Apparently 09:01 - Jun 15 with 1515 views | factual_blue | 'There is "much more that we need to do" to tackle racism,boris johnson has said' according to the BBC website, reporting his article in the daily barclaygraph. How about (metaphorically) throwing a Prime Minister who has written of piccaninnies and 'watermelon smiles' into Bristol Dock? |  |
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Apparently on 09:13 - Jun 15 with 1449 views | WeWereZombies | And then you get Dominic Raab or Priti Patel as Prime Minister? |  |
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Apparently on 09:19 - Jun 15 with 1428 views | BlueNomad |
Apparently on 09:13 - Jun 15 by WeWereZombies | And then you get Dominic Raab or Priti Patel as Prime Minister? |
That is the problem. His successor would come from this miserable crew. |  | |  |
Apparently on 09:35 - Jun 15 with 1398 views | Oldsmoker | Johnson is going to create a commission to look at racial equality. It seems so much has changed since the last report on racial equality that we have to ignore that report and produce a new one. I don't think much has changed at all. The same barriers are still there for BAME people. What won't have changed will be the rhetoric, the 'promise' that the review will be implemented. The last report produced no new laws of any merit that could be said to promote racial equality. The report did not recommend a hostile environment should be introduced but that is what happened. Johnson is kicking the problem into the long grass. If the head of the commission is white then it will serve the one purpose it is intended for - to move the conversation to a later date or the Tory preference of not having the conversation at all. |  |
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Apparently on 09:37 - Jun 15 with 1393 views | Chutney |
Apparently on 09:35 - Jun 15 by Oldsmoker | Johnson is going to create a commission to look at racial equality. It seems so much has changed since the last report on racial equality that we have to ignore that report and produce a new one. I don't think much has changed at all. The same barriers are still there for BAME people. What won't have changed will be the rhetoric, the 'promise' that the review will be implemented. The last report produced no new laws of any merit that could be said to promote racial equality. The report did not recommend a hostile environment should be introduced but that is what happened. Johnson is kicking the problem into the long grass. If the head of the commission is white then it will serve the one purpose it is intended for - to move the conversation to a later date or the Tory preference of not having the conversation at all. |
If the head of the commission is white then it will serve the one purpose it is intended for - to move the conversation to a later date or the Tory preference of not having the conversation at all. What a load of b0llocks. |  | |  |
Apparently on 09:48 - Jun 15 with 1358 views | Oldsmoker |
Apparently on 09:37 - Jun 15 by Chutney | If the head of the commission is white then it will serve the one purpose it is intended for - to move the conversation to a later date or the Tory preference of not having the conversation at all. What a load of b0llocks. |
Time will tell. Please explain all the leaps forward that were implemented after the Stephen Lawrence report. |  |
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Apparently on 09:56 - Jun 15 with 1323 views | Chutney |
Apparently on 09:48 - Jun 15 by Oldsmoker | Time will tell. Please explain all the leaps forward that were implemented after the Stephen Lawrence report. |
How have you gone from suggesting that a white person isn't capable of leading such an investigation, presumably because you believe that no white person can be impartial and are all racist to some degree, to asking me to defend one historic investigation? Spectacular straw manning. |  | |  |
Apparently on 10:23 - Jun 15 with 1279 views | Oldsmoker |
Apparently on 09:56 - Jun 15 by Chutney | How have you gone from suggesting that a white person isn't capable of leading such an investigation, presumably because you believe that no white person can be impartial and are all racist to some degree, to asking me to defend one historic investigation? Spectacular straw manning. |
The government already have enough laws to use to help the BAME communities. They just need to implement them in a compassionate manner. By creating a commission they will wait until it is finished - 12 months, 18 months, when? In the meantime they will do nothing just like they did nothing until the Grenfell report was completed and then surprise, surprise not much since. 3 years and still people are in temporary accomodation and there are some 3,000+ households in tower blocks with dodgy cladding. Having a BAME judge, there are many to choose from, would give people some confidence that the government was taking it seriously. |  |
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Apparently on 10:28 - Jun 15 with 1254 views | Keno | so you want to go to the West Country just to toss Boris off in a dockyard? |  |
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Apparently on 10:32 - Jun 15 with 1242 views | Oldsmoker | What would a statue of Boris Johnson look like? A scupltor would find it very diffiult to capture his 'hairstyle'. |  |
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Apparently on 10:33 - Jun 15 with 1236 views | Keno |
Apparently on 10:32 - Jun 15 by Oldsmoker | What would a statue of Boris Johnson look like? A scupltor would find it very diffiult to capture his 'hairstyle'. |
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Apparently on 10:35 - Jun 15 with 1235 views | Radlett_blue | It would be good if action taken could deal with the real issue of improving the circumstances of minorities, rather than obsessing over statues, blue plaques and street names. |  |
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Apparently on 11:08 - Jun 15 with 1201 views | factual_blue |
Apparently on 09:35 - Jun 15 by Oldsmoker | Johnson is going to create a commission to look at racial equality. It seems so much has changed since the last report on racial equality that we have to ignore that report and produce a new one. I don't think much has changed at all. The same barriers are still there for BAME people. What won't have changed will be the rhetoric, the 'promise' that the review will be implemented. The last report produced no new laws of any merit that could be said to promote racial equality. The report did not recommend a hostile environment should be introduced but that is what happened. Johnson is kicking the problem into the long grass. If the head of the commission is white then it will serve the one purpose it is intended for - to move the conversation to a later date or the Tory preference of not having the conversation at all. |
How it will work. Commission sits, produces report. The report says money has to be spent. tories say 'we can't afford to make our well-off supporters pay more tax'. Problem forgotten. |  |
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Apparently on 17:16 - Jun 15 with 1137 views | Pendejo |
Apparently on 10:28 - Jun 15 by Keno | so you want to go to the West Country just to toss Boris off in a dockyard? |
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Apparently on 17:21 - Jun 15 with 1134 views | catch74 |
Apparently on 09:19 - Jun 15 by BlueNomad | That is the problem. His successor would come from this miserable crew. |
Rishi Sunak. I’m not a conservative voter but he’s impressed me so far during lockdown. |  |
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Apparently on 17:36 - Jun 15 with 1120 views | Darth_Koont | 1. Lip service 2. Talk about the lip service 3. Set up an enquiry into future lip service 4. Confirm that the enquiry shows that there is "much more that we need to do" 5. Hope people stop talking about it 6. Repeat There is no indication that Boris or anyone else in the Conservative party wants to address racism or the structural inequalities that feed into it. They'll get more politically and personally by encouraging division, ethnic nationalism and identity politics. |  |
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Apparently on 17:42 - Jun 15 with 1097 views | BanksterDebtSlave |
Apparently on 09:56 - Jun 15 by Chutney | How have you gone from suggesting that a white person isn't capable of leading such an investigation, presumably because you believe that no white person can be impartial and are all racist to some degree, to asking me to defend one historic investigation? Spectacular straw manning. |
Don't you have a statue to attend to? |  |
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Apparently on 17:43 - Jun 15 with 1095 views | gordon |
Apparently on 17:21 - Jun 15 by catch74 | Rishi Sunak. I’m not a conservative voter but he’s impressed me so far during lockdown. |
Agree he's the only competent one, but he'd struggle with the members in any leadership contest surely? |  | |  |
Apparently on 18:58 - Jun 15 with 1053 views | solomon |
Apparently on 17:43 - Jun 15 by gordon | Agree he's the only competent one, but he'd struggle with the members in any leadership contest surely? |
In the land of the blind, the one eyed man is king. |  | |  |
Apparently on 19:07 - Jun 15 with 1037 views | Swansea_Blue |
Apparently on 09:35 - Jun 15 by Oldsmoker | Johnson is going to create a commission to look at racial equality. It seems so much has changed since the last report on racial equality that we have to ignore that report and produce a new one. I don't think much has changed at all. The same barriers are still there for BAME people. What won't have changed will be the rhetoric, the 'promise' that the review will be implemented. The last report produced no new laws of any merit that could be said to promote racial equality. The report did not recommend a hostile environment should be introduced but that is what happened. Johnson is kicking the problem into the long grass. If the head of the commission is white then it will serve the one purpose it is intended for - to move the conversation to a later date or the Tory preference of not having the conversation at all. |
Not just report in singular is it? there are a whole bunch of reports released after reviews into institutional racism in the UK. Lammy was pointing them all out this morning and highlighting that none of the recommendations (there are well over 150-200ish) have been implemented. Kicking it into the long grass indeed. Have another inquiry, drag it out and then it's either someone else's problem or if they complete it within this parliament they can just shelve it with the Russian report. |  |
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Apparently on 15:48 - Jun 16 with 934 views | Libero |
Apparently on 17:21 - Jun 15 by catch74 | Rishi Sunak. I’m not a conservative voter but he’s impressed me so far during lockdown. |
I'm wary of the fact that he's had to deliver the best news of lockdown with his stimulus package, it somewhat elevates him from the rest of the crowd just by nature of everything else being so f*cking hopeless, confusing or negative. |  | |  |
Apparently on 16:44 - Jun 16 with 880 views | Oldsmoker |
Apparently on 19:07 - Jun 15 by Swansea_Blue | Not just report in singular is it? there are a whole bunch of reports released after reviews into institutional racism in the UK. Lammy was pointing them all out this morning and highlighting that none of the recommendations (there are well over 150-200ish) have been implemented. Kicking it into the long grass indeed. Have another inquiry, drag it out and then it's either someone else's problem or if they complete it within this parliament they can just shelve it with the Russian report. |
I was going to mention the Lammy report, which was the latest offering, but as he's a Labour politician I thought I'd be opening myself up to the 'not impartial' tag and introducing whataboutery. Most of the recommendations in Lammys report are just a repitition of what's been said in previous reports which illustrates that little is achieved by these inquiries apart from kicking the can down the road. |  |
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Apparently on 17:53 - Jun 16 with 823 views | Swansea_Blue |
Apparently on 16:44 - Jun 16 by Oldsmoker | I was going to mention the Lammy report, which was the latest offering, but as he's a Labour politician I thought I'd be opening myself up to the 'not impartial' tag and introducing whataboutery. Most of the recommendations in Lammys report are just a repitition of what's been said in previous reports which illustrates that little is achieved by these inquiries apart from kicking the can down the road. |
You should have mentioned it. What he was talkng about yesterday was very much cross-party, yet nothing has apparently come from the 201 recommendations out of these 4 recent, separate reviews into institutional racism in the UK: - His own review - Labour, obviously - Angelini review - apolitical lawyer Home Office review - Independent review by Wendy Williams on behalf of the then Home Sec, Javid Baroness McGregor-Smith review - Tory life peer |  |
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Apparently on 18:16 - Jun 16 with 793 views | Oldsmoker |
Apparently on 17:53 - Jun 16 by Swansea_Blue | You should have mentioned it. What he was talkng about yesterday was very much cross-party, yet nothing has apparently come from the 201 recommendations out of these 4 recent, separate reviews into institutional racism in the UK: - His own review - Labour, obviously - Angelini review - apolitical lawyer Home Office review - Independent review by Wendy Williams on behalf of the then Home Sec, Javid Baroness McGregor-Smith review - Tory life peer |
I don't think Chutney wanted a debate as his opening salvo was "B0llocks" and his second was accusing me of strawmanning which didn't contribute either. In a strange way, Chutney did contribute by illustrating the sort of conversation BAME people get when they raise the subject of racism. |  |
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