| Can anyone defend Labour? 18:31 - Sep 25 with 5736 views | Bluefish |
They are shamefully trying to destroy all brexit negotiations enough the destabilise the UK into an early General Election. This is bigger than party politics this is everyone's future being put at risk, we cannot afford for this during brexit. They should be putting the UK before their mad power grab.
To make matters worse they are saying that option A is not good enough and option B is too dangerous but at the same time saying we must give the public option B and then saying they will give the public the choice of a b or c all over again. It is bonkers and bloody dangerous to be playing a suicide card on the finances and futures just to desperately grab power and then align themselves with people that won't get in their way of driving a cross of dictatorship and all at the bottom socialism |  |
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| Can anyone defend Labour? on 18:35 - Sep 25 with 2583 views | SpruceMoose |
A new referendum you say? Excellent! |  |
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"Imagine being a heterosexual white male in Britain at this moment. How bad is that. Everything you say is racist, everything you say is homophobic. The Woke community have really f****d this country." | | Poll: | Selectamod |
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| Can anyone defend Labour? on 18:53 - Sep 25 with 2544 views | handslikeplates |
The Conservative Party at the same time have done nothing to disrupt their own Brexit negotiations. |  | | |
| Can anyone defend Labour? on 18:55 - Sep 25 with 2542 views | Binner |
Twenty-seven months since the referendum and our 'party of government' have spent the whole time infighting and jostling for position as future leader rather than work out a workable Brexit strategy. And you say that Labour are shameful and should be putting the country first? |  |
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| Can anyone defend Labour? on 18:56 - Sep 25 with 2532 views | Sporall |
An opposition party. In opposition. Who would have thought it. |  | | |
| Can anyone defend Labour? on 18:56 - Sep 25 with 2528 views | SpruceMoose |
| Can anyone defend Labour? on 18:55 - Sep 25 by Binner |
Twenty-seven months since the referendum and our 'party of government' have spent the whole time infighting and jostling for position as future leader rather than work out a workable Brexit strategy. And you say that Labour are shameful and should be putting the country first? |
Sadly, time and time again, it is proven that hypocrisy is rife on the right. It's always do what I say not as I do with that lot. | |
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| Can anyone defend Labour? on 18:59 - Sep 25 with 2515 views | Bluefish |
| Can anyone defend Labour? on 18:56 - Sep 25 by Sporall |
An opposition party. In opposition. Who would have thought it. |
This is my point though. It shouldn't be about opposition at this time it should be about securing the best future for the UK. They are trying the capitalised on the mess for their own gain | |
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| Can anyone defend Labour? on 19:00 - Sep 25 with 2507 views | Bluefish |
| Can anyone defend Labour? on 18:53 - Sep 25 by handslikeplates |
The Conservative Party at the same time have done nothing to disrupt their own Brexit negotiations. |
The in fighting is obvious though when the country is divided. Labour have finally spoken and now we are seeing their own in fighting. Brexit is impossible to please everyone so we need all parties to pull together until it is finished | |
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| Can anyone defend Labour? on 19:02 - Sep 25 with 2491 views | SpruceMoose |
| Can anyone defend Labour? on 18:59 - Sep 25 by Bluefish |
This is my point though. It shouldn't be about opposition at this time it should be about securing the best future for the UK. They are trying the capitalised on the mess for their own gain |
Well that's one way of looking at it. The other is that they are positioning themselves to head in a direction that they think would be better for the country, as directed by their members.
I think the Brexiteers and the Tory Party panic levels have increased somewhat today. | |
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| Can anyone defend Labour? on 19:09 - Sep 25 with 2474 views | Bluefish |
| Can anyone defend Labour? on 19:02 - Sep 25 by SpruceMoose |
Well that's one way of looking at it. The other is that they are positioning themselves to head in a direction that they think would be better for the country, as directed by their members.
I think the Brexiteers and the Tory Party panic levels have increased somewhat today. |
They have suggestion a complete referendum again which goes against their leaders wishes. They would be an utter shambles too at leading brexit. Their timing of trying to force a GE and refusal to cooperate or give a party opinion shows they don't care about anything else but grabbing power by exploiting our weakness as a country. | |
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| Can anyone defend Labour? on 19:09 - Sep 25 with 2473 views | Pinewoodblue |
Labour will attempt to vote down whatever Theressa May puts to parliament. It isn't about Brexit it is just a way of forcing an election on an electorate who, in the whole, don't want it.
If we have another election then both major parties will go into it have alienated around 50% of their supporters. The result will no doubt be inconclusive.
Labour also risk the chance of a significant number of MPs standing as independent candidates.
One strange aspect of this conference is the number of people not clapping at key points, Dennis Skinner was not happy.
Guess if we have a Labour government they will not try and persuade the people either way on a referendum, where is the leadership in that? |  |
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| Can anyone defend Labour? on 19:09 - Sep 25 with 2471 views | giant_stow |
I thought you were against brexit? |  |
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| Can anyone defend Labour? on 19:10 - Sep 25 with 2463 views | giant_stow |
| Can anyone defend Labour? on 18:59 - Sep 25 by Bluefish |
This is my point though. It shouldn't be about opposition at this time it should be about securing the best future for the UK. They are trying the capitalised on the mess for their own gain |
securing the best future = kissing brexit right off. | |
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| Can anyone defend Labour? on 19:14 - Sep 25 with 2443 views | bournemouthblue |
| Can anyone defend Labour? on 18:53 - Sep 25 by handslikeplates |
The Conservative Party at the same time have done nothing to disrupt their own Brexit negotiations. |
The whole referendum was a result of Tory in fighting
Then the charletons who campaigned for Brexit fled the season after they won and left the likes of May to try and handle the mess
It has gone predictably badly but of course it's Labour's fault
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| Can anyone defend Labour? on 19:15 - Sep 25 with 2440 views | Bluefish |
| Can anyone defend Labour? on 19:09 - Sep 25 by giant_stow |
I thought you were against brexit? |
Brexit is an awful idea as is Labour not sure which will make us poorer. I don't think a remain option would be wise though, it would never work so a soft brexit would be better option | |
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| Can anyone defend Labour? on 19:19 - Sep 25 with 2426 views | giant_stow |
| Can anyone defend Labour? on 19:15 - Sep 25 by Bluefish |
Brexit is an awful idea as is Labour not sure which will make us poorer. I don't think a remain option would be wise though, it would never work so a soft brexit would be better option |
I agree with the first bit, but have a feeling soft brexit would solve nothing bar the immediate economic danger (a little), leaving the same political mess. It would also leave us with even less 'sovereignty' than now. One side has to win I think, or it'll be endless bickering. All this process has shown is how good a deal we currently have imho. | |
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| Can anyone defend Labour? on 19:22 - Sep 25 with 2415 views | Binner |
| Can anyone defend Labour? on 19:15 - Sep 25 by Bluefish |
Brexit is an awful idea as is Labour not sure which will make us poorer. I don't think a remain option would be wise though, it would never work so a soft brexit would be better option |
A disastrous government can be voted out.
A disastrous Brexit we are stuck with. | |
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| Can anyone defend Labour? on 19:25 - Sep 25 with 2403 views | Bluefish |
| Can anyone defend Labour? on 19:22 - Sep 25 by Binner |
A disastrous government can be voted out.
A disastrous Brexit we are stuck with. |
A disastrous government can't be voted out for 5 years*
*unless the country is brought to the ground | |
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| Can anyone defend Labour? on 19:27 - Sep 25 with 2393 views | SpruceMoose |
| Can anyone defend Labour? on 19:25 - Sep 25 by Bluefish |
A disastrous government can't be voted out for 5 years*
*unless the country is brought to the ground |
See? Project Fear is up and running again! | |
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| Can anyone defend Labour? on 19:28 - Sep 25 with 2392 views | Bluefish |
| Can anyone defend Labour? on 19:19 - Sep 25 by giant_stow |
I agree with the first bit, but have a feeling soft brexit would solve nothing bar the immediate economic danger (a little), leaving the same political mess. It would also leave us with even less 'sovereignty' than now. One side has to win I think, or it'll be endless bickering. All this process has shown is how good a deal we currently have imho. |
That is why a 2nd vote needs to happen but without remain being an option. Just 2 concrete choices fully spelled out.
Yes the out lot will moan about a lack of democracy and their vote being ignored but ultimately all moderates will ignore them until they lose interest again in politics | |
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| Can anyone defend Labour? on 19:29 - Sep 25 with 2381 views | Binner |
| Can anyone defend Labour? on 19:25 - Sep 25 by Bluefish |
A disastrous government can't be voted out for 5 years*
*unless the country is brought to the ground |
So we're stuck with them for four more years. | |
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| Can anyone defend Labour? on 19:32 - Sep 25 with 2363 views | Bluefish |
| Can anyone defend Labour? on 19:29 - Sep 25 by Binner |
So we're stuck with them for four more years. |
This goes back to the original point of Labour trying to bring the country to the ground at our most vulnerable point for their own gain. Similar has happen before but this one is not reversible | |
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| Can anyone defend Labour? on 19:32 - Sep 25 with 2360 views | SpruceMoose |
| Can anyone defend Labour? on 19:28 - Sep 25 by Bluefish |
That is why a 2nd vote needs to happen but without remain being an option. Just 2 concrete choices fully spelled out.
Yes the out lot will moan about a lack of democracy and their vote being ignored but ultimately all moderates will ignore them until they lose interest again in politics |
You've had all this time to set out a vision for what post-Brexit Britain will look like and the Brexiteer lot have jaffed it right up, through infighting and general stupidity.
Now that it looks like the tide is turning back towards those sun lit uploads of European sensibleness, they are having a right old flounce. It's really quite delightful.
Looking forward to my passport staying burgundy, my movement staying free and the EU flagging flying all across the British Isles.
Now that's patriotism, that's Rule Britannia Baby! | |
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| Can anyone defend Labour? on 19:35 - Sep 25 with 2356 views | Bluefish |
| Can anyone defend Labour? on 19:32 - Sep 25 by SpruceMoose |
You've had all this time to set out a vision for what post-Brexit Britain will look like and the Brexiteer lot have jaffed it right up, through infighting and general stupidity.
Now that it looks like the tide is turning back towards those sun lit uploads of European sensibleness, they are having a right old flounce. It's really quite delightful.
Looking forward to my passport staying burgundy, my movement staying free and the EU flagging flying all across the British Isles.
Now that's patriotism, that's Rule Britannia Baby! |
I'm with you yank man. I want to travel the world drinking their beer and I want their women to keep our high streets looking beautiful. Oxford street was an absolute delight at the weekend. | |
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| Can anyone defend Labour? on 19:42 - Sep 25 with 2323 views | SpruceMoose |
| Can anyone defend Labour? on 19:35 - Sep 25 by Bluefish |
I'm with you yank man. I want to travel the world drinking their beer and I want their women to keep our high streets looking beautiful. Oxford street was an absolute delight at the weekend. |
Too right! Gap toothed hags out, free jiggling Scandies in! | |
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"Imagine being a heterosexual white male in Britain at this moment. How bad is that. Everything you say is racist, everything you say is homophobic. The Woke community have really f****d this country." | | Poll: | Selectamod |
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| "this is everyone's future being put at risk" LOOOOOL on 19:44 - Sep 25 with 2309 views | keighleyblue |
"Dictatorship"
"Mad power grab"
"Destabilise the UK"
The complete polar opposite of the riches and prosperity that brexit will deliver to the rank and file, then |  | | |
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