| Schools are safe - Boris Johnson edition 22:30 - Sep 7 with 1903 views | ElderGrizzly |
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| Schools are safe - Boris Johnson edition on 22:32 - Sep 7 with 1871 views | jaykay |
so you can pass it on, months after you have got over it. |  |
| forensic experts say footers and spruces fingerprints were not found at the scene after the weekends rows |
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| Schools are safe - Boris Johnson edition on 22:41 - Sep 7 with 1848 views | ElderGrizzly |
| Schools are safe - Boris Johnson edition on 22:32 - Sep 7 by jaykay |
so you can pass it on, months after you have got over it. |
He is the Super Spreader | | | |
| Schools are safe - Boris Johnson edition on 22:42 - Sep 7 with 1839 views | 26_Paz |
Do you think that all schools should remain shut? |  |
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| Schools are safe - Boris Johnson edition on 22:49 - Sep 7 with 1826 views | ElderGrizzly |
| Schools are safe - Boris Johnson edition on 22:42 - Sep 7 by 26_Paz |
Do you think that all schools should remain shut? |
No, not at all.
They should just recognise that teachers and pupils should be following stricter social distancing and allow wider use of face coverings because Covid apparently doesn’t wait outside the school gates | | | |
| Schools are safe - Boris Johnson edition on 22:50 - Sep 7 with 1827 views | BlueBadger |
| Schools are safe - Boris Johnson edition on 22:42 - Sep 7 by 26_Paz |
Do you think that all schools should remain shut? |
I think we should have actually used the last six months to actually think about how we were going to achieve it, rather than just going 'off you go lads' two weeks beforehand.
Rolling rotas of remote lessons and time onsite, would have a decent start. [Post edited 8 Sep 2020 0:42]
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| Schools are safe - Boris Johnson edition on 23:03 - Sep 7 with 1784 views | Marshalls_Mullet |
Of course there will be some cases of Covid in school, get a grip man.
Why do posters like the fella on Twitter present to be so utterly stupid. |  |
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| Schools are safe - Boris Johnson edition on 23:05 - Sep 7 with 1771 views | Marshalls_Mullet |
| Schools are safe - Boris Johnson edition on 22:50 - Sep 7 by BlueBadger |
I think we should have actually used the last six months to actually think about how we were going to achieve it, rather than just going 'off you go lads' two weeks beforehand.
Rolling rotas of remote lessons and time onsite, would have a decent start. [Post edited 8 Sep 2020 0:42]
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I don't recall significant amounts of teachers being hospitalised by Covid pre lock down, or during lockdown. | |
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| Schools are safe - Boris Johnson edition on 00:01 - Sep 8 with 1706 views | Swansea_Blue |
| Schools are safe - Boris Johnson edition on 23:03 - Sep 7 by Marshalls_Mullet |
Of course there will be some cases of Covid in school, get a grip man.
Why do posters like the fella on Twitter present to be so utterly stupid. |
I think the aim is for there to be no coronavirus in schools (or elsewhere). We shouldn’t be normalising this (it isn’t normal). |  |
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| Schools are safe - Boris Johnson edition on 06:21 - Sep 8 with 1629 views | ElderGrizzly |
| Schools are safe - Boris Johnson edition on 23:05 - Sep 7 by Marshalls_Mullet |
I don't recall significant amounts of teachers being hospitalised by Covid pre lock down, or during lockdown. |
You don’t recall lots of teachers being hospitalised during lockdown? I wonder why... | | | |
| Schools are safe - Boris Johnson edition on 06:24 - Sep 8 with 1624 views | ElderGrizzly |
| Schools are safe - Boris Johnson edition on 00:01 - Sep 8 by Swansea_Blue |
I think the aim is for there to be no coronavirus in schools (or elsewhere). We shouldn’t be normalising this (it isn’t normal). |
Teacher friend’s school was shut yesterday after 7 cases 3 days after opening.
To Marshall’s point in”getting a grip”, the Governments refusal to allow teachers to wear masks or enforce stricter social distancing measures will see these closures increase over winter and lead to more local lockdowns. | | | |
| Schools are safe - Boris Johnson edition on 06:41 - Sep 8 with 1603 views | solomon |
| Schools are safe - Boris Johnson edition on 22:50 - Sep 7 by BlueBadger |
I think we should have actually used the last six months to actually think about how we were going to achieve it, rather than just going 'off you go lads' two weeks beforehand.
Rolling rotas of remote lessons and time onsite, would have a decent start. [Post edited 8 Sep 2020 0:42]
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Or even listen to the people who are gong to be doing the job, this whole episode is a very good lesson in how not to collaborate, typical of Boris and Mr Cummings. |  | | |
| Schools are safe - Boris Johnson edition on 06:47 - Sep 8 with 1602 views | homer_123 |
| Schools are safe - Boris Johnson edition on 22:49 - Sep 7 by ElderGrizzly |
No, not at all.
They should just recognise that teachers and pupils should be following stricter social distancing and allow wider use of face coverings because Covid apparently doesn’t wait outside the school gates |
I'll give you an example of why this would make no difference whatsoever.
My son played football at the weekend, 15 lads that have been mixing for weeks at football.
He goes to school and is in a bubble and doesn't mix with at least half of those 15 during school time.
You can see why the laters social distancing at school can be easily undone by the former. I get that it's about 'reducing risk' at school but given that outside of it pretty much people have given up on social distancing etc. it's all rather moot now. |  |
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| Schools are safe - Boris Johnson edition on 06:48 - Sep 8 with 1596 views | homer_123 |
| Schools are safe - Boris Johnson edition on 23:03 - Sep 7 by Marshalls_Mullet |
Of course there will be some cases of Covid in school, get a grip man.
Why do posters like the fella on Twitter present to be so utterly stupid. |
Is the message that Covid is now OK?
Steep rises in numbers (though at the moment not hospitalisations, thankfully) and nothing, that we know of, has really changed in terms of the virus. | |
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| Schools are safe - Boris Johnson edition on 06:50 - Sep 8 with 1588 views | homer_123 |
| Schools are safe - Boris Johnson edition on 22:41 - Sep 7 by ElderGrizzly |
He is the Super Spreader |
In more than one sense? | |
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| Schools are safe - Boris Johnson edition on 06:51 - Sep 8 with 1594 views | ElderGrizzly |
| Schools are safe - Boris Johnson edition on 06:47 - Sep 8 by homer_123 |
I'll give you an example of why this would make no difference whatsoever.
My son played football at the weekend, 15 lads that have been mixing for weeks at football.
He goes to school and is in a bubble and doesn't mix with at least half of those 15 during school time.
You can see why the laters social distancing at school can be easily undone by the former. I get that it's about 'reducing risk' at school but given that outside of it pretty much people have given up on social distancing etc. it's all rather moot now. |
It would make a difference, otherwise the scientists wouldn’t be advocating it.
Nowhere else are you being asked to mix indoors 8 hours a day for 5 days a week with hundreds of different people.
Outdoors has less risk of course. | | | |
| Schools are safe - Boris Johnson edition on 07:55 - Sep 8 with 1513 views | homer_123 |
| Schools are safe - Boris Johnson edition on 06:51 - Sep 8 by ElderGrizzly |
It would make a difference, otherwise the scientists wouldn’t be advocating it.
Nowhere else are you being asked to mix indoors 8 hours a day for 5 days a week with hundreds of different people.
Outdoors has less risk of course. |
I disagree. If you have kids mixing outside of school at various clubs but also just generally mixing (which they clearly are based on the current Covid spread figures which is higher in the young) - then measures taken at School are being utterly stymied.
I'll give you another example of the idiocy of guidelines. Table tennis - to go to a venue and play I don't need a mask - to sit next to the table, waiting to play I have to weak a mask.
And another. I can go to a Garden Centre have have lunch, no mask required. But to walk around said Garden Centre - I need a mask.
We have two issues here - firstly the now lax approach to social distancing, mask wearing etc. and then the somewhat counter productive guidance. | |
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| Schools are safe - Boris Johnson edition on 08:47 - Sep 8 with 1431 views | Pinewoodblue |
| Schools are safe - Boris Johnson edition on 07:55 - Sep 8 by homer_123 |
I disagree. If you have kids mixing outside of school at various clubs but also just generally mixing (which they clearly are based on the current Covid spread figures which is higher in the young) - then measures taken at School are being utterly stymied.
I'll give you another example of the idiocy of guidelines. Table tennis - to go to a venue and play I don't need a mask - to sit next to the table, waiting to play I have to weak a mask.
And another. I can go to a Garden Centre have have lunch, no mask required. But to walk around said Garden Centre - I need a mask.
We have two issues here - firstly the now lax approach to social distancing, mask wearing etc. and then the somewhat counter productive guidance. |
Seems to me that it is teachers testing positive, at least in Suffolk and Norfolk, leading to schools being closed for one day, for cleaning, and pupils they may have been in contact with asked to isolate for 14 days.
They really also ought to test them straight away. Appreciate they will no doubt test negative but it gets the message over that we all have a part to play by personally following the rules.
There are also examples of teachers being in quarantine when the school term closed. A neighbour, who teaches part time, did extra hours last week to cover for someone who had to quarantine.
Read a report that in the last period analyzed in England 90% of those testing positive were aged between 18-49.
The guy in Birmingham who did the stabbings was able to escape from the scene by drifting into the crowds of those out for a good time and clearly ignoring social distancing. |  |
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| Schools are safe - Boris Johnson edition on 09:07 - Sep 8 with 1390 views | jeera |
| Schools are safe - Boris Johnson edition on 07:55 - Sep 8 by homer_123 |
I disagree. If you have kids mixing outside of school at various clubs but also just generally mixing (which they clearly are based on the current Covid spread figures which is higher in the young) - then measures taken at School are being utterly stymied.
I'll give you another example of the idiocy of guidelines. Table tennis - to go to a venue and play I don't need a mask - to sit next to the table, waiting to play I have to weak a mask.
And another. I can go to a Garden Centre have have lunch, no mask required. But to walk around said Garden Centre - I need a mask.
We have two issues here - firstly the now lax approach to social distancing, mask wearing etc. and then the somewhat counter productive guidance. |
But surely whilst playing TT you're separated by the table so that's self-explanatory, but as an observer you may be closer to others passing [?]
Again sitting at a table in the GC scenario you're in one place. Moving about you're going to pass others, going to breathe on merchandise... |  |
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| Schools are safe - Boris Johnson edition on 09:12 - Sep 8 with 1376 views | homer_123 |
| Schools are safe - Boris Johnson edition on 09:07 - Sep 8 by jeera |
But surely whilst playing TT you're separated by the table so that's self-explanatory, but as an observer you may be closer to others passing [?]
Again sitting at a table in the GC scenario you're in one place. Moving about you're going to pass others, going to breathe on merchandise... |
Our understanding of the virus is that one of the major way it spreads is through respiratory deposits. Which as we already know can travel substantial distances.
So, whilst you are seperated by a table the fact that you are sweating etc. breathing heavily etc. you can far more easily spread in the air and on surfaces. No mask at that point but the minute you sit down in the same venue - you need to put a mask on....a touch late at that point! | |
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| Schools are safe - Boris Johnson edition on 09:13 - Sep 8 with 1374 views | LevelTheLand |
| Schools are safe - Boris Johnson edition on 23:05 - Sep 7 by Marshalls_Mullet |
I don't recall significant amounts of teachers being hospitalised by Covid pre lock down, or during lockdown. |
I know of a case, in Ipswich during lockdown, where a teacher caught Covid from a pupil (so whilst there were significantly less pupils in the classroom). They were later hospitalised because of it, but recovered. Unfortunately, it had already been passed onto a family member, who did not recover.
In other words, don't just assume all is well because you personally aren't aware of 'significant amounts' of cases in a certain profession. |  | | |
| Schools are safe - Boris Johnson edition on 13:31 - Sep 8 with 1245 views | Marshalls_Mullet |
| Schools are safe - Boris Johnson edition on 06:21 - Sep 8 by ElderGrizzly |
You don’t recall lots of teachers being hospitalised during lockdown? I wonder why... |
Lol. Unlucky.
You do understand that some teachers kept working during lockdown? And that the virus could have been caught pre-lockdown but symptoms only start to show post lockdown.
The naivety of your response speaks volumes. | |
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| Schools are safe - Boris Johnson edition on 14:38 - Sep 8 with 1170 views | jeera |
| Schools are safe - Boris Johnson edition on 09:12 - Sep 8 by homer_123 |
Our understanding of the virus is that one of the major way it spreads is through respiratory deposits. Which as we already know can travel substantial distances.
So, whilst you are seperated by a table the fact that you are sweating etc. breathing heavily etc. you can far more easily spread in the air and on surfaces. No mask at that point but the minute you sit down in the same venue - you need to put a mask on....a touch late at that point! |
Then the obvious solution would be a perspex screen across the centre of the table, therefore providing protection to both players.
I'm amazed no one has thought of this. | |
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| Schools are safe - Boris Johnson edition on 15:59 - Sep 8 with 1130 views | ElderGrizzly |
| Schools are safe - Boris Johnson edition on 13:31 - Sep 8 by Marshalls_Mullet |
Lol. Unlucky.
You do understand that some teachers kept working during lockdown? And that the virus could have been caught pre-lockdown but symptoms only start to show post lockdown.
The naivety of your response speaks volumes. |
I do, my relative is a teacher. She worked.
It was your “lots” comment. Which obviously wasn’t making sense as a large percentage of teachers did not go into school post lockdown.
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