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HS2 protest 12:45 - Jan 31 with 711 viewsNthQldITFC

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-55877829

The very last paragraph of this made me laugh. I know it's an editorial error, but somehow it could be what they said, because.

"A government spokesman said HS2 would continue because and form a vital part of the UK's future infrastructure."

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HS2 protest on 13:07 - Jan 31 with 671 viewsfactual_blue

My view FWIW is that our current rail infrastructure is so antiquated that the only way we modernise is with brand new routes.

I blame the incompetence of the Luftwaffe.

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HS2 protest on 13:29 - Jan 31 with 637 viewsSuperKieranMcKenna

The destruction of ancient woodlands is disgusting. Very hard to justify this project with the cost too, can only assume some major cronyism in play.
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Disagree on 13:59 - Jan 31 with 607 viewsunstableblue

HS2 protest on 13:29 - Jan 31 by SuperKieranMcKenna

The destruction of ancient woodlands is disgusting. Very hard to justify this project with the cost too, can only assume some major cronyism in play.


Yes the loss of ancient woodland is terrible, but it’s minimal, and you have to take the long view.... 7 million trees are being planted in phase 1 alone

Our carbon target means no flights from London to manc and no fossil lorries, ASAP.

Trains are just a very efficient means of travel, and freeing the traditional lines for commuter and freight is a win.

Critically, is the jobs created into the supply chain. Would you rather the government furloughed people at home, or build a transport asset for the next century?

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HS2 protest on 14:33 - Jan 31 with 564 viewsRyorry

HS2 always was a ludicrous project, particularly given the ridiculous price tag, always was liable to be underused & a white elephant by the time the first passenger boarded, and doubly so now the pandemic has hastened new ways of working.

A beyond ridiculous waste of stupendous sums of money, but then look who's been in power for the last few years #Cronyism

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Disagree on 14:35 - Jan 31 with 556 viewsPendejo

Disagree on 13:59 - Jan 31 by unstableblue

Yes the loss of ancient woodland is terrible, but it’s minimal, and you have to take the long view.... 7 million trees are being planted in phase 1 alone

Our carbon target means no flights from London to manc and no fossil lorries, ASAP.

Trains are just a very efficient means of travel, and freeing the traditional lines for commuter and freight is a win.

Critically, is the jobs created into the supply chain. Would you rather the government furloughed people at home, or build a transport asset for the next century?


Older trees absorb more carbon than newer trees, not sure of balance between those cut down v those planted

Just don't really get why flying to Manchester cheaper than train, likewise really not a lot in it, when taking into travel to / from both airports, assuming offices / meetings are city centre.
So even reducing travel time may not draw in passengers if the price isn't right.

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Disagree on 14:40 - Jan 31 with 548 viewsSuperKieranMcKenna

Disagree on 13:59 - Jan 31 by unstableblue

Yes the loss of ancient woodland is terrible, but it’s minimal, and you have to take the long view.... 7 million trees are being planted in phase 1 alone

Our carbon target means no flights from London to manc and no fossil lorries, ASAP.

Trains are just a very efficient means of travel, and freeing the traditional lines for commuter and freight is a win.

Critically, is the jobs created into the supply chain. Would you rather the government furloughed people at home, or build a transport asset for the next century?


It’s not just the trees though is it. The loss of habitat and biodiversity. Ecosystems that have built up over 100’s of years. You can’t just transplant that.

https://www.inews.co.uk/news/chris-packhams-stop-hs2-petition-gathers-pace-82283
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Disagree on 14:48 - Jan 31 with 539 viewsRyorry

Disagree on 14:40 - Jan 31 by SuperKieranMcKenna

It’s not just the trees though is it. The loss of habitat and biodiversity. Ecosystems that have built up over 100’s of years. You can’t just transplant that.

https://www.inews.co.uk/news/chris-packhams-stop-hs2-petition-gathers-pace-82283


Happy to sign that 👍

Here's a link directly to the petition - over 146K signatures so far, thereby guaranteeing a debate in the HoP -
https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/563380

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Disagree on 15:01 - Jan 31 with 524 viewseireblue

Disagree on 13:59 - Jan 31 by unstableblue

Yes the loss of ancient woodland is terrible, but it’s minimal, and you have to take the long view.... 7 million trees are being planted in phase 1 alone

Our carbon target means no flights from London to manc and no fossil lorries, ASAP.

Trains are just a very efficient means of travel, and freeing the traditional lines for commuter and freight is a win.

Critically, is the jobs created into the supply chain. Would you rather the government furloughed people at home, or build a transport asset for the next century?


The company I work for has just done its yearly review.

The amount of money saved on travel expenses has been very large, and the company has still managed to progress.

Money saved on travelling is being ploughed back into growth.

I think mass transportation for travelling fast and efficiently was last centuries problem.

I think the argument about the benefit for business, would have to be rationally re-assessed at the very least.
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HS2 protest on 15:38 - Jan 31 with 494 viewsBlueBadger

I suspect it will, in much the same way that Paul Lambert's long term plan and Technical Football will benefit ITFC.

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