| Ironic don't you think? 07:41 - Mar 14 with 3926 views | bluelagos |
Some people will be off to church today, to stand inside, in silence and remember in a dignified way a lost friend, or relative, mother or maybe just to remember Sarah Everard, a young lady brutally murdered.
I wonder if they should be worried about arrest or handcuffing or fines or is that only applicable for people who chose to stand outside, in silence and remember in a dignified way a young lady brutally murdered?
I wonder why are those people in support of the yesterday's police actions on the grounds of public safety not calling for them to break up the many church services today? Services which are more dangerous given they are inside.
Do tell... [Post edited 14 Mar 2021 7:58]
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| Ironic don't you think? on 09:05 - Mar 14 with 1978 views | Guthrum |
The vast majority of churches (including the CofE) are closed for group worship, due to Covid. |  |
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| Ironic don't you think? on 09:12 - Mar 14 with 1948 views | WeWereZombies |
| Ironic don't you think? on 09:05 - Mar 14 by Guthrum |
The vast majority of churches (including the CofE) are closed for group worship, due to Covid. |
And yet a number of the people who previously attended church on Sunday mornings still disappear on Sunday mornings - where do you think they are going? |  |
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| Ironic don't you think? on 09:20 - Mar 14 with 1913 views | Guthrum |
| Ironic don't you think? on 09:12 - Mar 14 by WeWereZombies |
And yet a number of the people who previously attended church on Sunday mornings still disappear on Sunday mornings - where do you think they are going? |
That's a little like saying that some young people are attending raves during lockdown. They shouldn't be, but a few still try to get away with it.
Individual prayer at church premises is still permitted, as, technically, are meetings consisting of no more than two households. But most places (including the CofE) have gone online for the duration. | |
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| Ironic don't you think? on 09:20 - Mar 14 with 1904 views | factual_blue |
| Ironic don't you think? on 09:12 - Mar 14 by WeWereZombies |
And yet a number of the people who previously attended church on Sunday mornings still disappear on Sunday mornings - where do you think they are going? |
Clapham Common bandstand? |  |
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| Ironic don't you think? on 09:21 - Mar 14 with 1904 views | Bobbychase |
Our local church has been turned into an emergency Covid food bank, run by the female vicar in her spare time. No services at the moment due to concerns about spreading the virus.
Under the current rules, they could let people in, but decided not to. |  |
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| Ironic don't you think? on 09:23 - Mar 14 with 1885 views | GlasgowBlue |
Church services aren’t allowed under the current COVID restrictions. [Post edited 14 Mar 2021 9:24]
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| Ironic don't you think? on 09:24 - Mar 14 with 1877 views | GlasgowBlue |
| Ironic don't you think? on 09:12 - Mar 14 by WeWereZombies |
And yet a number of the people who previously attended church on Sunday mornings still disappear on Sunday mornings - where do you think they are going? |
In their homes watching songs of praise? [Post edited 14 Mar 2021 9:25]
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| Ironic don't you think? on 09:24 - Mar 14 with 1878 views | Bobbychase |
| Ironic don't you think? on 09:12 - Mar 14 by WeWereZombies |
And yet a number of the people who previously attended church on Sunday mornings still disappear on Sunday mornings - where do you think they are going? |
Borough Market? Asda? Ransomes Europark? Sainsbury's?
Or it could be they are watching the live streamed services at home. | |
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| Ironic don't you think? on 09:27 - Mar 14 with 1859 views | Bobbychase |
And under the current rules, any church that did open has to have people wearing masks, not singing and spread out to comply with social distancing rules. | |
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| Ironic don't you think? on 09:28 - Mar 14 with 1839 views | WeWereZombies |
| Ironic don't you think? on 09:20 - Mar 14 by Guthrum |
That's a little like saying that some young people are attending raves during lockdown. They shouldn't be, but a few still try to get away with it.
Individual prayer at church premises is still permitted, as, technically, are meetings consisting of no more than two households. But most places (including the CofE) have gone online for the duration. |
'Police were called to warn worshippers who had defied lockdown restrictions by holding a church service in Skye.'
https://www.whfp.com/2021/01/23/police-called-to-unauthorised-church-service-in-
I doubt that there people who are the only ones expecting special treatment during lock down, just the ones who were not careful enough. That's the trouble with clandestine activity, it tends to be clandestine to prevent others finding out about it. I think, from the casual observations that I make, that people getting together for Sunday worship - and getting together indoors (which is understandable given the inclement weather) - is more prevalent that you would believe. | |
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| Ironic don't you think? on 09:29 - Mar 14 with 1838 views | bluelagos |
| Ironic don't you think? on 09:05 - Mar 14 by Guthrum |
The vast majority of churches (including the CofE) are closed for group worship, due to Covid. |
I am challenging the hypocracy of those who chose to condemn the women holding an outdoor vigil who don't also condemn those who hold indoors worship.
One is clealy more dangerous. So why would anyone chose to condemn one and not the other? | |
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| Ironic don't you think? on 09:32 - Mar 14 with 1817 views | J2BLUE |
| Ironic don't you think? on 09:28 - Mar 14 by WeWereZombies |
'Police were called to warn worshippers who had defied lockdown restrictions by holding a church service in Skye.'
https://www.whfp.com/2021/01/23/police-called-to-unauthorised-church-service-in-
I doubt that there people who are the only ones expecting special treatment during lock down, just the ones who were not careful enough. That's the trouble with clandestine activity, it tends to be clandestine to prevent others finding out about it. I think, from the casual observations that I make, that people getting together for Sunday worship - and getting together indoors (which is understandable given the inclement weather) - is more prevalent that you would believe. |
His point is that a minority of any group will break the rules. Posting an example is utterly pointless.
The point we should be concerned with is the one the OP raises about masked protesters socially distanced outdoors being treated like they were. |  |
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| Ironic don't you think? on 09:32 - Mar 14 with 1817 views | BanksterDebtSlave |
There was a point well made about how rammed Brough market was yesterday afternoon and yet no forceful handcuffing resulted! |  |
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| Ironic don't you think? on 09:32 - Mar 14 with 1814 views | Bobbychase |
| Ironic don't you think? on 09:29 - Mar 14 by bluelagos |
I am challenging the hypocracy of those who chose to condemn the women holding an outdoor vigil who don't also condemn those who hold indoors worship.
One is clealy more dangerous. So why would anyone chose to condemn one and not the other? |
Because in the scheme of things, with the vast majority of churches closed, it feels like a straw man argument. Far more Covid spreading going in in supermarkets, food markets and coffee shops than churches at the moment.
The people who would criticise the Clapham vigil have a screw loose. I don't think we should be trying to find logic in their approach. | |
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| Ironic don't you think? on 09:32 - Mar 14 with 1817 views | gtsb1966 |
With all due respect mate you are going well over the top with all this. Because of covid gatherings are banned. No ifs no buts, they are banned. Now chill and enjoy your Sunday. |  | | |
| Ironic don't you think? on 09:33 - Mar 14 with 1813 views | WeWereZombies |
| Ironic don't you think? on 09:29 - Mar 14 by bluelagos |
I am challenging the hypocracy of those who chose to condemn the women holding an outdoor vigil who don't also condemn those who hold indoors worship.
One is clealy more dangerous. So why would anyone chose to condemn one and not the other? |
Dunno - try asking the twenty six unelected bishops who sit in the House of Lords... | |
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| Ironic don't you think? on 09:35 - Mar 14 with 1794 views | Bobbychase |
And yet even though people can gather, almost all have chosen not to for safety reasons.
Weird target to pick tbh. There are house parties galore every night here in Bristol. | |
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| Ironic don't you think? on 09:35 - Mar 14 with 1794 views | ArnoldMoorhen |
1. You are completely wrong on this. Churches have been closed since just after Christmas Day.
2. Churches have worked extremely hard to comply with Covid regulations, and changed practices with Millenia of tradition (eg not sharing wine at Communion, not holding public baptisms, not shaking hands insipidly with the Vicar at the door while muttering "Nice sermon"). As a result there have been no cases of transmission linked to UK church services.
3. Remember that it was the Bishop of Liverpool who stood up to Government pressure over Hillsborough and insisted that all evidence be made publicly available and that every lie was forensically examined and refuted. In these times resistance requires us to be united, so don't fall for their divide and conquer strategies. [Post edited 14 Mar 2021 9:45]
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| Ironic don't you think? on 09:38 - Mar 14 with 1747 views | Bobbychase |
| Ironic don't you think? on 09:35 - Mar 14 by ArnoldMoorhen |
1. You are completely wrong on this. Churches have been closed since just after Christmas Day.
2. Churches have worked extremely hard to comply with Covid regulations, and changed practices with Millenia of tradition (eg not sharing wine at Communion, not holding public baptisms, not shaking hands insipidly with the Vicar at the door while muttering "Nice sermon"). As a result there have been no cases of transmission linked to UK church services.
3. Remember that it was the Bishop of Liverpool who stood up to Government pressure over Hillsborough and insisted that all evidence be made publicly available and that every lie was forensically examined and refuted. In these times resistance requires us to be united, so don't fall for their divide and conquer strategies. [Post edited 14 Mar 2021 9:45]
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Spot on. A weird comparison to make. The stuff that's going round about the way Rangers fans were policed in Glasgow last week compared to Clapham last night is far more relevant. | |
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| Ironic don't you think? on 09:38 - Mar 14 with 1740 views | bluelagos |
| Ironic don't you think? on 09:32 - Mar 14 by gtsb1966 |
With all due respect mate you are going well over the top with all this. Because of covid gatherings are banned. No ifs no buts, they are banned. Now chill and enjoy your Sunday. |
Cani't argue with that. I'll leave it to others to argue the toss :-) | |
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| Ironic don't you think? on 09:39 - Mar 14 with 1734 views | Guthrum |
| Ironic don't you think? on 09:28 - Mar 14 by WeWereZombies |
'Police were called to warn worshippers who had defied lockdown restrictions by holding a church service in Skye.'
https://www.whfp.com/2021/01/23/police-called-to-unauthorised-church-service-in-
I doubt that there people who are the only ones expecting special treatment during lock down, just the ones who were not careful enough. That's the trouble with clandestine activity, it tends to be clandestine to prevent others finding out about it. I think, from the casual observations that I make, that people getting together for Sunday worship - and getting together indoors (which is understandable given the inclement weather) - is more prevalent that you would believe. |
I'm going by what I know from inside church networks in the local area.
Those disobeying the rules are and should be subject to the same kind of enforcement action as yesterday's vigil-holders if they had broken the rules (I don't know the details of what happened in Clapham, beyond that there were a few arrests). | |
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| Ironic don't you think? on 09:40 - Mar 14 with 1729 views | WeWereZombies |
| Ironic don't you think? on 09:24 - Mar 14 by GlasgowBlue |
In their homes watching songs of praise? [Post edited 14 Mar 2021 9:25]
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When I say disappear I don't mean that they are temporarily channelling H.G. Wells and have become invisible. I mean that they have left their homes, at the time that they normally do to go to church. Maybe they are off to someone else's home to watch 'Songs of Praise' (not on until quarter past one, so going off at a quarter to ten is some major savouring of the pre-match build up). | |
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| Ironic don't you think? on 09:40 - Mar 14 with 1726 views | lowhouseblue |
you're comparing the vigil with going to church which are both currently not permitted under covid regs.
how about comparing the vigil to the piers corbyn's events - at one of those he and 18 others were arrested. i thought arresting piers was spot on. |  |
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| Ironic don't you think? on 09:40 - Mar 14 with 1716 views | factual_blue |
| Ironic don't you think? on 09:29 - Mar 14 by bluelagos |
I am challenging the hypocracy of those who chose to condemn the women holding an outdoor vigil who don't also condemn those who hold indoors worship.
One is clealy more dangerous. So why would anyone chose to condemn one and not the other? |
Is a hypocracy government by diabetics? | |
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