Effect of climate change. 07:54 - May 19 with 1852 views | Guthrum | I can tell you that I haven't ever had to fix so many cases of water leaking in through rooves and walls as I have in the last year. Our houses in the UK are not built/maintained for the excessive wet and dry (which can do the damage rain later finds its way through) as we've been getting recently. |  |
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Effect of climate change. on 07:56 - May 19 with 1833 views | StokieBlue | If/when the gulf stream ever shifts they aren't designed for the -25C temperatures and snow load we will get every winter as well. SB |  |
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Effect of climate change. on 09:00 - May 19 with 1716 views | NthQldITFC |
Effect of climate change. on 07:56 - May 19 by StokieBlue | If/when the gulf stream ever shifts they aren't designed for the -25C temperatures and snow load we will get every winter as well. SB |
This site https://www.climatesignals.org/climate-signals/ looks on the face of it to be really handy, with source-linked summaries and agglomerated data. It may be that it exposes some data that wouldn't be available without subscription to the original source. I'd never seen it before, so thought it might be of interest to some. https://www.climatesignals.org/climate-signals/gulf-stream-system-weakening is the starting point for what SB is talking about. If you thought global warming means everywhere will be a nice little bit warmer, think again. |  |
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Effect of climate change. on 10:45 - May 19 with 1587 views | itfcjoe | I think the snow has killed it this year - it was so deep and sat on roofs for so long it just got into the walls abover flashings etc |  |
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Effect of climate change. on 10:51 - May 19 with 1578 views | Guthrum |
Effect of climate change. on 10:45 - May 19 by itfcjoe | I think the snow has killed it this year - it was so deep and sat on roofs for so long it just got into the walls abover flashings etc |
Tho we didn't get much settled snow on this side of the country - and it's still happeneing. I put it down to the volume and intensity of the rain soaking into and through any weaknesses. |  |
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Effect of climate change. on 10:57 - May 19 with 1550 views | itfcjoe |
Effect of climate change. on 10:51 - May 19 by Guthrum | Tho we didn't get much settled snow on this side of the country - and it's still happeneing. I put it down to the volume and intensity of the rain soaking into and through any weaknesses. |
Yep, that certainly isn't helping. Up here though most we saw came from snow as it sat on flat roofs and parapets and just at levels where water doesn't usually sit. It's been a brutal year so far weather wise, making things very difficult |  |
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Effect of climate change. on 12:03 - May 19 with 1413 views | Geomorph | it is all very much relevant to my day job managing/restoring rivers and floodplains in Cumbria. Increased frequency of extreme flooding since late 90s means communities want to seal their rivers in concrete/similar, which just passes the problems on to downstream areas. Folk get twitchy everytime they see a gravel deposit under a bridge. Trying to get the message across that more natural river corridors are more resilient and better ecologically is a painfully slow process... Accelerated coastal roll over (retreat) and damage to defences is also occurring due to probably the combo of sea level rise and intensified storm surge activity... I'm seeing the environmental impacts of CC (and unsustainable land management practises) everywhere TBH |  | |  | Login to get fewer ads
Effect of climate change. on 12:09 - May 19 with 1398 views | giant_stow | One big problem round here has been susbidence from that dry summer a couple of years ago. Loads of cracks in walls as the ground dried out - loads of trees now felled under instructions from insurrence companies. |  |
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Effect of climate change. on 12:14 - May 19 with 1377 views | Geomorph |
Effect of climate change. on 12:09 - May 19 by giant_stow | One big problem round here has been susbidence from that dry summer a couple of years ago. Loads of cracks in walls as the ground dried out - loads of trees now felled under instructions from insurrence companies. |
Interesting - yep it's difficult to deal with change that is both towards a more arid climate yet with bigger extreme events (eg floods). Were now having to deal with water company strategic national plans to shift more water from the north (my area) down to the south over future decades - which will have a big impact on environmental change/aquatic systems up here |  | |  |
Effect of climate change. on 12:15 - May 19 with 1369 views | giant_stow |
Effect of climate change. on 12:14 - May 19 by Geomorph | Interesting - yep it's difficult to deal with change that is both towards a more arid climate yet with bigger extreme events (eg floods). Were now having to deal with water company strategic national plans to shift more water from the north (my area) down to the south over future decades - which will have a big impact on environmental change/aquatic systems up here |
...Sounds pretty momumental as tasks go. Seems like more storage in the south would help too, although how doable that is is over my head. |  |
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Effect of climate change. on 12:34 - May 19 with 1316 views | HARRY10 |
Effect of climate change. on 12:15 - May 19 by giant_stow | ...Sounds pretty momumental as tasks go. Seems like more storage in the south would help too, although how doable that is is over my head. |
Perhaps by having water regarded as a fundamental requirement of society/economy, and therefore treated as such not as a private cash cow |  | |  |
Effect of climate change. on 12:36 - May 19 with 1305 views | Geomorph |
that's the one... |  | |  |
Effect of climate change. on 12:37 - May 19 with 1302 views | Geomorph |
Effect of climate change. on 12:34 - May 19 by HARRY10 | Perhaps by having water regarded as a fundamental requirement of society/economy, and therefore treated as such not as a private cash cow |
totally agree (I work for EA not a water co btw...) [Post edited 19 May 2021 12:38]
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Effect of climate change. on 13:02 - May 19 with 1243 views | NthQldITFC |
I've just had one go at absorbing that and failed, but will try again later! Thanks for the link. |  |
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Effect of climate change. on 18:27 - May 19 with 1125 views | WeWereZombies |
Effect of climate change. on 12:09 - May 19 by giant_stow | One big problem round here has been susbidence from that dry summer a couple of years ago. Loads of cracks in walls as the ground dried out - loads of trees now felled under instructions from insurrence companies. |
And every tree felled is one less piece of water uptake so that when rain falls then flooding is more likely - the insurance 'industry' really should be nationalised...and very heavily rationalised. |  |
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Effect of climate change. on 18:34 - May 19 with 1112 views | EdwardStone |
Effect of climate change. on 18:27 - May 19 by WeWereZombies | And every tree felled is one less piece of water uptake so that when rain falls then flooding is more likely - the insurance 'industry' really should be nationalised...and very heavily rationalised. |
Excellent point I remember reading an article by George Monbiot a decade ago He quote a senior Insurance Company exec who said that it would be far cheaper to remove and compensate all the hill farmers in mid Wales than it was to buy the good citizens of Tewkesbury new sofas and carpets every winter Maybe Brexit will be the catalyst that gets the sheep off, and the trees on, the hills |  | |  |
Effect of climate change. on 18:56 - May 19 with 1073 views | BanksterDebtSlave | Not just sh1t new build quality then? |  |
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Effect of climate change. on 10:45 - May 21 with 890 views | WeWereZombies |
The scale of unplanned development is not restricted to the United Kingdom of course, one of the factors similar to insurance companies thoughtless felling of trees in Britain is the clearance of of mangrove swamps for development on the Gulf Coast in the the United States that made the effects of Hurricane Katrina so much worse: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/4393852.stm |  |
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Effect of climate change. on 11:44 - May 21 with 825 views | StokieBlue | Slightly tangential but still relevant I came across this the other day: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Centralia_mine_fire Absolutely bonkers. Basically a fire started in a coal-seam in a mine in 1962 and will continue to burn for more than another 250 years. It's resulted in two towns being abandoned and levelled due to the toxins being created. SB |  |
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Effect of climate change. on 15:56 - May 21 with 727 views | giant_stow |
Interesting and worrying - my borough is on the list, so all adds up. |  |
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