| England had highest levels of excess deaths in Europe between end Feb-mid June on 11:23 - Jul 30 with 1524 views | StokieBlue |
Thanks for posting the humidity article.
It's very preliminary and does state that more research is needed. If true then Brazil and Mexico are doing even worse that we think given Mexico City has 81% humidity today and Sau Paulo has 90% and both are doing awfully with C19.
Certainly given similar research with other coranaviruses it's got merit as a theory. I guess we won't totally confirm it for another year and a full seasonal cycle has been round.
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| England had highest levels of excess deaths in Europe between end Feb-mid June on 11:30 - Jul 30 with 1508 views | Ryorry |
| England had highest levels of excess deaths in Europe between end Feb-mid June on 11:23 - Jul 30 by StokieBlue |
Thanks for posting the humidity article.
It's very preliminary and does state that more research is needed. If true then Brazil and Mexico are doing even worse that we think given Mexico City has 81% humidity today and Sau Paulo has 90% and both are doing awfully with C19.
Certainly given similar research with other coranaviruses it's got merit as a theory. I guess we won't totally confirm it for another year and a full seasonal cycle has been round.
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Yes, it's very early days. There's another article here which suggests that it's not just a question of the atmosphere in which the virus spreads, but "the immune response to viruses (being) less efficient in drier conditions."
https://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/how-humidity-may-affect-covid-19-outco
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| England had highest levels of excess deaths in Europe between end Feb-mid June on 12:01 - Jul 30 with 1470 views | BlueBadger |
| England had highest levels of excess deaths in Europe between end Feb-mid June on 11:30 - Jul 30 by Ryorry |
Yes, it's very early days. There's another article here which suggests that it's not just a question of the atmosphere in which the virus spreads, but "the immune response to viruses (being) less efficient in drier conditions."
https://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/how-humidity-may-affect-covid-19-outco
(article written 02/04/2020) |
We've seem to be seeing noticeably better responses in those who we've treated with humidified oxygen/aggressive nebuliser therapy early round our way. Normally we'd try a few days of 'dry' oxygen when escalating O2 therapy to things like NIV or ventilation but we're sticking them straight onto 'wet' circuits at the moment with our ITU patents at [redacted]. |  |
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| England had highest levels of excess deaths in Europe between end Feb-mid June on 16:24 - Jul 30 with 1402 views | ElephantintheRoom |
And if you add in two other countries in the top 5 - Scotland and Wales, things look a tad bleak.
The main point from all this data, which is a bit premature, but paints a fairly accurate picture is that most countries,k nowing that a pandemic was coming, managed to restrict the major outbreaks to certain areas.
The Uk, taking no precautions and seeding infections into care homes to double down on their cavalier approach managed to achieve nationwide infections from the scilly isles to the orknies.
And there is no evidence to suggest that anything is much under control now either. |  |
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| England had highest levels of excess deaths in Europe between end Feb-mid June on 16:28 - Jul 30 with 1388 views | StokieBlue |
| England had highest levels of excess deaths in Europe between end Feb-mid June on 16:24 - Jul 30 by ElephantintheRoom |
And if you add in two other countries in the top 5 - Scotland and Wales, things look a tad bleak.
The main point from all this data, which is a bit premature, but paints a fairly accurate picture is that most countries,k nowing that a pandemic was coming, managed to restrict the major outbreaks to certain areas.
The Uk, taking no precautions and seeding infections into care homes to double down on their cavalier approach managed to achieve nationwide infections from the scilly isles to the orknies.
And there is no evidence to suggest that anything is much under control now either. |
Do you care to go back and address the absolute rubbish you posted on C19 trends yesterday?
It's tiresome to see you post rubbish day after day and never respond to the legitimate criticism sent your way.
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| England had highest levels of excess deaths in Europe between end Feb-mid June on 16:34 - Jul 30 with 1377 views | ElephantintheRoom |
| England had highest levels of excess deaths in Europe between end Feb-mid June on 16:28 - Jul 30 by StokieBlue |
Do you care to go back and address the absolute rubbish you posted on C19 trends yesterday?
It's tiresome to see you post rubbish day after day and never respond to the legitimate criticism sent your way.
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Not quite as tiresome as your deluded and ignorant input.
just becaue I have the benefit of a lifetime spent working in healthcare - and a deep understanding of infectious disease does not make your warped idiocy any less absurd
I dont mind you being an idiot... nor boasting about your idiocy.... but it would be best if you became acquainted with reality and facts - you give ITFC a bad name | |
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| England had highest levels of excess deaths in Europe between end Feb-mid June on 16:40 - Jul 30 with 1368 views | StokieBlue |
| England had highest levels of excess deaths in Europe between end Feb-mid June on 16:34 - Jul 30 by ElephantintheRoom |
Not quite as tiresome as your deluded and ignorant input.
just becaue I have the benefit of a lifetime spent working in healthcare - and a deep understanding of infectious disease does not make your warped idiocy any less absurd
I dont mind you being an idiot... nor boasting about your idiocy.... but it would be best if you became acquainted with reality and facts - you give ITFC a bad name |
You'll need more lives than a cat if your input on here is the result of a lifetime in healthcare.
I'd also recommend a course in modelling and stats given your hopeless posts yesterday.
Now it would be nice if you actually addressed the points rather than go on a insult laden rant.
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| England had highest levels of excess deaths in Europe between end Feb-mid June on 16:58 - Jul 30 with 1336 views | ElephantintheRoom |
| England had highest levels of excess deaths in Europe between end Feb-mid June on 16:40 - Jul 30 by StokieBlue |
You'll need more lives than a cat if your input on here is the result of a lifetime in healthcare.
I'd also recommend a course in modelling and stats given your hopeless posts yesterday.
Now it would be nice if you actually addressed the points rather than go on a insult laden rant.
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I'm sorry to have to point out reality to you once more but 'modelling and stats' are theories - and theories that have not stood up well in previous pandemics nor in this one.
What is happening in the USA, Brazil and other countries right now is reality - including the UK, where the lack of testing is warping people's beliefs into just how prevalent the disease still is - or not. However even an idiot like you ought to be able to grasp the concept of size of country, population dynamics and, spread across that country with infections rising if very few control measuress are in places.... and the undenaible FACT that the UK is still the worst place in the world to be, just about.... although I grant you Brazil might be a bit iffy,
Another piece of reality you might like to consider is the recently released data on excess deaths in Europe.... conveniently not adding Scotland and Wales, nor indeed NI to the table-topping performance of England.... and the concept of controlling local infections.
Where is Sweden in that data? A country that elected to not follow hysterical modelling. | |
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| England had highest levels of excess deaths in Europe between end Feb-mid June on 17:00 - Jul 30 with 1324 views | SpruceMoose |
| England had highest levels of excess deaths in Europe between end Feb-mid June on 16:58 - Jul 30 by ElephantintheRoom |
I'm sorry to have to point out reality to you once more but 'modelling and stats' are theories - and theories that have not stood up well in previous pandemics nor in this one.
What is happening in the USA, Brazil and other countries right now is reality - including the UK, where the lack of testing is warping people's beliefs into just how prevalent the disease still is - or not. However even an idiot like you ought to be able to grasp the concept of size of country, population dynamics and, spread across that country with infections rising if very few control measuress are in places.... and the undenaible FACT that the UK is still the worst place in the world to be, just about.... although I grant you Brazil might be a bit iffy,
Another piece of reality you might like to consider is the recently released data on excess deaths in Europe.... conveniently not adding Scotland and Wales, nor indeed NI to the table-topping performance of England.... and the concept of controlling local infections.
Where is Sweden in that data? A country that elected to not follow hysterical modelling. |
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| England had highest levels of excess deaths in Europe between end Feb-mid June on 17:08 - Jul 30 with 1298 views | bluelagos |
| England had highest levels of excess deaths in Europe between end Feb-mid June on 16:58 - Jul 30 by ElephantintheRoom |
I'm sorry to have to point out reality to you once more but 'modelling and stats' are theories - and theories that have not stood up well in previous pandemics nor in this one.
What is happening in the USA, Brazil and other countries right now is reality - including the UK, where the lack of testing is warping people's beliefs into just how prevalent the disease still is - or not. However even an idiot like you ought to be able to grasp the concept of size of country, population dynamics and, spread across that country with infections rising if very few control measuress are in places.... and the undenaible FACT that the UK is still the worst place in the world to be, just about.... although I grant you Brazil might be a bit iffy,
Another piece of reality you might like to consider is the recently released data on excess deaths in Europe.... conveniently not adding Scotland and Wales, nor indeed NI to the table-topping performance of England.... and the concept of controlling local infections.
Where is Sweden in that data? A country that elected to not follow hysterical modelling. |
I'm sorry to have to point out reality to you once more but 'modelling and stats' are theories - and theories that have not stood up well in previous pandemics nor in this one.
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I know a bit about this having studied Systems Modelling at Uni (Poly) 30 years ago. Including a section on disease modelling. (we modeled the Plague)
Modelling is a method to model (in this case) a disease. It is based on a number of assumptions and like all assumptions there will be estimates / inaccuracies. So the models in question will be the best estimate based on the information available, no more no less.
No one is suggesting the models are 100% accurate, but they are the best available estimates of how a disease will spread. The disease modellers will often project a range of outcomes and of course if an action or outside influence happens, then the models will be revised.
To label them "hysterical" simply shows your ignorance of what they are, how they are pulled together and what they mean. |  |
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| England had highest levels of excess deaths in Europe between end Feb-mid June on 17:16 - Jul 30 with 1277 views | Ryorry |
| England had highest levels of excess deaths in Europe between end Feb-mid June on 12:01 - Jul 30 by BlueBadger |
We've seem to be seeing noticeably better responses in those who we've treated with humidified oxygen/aggressive nebuliser therapy early round our way. Normally we'd try a few days of 'dry' oxygen when escalating O2 therapy to things like NIV or ventilation but we're sticking them straight onto 'wet' circuits at the moment with our ITU patents at [redacted]. |
That's good to hear. Would be great if your hosp's results were collated along with those of others - any likelihood of that happening? | |
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