Frimmers. You seem genuinely nice and you obviously care about the club. But your footballing opinions are so often wide of the mark. It's pessimistic, and you'll forever be associated with your 'smarmy' comment, but blimey, you're hard work on here.
Just 3 gripes with O'neil on 21:34 - Nov 9 by LevelTheLand
I like you, Frimmers. You seem genuinely nice and you obviously care about the club. But your footballing opinions are so often wide of the mark. It's pessimistic, and you'll forever be associated with your 'smarmy' comment, but blimey, you're hard work on here.
He’s definitely an over-thinker lol. I like him too; his heart’s in the right place.
This post rings a bit true to me though. I don’t think it’s that wide of the mark and as I mentioned above KM faced very similar criticisms.
Disagree. I think he sees the bigger picture and the potential we have. I can't stand being on here during games anymore as people micro analyse every misplaced pass. For me it's about the season, not individual games. I think we're holding our own. We've made mistakes, and there are a few things to address but I think we have a real chance to stay up.
Just 3 gripes with O'neil on 21:40 - Nov 9 by FrimleyBlue
What there is wide of the mark can i ask?
I dont see it as pessimistic. Its realistic no?
I wouldn't necessarily say it's this post that is wide of the mark, just that you'll find a negative in absolutely everything. Yesterday happened, let's get over it, enjoy the other things in life!
Just 3 gripes with O'neil on 21:50 - Nov 9 by J2BLUE
Disagree. I think he sees the bigger picture and the potential we have. I can't stand being on here during games anymore as people micro analyse every misplaced pass. For me it's about the season, not individual games. I think we're holding our own. We've made mistakes, and there are a few things to address but I think we have a real chance to stay up.
O'Neil can see it as well.
And i do get that but you cant expect mistakes not to happen when you dont proactively do something about them yourself.
It seems really obvious 3 at the back and wingbacks is most suited to us and it did us no harm against a very good city side. Imo we should have taken that on and worked with that.
Going into games with oshea as lcb is unbalanced. The keeper situation hes made worse theres no bigger picture with that. The bigger picture would have been letting your new keeper settle and work with the team etc.
Two constant selections which have effected us negatively imo is jaden and florentino. Occasional glimpses of stuff just not effective.
Its better than 24 and i feel we are in games more too. I do agree we have a chance but jan is important.
Just 3 gripes with O'neil on 21:51 - Nov 9 by LevelTheLand
I wouldn't necessarily say it's this post that is wide of the mark, just that you'll find a negative in absolutely everything. Yesterday happened, let's get over it, enjoy the other things in life!
Im enjoying life. Just discussing this season so far really
What choice has he got on the goalkeeper situation? The question isn't really one of 'are they premier league quality' right now, the only question for GON is which one of the substandard keepers starts. Based on what we saw of Scherpen he looked pony, he couldn't kick for toffee, let in some really soft goals, and nobody appeared to have any confidence in him.
I don't think we've defended badly for the most part as a collective. Its always going to be a balance between defensive solidity and attacking intent, but I don't think we've got it too far wrong. We're just making far too many individual errors, and not just at the back.
Ultimately, 11 points from 10 games. 1.1 ppg, over a season that's 42 points which would be enough. 5 home, 5 away, and a pretty reasonable cross section of the PL. I think we're pretty much where most people would've expected us to be aren't we?
Just 3 gripes with O'neil on 22:12 - Nov 9 by _CliveBaker_
What choice has he got on the goalkeeper situation? The question isn't really one of 'are they premier league quality' right now, the only question for GON is which one of the substandard keepers starts. Based on what we saw of Scherpen he looked pony, he couldn't kick for toffee, let in some really soft goals, and nobody appeared to have any confidence in him.
I don't think we've defended badly for the most part as a collective. Its always going to be a balance between defensive solidity and attacking intent, but I don't think we've got it too far wrong. We're just making far too many individual errors, and not just at the back.
Ultimately, 11 points from 10 games. 1.1 ppg, over a season that's 42 points which would be enough. 5 home, 5 away, and a pretty reasonable cross section of the PL. I think we're pretty much where most people would've expected us to be aren't we?
Scherpen was known for his long ball completion at his last club For town he played more short balls than walton clearly something he was asked to do with a defence that had oshea at RB. A rusty diop and no palacios infront who drops back to take the ball either. Once he gets a fair run with this defence and midfield and given licence to go long i think it would be a fair comparison.
We are indeed in a position we would all take as long as we can keep it going. Its slowed down a tad and not sure where our next win is coming from however.
Just 3 gripes with O'neil on 22:20 - Nov 9 by FrimleyBlue
Scherpen was known for his long ball completion at his last club For town he played more short balls than walton clearly something he was asked to do with a defence that had oshea at RB. A rusty diop and no palacios infront who drops back to take the ball either. Once he gets a fair run with this defence and midfield and given licence to go long i think it would be a fair comparison.
We are indeed in a position we would all take as long as we can keep it going. Its slowed down a tad and not sure where our next win is coming from however.
I'm not sure. Don't get me wrong I don't think Walton gets in any other side at this level and I thought the Scherpen switch was a little premature, its a hard one to come back from once you've made that call. But I think he'd made it hard for GON to keep him in at that point. Caught in no mans land at OT and got lobbed, both Liverpool goals were suspect, near post for the 1st and again in no mans land for the 2nd. Still not sure about Palace tbh, in their own right probably not howlers but off the back of the previous 2 it wasn't a great look. Shaky, poor distribution, Walton represented the supposed 'Steady Eddy' who might not win you tons of points but shouldn't cost you many. That's questionable lately though.
Its a tough one for me, and fooking annoying we're back where we were 2 years ago in that department.
Just 3 gripes with O'neil on 22:20 - Nov 9 by FrimleyBlue
Scherpen was known for his long ball completion at his last club For town he played more short balls than walton clearly something he was asked to do with a defence that had oshea at RB. A rusty diop and no palacios infront who drops back to take the ball either. Once he gets a fair run with this defence and midfield and given licence to go long i think it would be a fair comparison.
We are indeed in a position we would all take as long as we can keep it going. Its slowed down a tad and not sure where our next win is coming from however.
4 more wins before the New Year. Tottingham Coventry Newcastle Brentford
Just 3 gripes with O'neil on 22:12 - Nov 9 by _CliveBaker_
What choice has he got on the goalkeeper situation? The question isn't really one of 'are they premier league quality' right now, the only question for GON is which one of the substandard keepers starts. Based on what we saw of Scherpen he looked pony, he couldn't kick for toffee, let in some really soft goals, and nobody appeared to have any confidence in him.
I don't think we've defended badly for the most part as a collective. Its always going to be a balance between defensive solidity and attacking intent, but I don't think we've got it too far wrong. We're just making far too many individual errors, and not just at the back.
Ultimately, 11 points from 10 games. 1.1 ppg, over a season that's 42 points which would be enough. 5 home, 5 away, and a pretty reasonable cross section of the PL. I think we're pretty much where most people would've expected us to be aren't we?
Think the concern is that the next 9 games, to take us to halfway, look more difficult overall than the 10 games we've had so far
We really need Coventry and Hull to go on losing streaks to make our position look a bit better. It's a tough ask to expect us to finish above 2 of last year's Prem sides as the strugglers will inevitably improve at some point. This doesn't take Man City into account, but i'll believe their point deduction only if it happens
Just 3 gripes with O'neil on 21:27 - Nov 9 by Swansea_Blue
You could change the name from GON to KM and it would still ring true. Maybe the issue is the lack of better options and a manager trying to get the best out of what he has and generally doing a decent job?
I think GON's biggest problem is that he isnt KM.
I didn't like his comments post liverpool being along the lines of how well we'd done after the 2 early goals conceded. However he's presided over 3 wins and im convinced we dont win those 3 games under McKenna.
Just 3 gripes with O'neil on 22:12 - Nov 9 by _CliveBaker_
What choice has he got on the goalkeeper situation? The question isn't really one of 'are they premier league quality' right now, the only question for GON is which one of the substandard keepers starts. Based on what we saw of Scherpen he looked pony, he couldn't kick for toffee, let in some really soft goals, and nobody appeared to have any confidence in him.
I don't think we've defended badly for the most part as a collective. Its always going to be a balance between defensive solidity and attacking intent, but I don't think we've got it too far wrong. We're just making far too many individual errors, and not just at the back.
Ultimately, 11 points from 10 games. 1.1 ppg, over a season that's 42 points which would be enough. 5 home, 5 away, and a pretty reasonable cross section of the PL. I think we're pretty much where most people would've expected us to be aren't we?
Did GON sign Scherpen or did he inherit him? I don’t recall such was the hustle and bustle of summer signings but assume he didn’t sign him given he was so quick to bomb him out. Either way, looks like he was signed for not much other reason than he’s 6’9. Do we have the data gurus from Goalkeeper.com still guiding us?
It's funny how this board mood has changed following a couple of difficult results, however we are competing far better than we did in 2024/5, and we are generally in games for far longer than we were. The big issue is mistakes, avoidable mistakes - if we can cut those out then we will improve.
Developing players in the forward line - not sure that holds, although you could argue players are always developing and adapting? I would argue that both Fatuwa, Enciso are full internationals who have played at a World Cup and in the PL previously, Jaden again is now 24 and played in PL and Championship levels etc. They are learning to play together in a new team which is the challenge. Emersonn is without doubt a raw talent and Flemming may get his chance after tjhe break, but not sure an experienced centre forward was available for us within the funds etc
I would take post match interviews with a pinch of salt vs conversations that occur in the dressing room - a good manager does not air certain views in public without speaking with players first, that would be unprofessional - he's not really different to KM in that aspect.
The whole LCB / RCB is less relevant when defending, becomes more important when we play out from the back - but we usually set ourselves up for that better.
Finally the goalkeeper "situation" - we have a couple of average GKs in Walton and Palmer (maybe Walton above average), plus I consider a relative unknown still in Scherpen as I feel he is certainly no worse than Walton at least but needs more of a chance.
As for this season, I am going to reserve judgement on how the team performs until we see what I think is the first choice in the centre, ie Lukic alongside Palacios - this will add the better balance in front of the defence. The big challenge is about squad depth, we only have a squad of about 15-17 who can compete at this level, when we lose a key player we may struggle - for example, the loss of Lukic has been a significant impact in last few matches.
Just 3 gripes with O'neil on 21:50 - Nov 9 by J2BLUE
Disagree. I think he sees the bigger picture and the potential we have. I can't stand being on here during games anymore as people micro analyse every misplaced pass. For me it's about the season, not individual games. I think we're holding our own. We've made mistakes, and there are a few things to address but I think we have a real chance to stay up.
Just 3 gripes with O'neil on 10:02 - Nov 10 by bsw72
It's funny how this board mood has changed following a couple of difficult results, however we are competing far better than we did in 2024/5, and we are generally in games for far longer than we were. The big issue is mistakes, avoidable mistakes - if we can cut those out then we will improve.
Developing players in the forward line - not sure that holds, although you could argue players are always developing and adapting? I would argue that both Fatuwa, Enciso are full internationals who have played at a World Cup and in the PL previously, Jaden again is now 24 and played in PL and Championship levels etc. They are learning to play together in a new team which is the challenge. Emersonn is without doubt a raw talent and Flemming may get his chance after tjhe break, but not sure an experienced centre forward was available for us within the funds etc
I would take post match interviews with a pinch of salt vs conversations that occur in the dressing room - a good manager does not air certain views in public without speaking with players first, that would be unprofessional - he's not really different to KM in that aspect.
The whole LCB / RCB is less relevant when defending, becomes more important when we play out from the back - but we usually set ourselves up for that better.
Finally the goalkeeper "situation" - we have a couple of average GKs in Walton and Palmer (maybe Walton above average), plus I consider a relative unknown still in Scherpen as I feel he is certainly no worse than Walton at least but needs more of a chance.
As for this season, I am going to reserve judgement on how the team performs until we see what I think is the first choice in the centre, ie Lukic alongside Palacios - this will add the better balance in front of the defence. The big challenge is about squad depth, we only have a squad of about 15-17 who can compete at this level, when we lose a key player we may struggle - for example, the loss of Lukic has been a significant impact in last few matches.
Not even a couple really. At 14:04 on Sunday we'd made a really bright start against Europa League opposition and one of the in form teams in the division, and we were 1 defeat in 4 (a respectable 3-2 at the Etihad).
Fast forward 1 minute and Walton's dropped a b0llock and we're going down.
Just 3 gripes with O'neil on 12:55 - Nov 10 by _CliveBaker_
Not even a couple really. At 14:04 on Sunday we'd made a really bright start against Europa League opposition and one of the in form teams in the division, and we were 1 defeat in 4 (a respectable 3-2 at the Etihad).
Fast forward 1 minute and Walton's dropped a b0llock and we're going down.
I don't think there's been much unhappiness with things, I think we're close, very close, as i said in my op at times on sunday we looked like a stable prem club. There is that missing element, which hopefully will either come with jan signings, or O'neil makes some balance changes.
I'm skeptical to say the least that Walts was meant to be our first choice this year albeit I can understand GON saying what he said. Unless I'm misremembering, he featured hardly at all in 23-24 and 24-25 and only got back into the team part way through 25-26 when Palmer pulled up injured during a home match (can't recall against who). To be fair to Walts he took his chance and deservedly then kept his spot during the remainder of that season and played a not insignificant part in getting us promoted. However, I think we've all seen enough to know that, on balance, it's probably fair to say that he's not quite at the level of being an established prem keeper: he makes some excellent saves and let's in some soft goals in fairly equal measure, and isn't great on the ball albeit he's arguably improved in that respect. I can only presume Scherpen was brought in to be first choice which in itself was risky bearing in mind his relative inexperience and the league he played in. But on balance, I think I would have stuck with him slightly longer. All in all I wouldn't be surprised to see us offload Palmer and anor in Jan if we can attract a new first choice proven prem keeper. It's such an important position and so much rides on us staying up this season.
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