| " A Very Good Team" the common phrase from opposition managers.. 17:36 - Apr 17 with 5119 views | Pippin1970 |
I want to hear the phrase " I don't want to play a team like Ipswich again ". Hopefully next season we will. |  | | |  |
| " A Very Good Team" the common phrase from opposition managers.. on 17:48 - Apr 17 with 2577 views | backwaywhen |
Quite a few have said that we are the ones to fear in the play offs should we get there , sadly not to be , also many have said Ipswich will be a force next season , and that my friend is where we have to keep the faith and trust KM has learned a few lessons this season , and I for one think next season is our year ! ……… Keep the faith COYBs | | | |
| " A Very Good Team" the common phrase from opposition managers.. on 18:29 - Apr 17 with 2556 views | itfcjoe |
Warne said pre match on Sky Coverage something like that he’s spoken to lots of managers and all of them are saying Ipswich are such a hard team to play against and make it so difficult for you |  |
| |
| " A Very Good Team" the common phrase from opposition managers.. on 19:54 - Apr 17 with 2407 views | pointofblue |
| " A Very Good Team" the common phrase from opposition managers.. on 18:29 - Apr 17 by itfcjoe |
Warne said pre match on Sky Coverage something like that he’s spoken to lots of managers and all of them are saying Ipswich are such a hard team to play against and make it so difficult for you |
For the first half he must have realised what they were talking about. After the second half he was surely wondering what the fuss was about. | |
| |
| " A Very Good Team" the common phrase from opposition managers.. on 20:07 - Apr 17 with 2383 views | ArnieM |
| " A Very Good Team" the common phrase from opposition managers.. on 18:29 - Apr 17 by itfcjoe |
Warne said pre match on Sky Coverage something like that he’s spoken to lots of managers and all of them are saying Ipswich are such a hard team to play against and make it so difficult for you |
So why are we finish8mg in mid table ? |  |
| |
| " A Very Good Team" the common phrase from opposition managers.. on 20:10 - Apr 17 with 2382 views | itfcjoe |
| " A Very Good Team" the common phrase from opposition managers.. on 20:07 - Apr 17 by ArnieM |
So why are we finish8mg in mid table ? |
Because we weren’t hard to play against for the first half of the season and had too much to do | |
| |
| " A Very Good Team" the common phrase from opposition managers.. on 20:16 - Apr 17 with 2369 views | BlueBadger |
| " A Very Good Team" the common phrase from opposition managers.. on 20:07 - Apr 17 by ArnieM |
So why are we finish8mg in mid table ? |
Because we had a terrible manager who nearly half the season 'gelling' the team. [Post edited 17 Apr 2022 21:56]
|  |
| |
| " A Very Good Team" the common phrase from opposition managers.. on 20:22 - Apr 17 with 2330 views | FrimleyBlue |
| " A Very Good Team" the common phrase from opposition managers.. on 20:16 - Apr 17 by BlueBadger |
Because we had a terrible manager who nearly half the season 'gelling' the team. [Post edited 17 Apr 2022 21:56]
|
What about the last 7 games
We may not have finished in playoffs this year. But surely 7th or 8th could have been reached.
If we keep the current run going we could end up 10th. Is that down to the first 20 games only too?
The above BTW isn't to say KM won't get us next year its just I think it shows the squad overall is certainly no where near that it needs to be. Had a slight honeymoon period under KM but now its back to midtable league 1 form. Last 10 games has us in 11th I think .
[Post edited 17 Apr 2022 20:28]
|  |
| |
| " A Very Good Team" the common phrase from opposition managers.. on 20:26 - Apr 17 with 2330 views | JDB23 |
While its good to hear these things, I don't take too much stock in what other managers are saying. It's pretty common to speak well of your opponents, how many times did we have to listen to Lambert, and to a lesser extent Mick, hype up absolute pub teams just to cover themselves.
We just need to focus on ourselves. I think this bad patch of form could be good for us in the long run, keeps everyone grounded and not believing we just have to turn up next season and stroll to the title which a lot of the noise was a few weeks ago. [Post edited 17 Apr 2022 20:26]
| | | |
Login to get fewer ads
| " A Very Good Team" the common phrase from opposition managers.. on 20:28 - Apr 17 with 2315 views | BarcaBlue |
| " A Very Good Team" the common phrase from opposition managers.. on 20:22 - Apr 17 by FrimleyBlue |
What about the last 7 games
We may not have finished in playoffs this year. But surely 7th or 8th could have been reached.
If we keep the current run going we could end up 10th. Is that down to the first 20 games only too?
The above BTW isn't to say KM won't get us next year its just I think it shows the squad overall is certainly no where near that it needs to be. Had a slight honeymoon period under KM but now its back to midtable league 1 form. Last 10 games has us in 11th I think .
[Post edited 17 Apr 2022 20:28]
|
You haven't thought this through, have you? Wherever we finish will be influenced by the first 20 games as well as the following 20 games, it's how a final points total is achieved. |  | | |
| " A Very Good Team" the common phrase from opposition managers.. on 20:31 - Apr 17 with 2284 views | FrimleyBlue |
| " A Very Good Team" the common phrase from opposition managers.. on 20:28 - Apr 17 by BarcaBlue |
You haven't thought this through, have you? Wherever we finish will be influenced by the first 20 games as well as the following 20 games, it's how a final points total is achieved. |
Of course it plays a part. But kms now had enough games for people to stop using it like its the ONLY reason we are where we are. The first 20 games didn't result in our form over the last 10 games.
PC era has gone. Its defo played a part in why we didn't finish top 6, but we've had plenty games his sacking to get a higher finish than we are about to have.
We can't score goals. We still haven't won 3 in a row. Etc etc
There's a 3 win difference thats all, between the two 20 game periods being compared on here
1 of which under PC. Had no Walton in it for over 50% of those games. No celina as often as now. No morsy for 8 of those games and no burns for 8 of them.
So is it right to compare the two periods when the players a available were so different?
[Post edited 17 Apr 2022 20:48]
| |
| |
| " A Very Good Team" the common phrase from opposition managers.. on 20:43 - Apr 17 with 2248 views | Illinoisblue |
| " A Very Good Team" the common phrase from opposition managers.. on 20:22 - Apr 17 by FrimleyBlue |
What about the last 7 games
We may not have finished in playoffs this year. But surely 7th or 8th could have been reached.
If we keep the current run going we could end up 10th. Is that down to the first 20 games only too?
The above BTW isn't to say KM won't get us next year its just I think it shows the squad overall is certainly no where near that it needs to be. Had a slight honeymoon period under KM but now its back to midtable league 1 form. Last 10 games has us in 11th I think .
[Post edited 17 Apr 2022 20:28]
|
Who gives a fk if we finish 10th or 7th? Are we missing out on 50 quid’s worth of L1 merit payments?
The season is a failure. On to the next one. |  |
| |
| " A Very Good Team" the common phrase from opposition managers.. on 20:45 - Apr 17 with 2233 views | FrimleyBlue |
| " A Very Good Team" the common phrase from opposition managers.. on 20:43 - Apr 17 by Illinoisblue |
Who gives a fk if we finish 10th or 7th? Are we missing out on 50 quid’s worth of L1 merit payments?
The season is a failure. On to the next one. |
Football is football. I'd just rather see us finish as high as we can regardless of what it doesn't achieve. | |
| |
| " A Very Good Team" the common phrase from opposition managers.. on 20:59 - Apr 17 with 2206 views | BarcaBlue |
| " A Very Good Team" the common phrase from opposition managers.. on 20:31 - Apr 17 by FrimleyBlue |
Of course it plays a part. But kms now had enough games for people to stop using it like its the ONLY reason we are where we are. The first 20 games didn't result in our form over the last 10 games.
PC era has gone. Its defo played a part in why we didn't finish top 6, but we've had plenty games his sacking to get a higher finish than we are about to have.
We can't score goals. We still haven't won 3 in a row. Etc etc
There's a 3 win difference thats all, between the two 20 game periods being compared on here
1 of which under PC. Had no Walton in it for over 50% of those games. No celina as often as now. No morsy for 8 of those games and no burns for 8 of them.
So is it right to compare the two periods when the players a available were so different?
[Post edited 17 Apr 2022 20:48]
|
Go easy on the edit button.
I really don't need to study the stats to appreciate the improvement, and I don't need to consider arbitrary 7 or 10 match periods. You'd think any fool could appreciate what McKenna has done from a standing start over ALL the time he's been here.
Why bring up Burns or Celina being missing when you'd get rid of them anyway? It also assumes McKenna has always had a full squad to choose from, which you've ignored. | | | |
| " A Very Good Team" the common phrase from opposition managers.. on 21:15 - Apr 17 with 2178 views | ElderGrizzly |
| " A Very Good Team" the common phrase from opposition managers.. on 20:28 - Apr 17 by BarcaBlue |
You haven't thought this through, have you? Wherever we finish will be influenced by the first 20 games as well as the following 20 games, it's how a final points total is achieved. |
Agree.
First 10 games under =10 pts
Last 10 games under McKenna = 14 pts
McKenna has his work cut out in the summer, but truly believe he will get what he wants |  | | |
| " A Very Good Team" the common phrase from opposition managers.. on 21:30 - Apr 17 with 2138 views | FrimleyBlue |
| " A Very Good Team" the common phrase from opposition managers.. on 20:59 - Apr 17 by BarcaBlue |
Go easy on the edit button.
I really don't need to study the stats to appreciate the improvement, and I don't need to consider arbitrary 7 or 10 match periods. You'd think any fool could appreciate what McKenna has done from a standing start over ALL the time he's been here.
Why bring up Burns or Celina being missing when you'd get rid of them anyway? It also assumes McKenna has always had a full squad to choose from, which you've ignored. |
No one has said they haven't seen any improvement under KM of certain aspects. That's the minimum you'd hope for after changing managers.
The players mentioned are because they are the ones available and selected by KM who PC didn't have the opportunity to use as often. So for me it's an unfair comparison of two 20 game periods. Imo. That's not saying PC didn't fk up. End of the day he chose not to play Wolfenden etc so that's on him. But KM has had it easier than PC this season with the players available to him. | |
| |
| " A Very Good Team" the common phrase from opposition managers.. on 21:38 - Apr 17 with 2127 views | BarcaBlue |
| " A Very Good Team" the common phrase from opposition managers.. on 21:30 - Apr 17 by FrimleyBlue |
No one has said they haven't seen any improvement under KM of certain aspects. That's the minimum you'd hope for after changing managers.
The players mentioned are because they are the ones available and selected by KM who PC didn't have the opportunity to use as often. So for me it's an unfair comparison of two 20 game periods. Imo. That's not saying PC didn't fk up. End of the day he chose not to play Wolfenden etc so that's on him. But KM has had it easier than PC this season with the players available to him. |
So, McKenna has had it easier than Cook who had an end of season, pre--season, 17 odd players of his own choice, then 20 odd games to get a tune out of them? Is that right? | | | |
| " A Very Good Team" the common phrase from opposition managers.. on 21:48 - Apr 17 with 2101 views | pointofblue |
| " A Very Good Team" the common phrase from opposition managers.. on 21:38 - Apr 17 by BarcaBlue |
So, McKenna has had it easier than Cook who had an end of season, pre--season, 17 odd players of his own choice, then 20 odd games to get a tune out of them? Is that right? |
Cook's claim in his post sacking interview, in a way, was exactly that - he had bedded in the squad and was just getting them to move in the right direction. I mean, I'm not sure if any of US saw that on the pitch but that's what he said. | |
| |
| " A Very Good Team" the common phrase from opposition managers.. on 21:49 - Apr 17 with 2096 views | FrimleyBlue |
| " A Very Good Team" the common phrase from opposition managers.. on 21:38 - Apr 17 by BarcaBlue |
So, McKenna has had it easier than Cook who had an end of season, pre--season, 17 odd players of his own choice, then 20 odd games to get a tune out of them? Is that right? |
Yes he has. As mentioned already PC didn't help himself with certain situations and was rightly sacked for his results overall, but he also didn't have what KM has had. Which is an 88% squad availability each week, a side who had taken time to get settled etc etc.
Again that's not saying KM hasn't done a solid job with certain aspects, but it's the minimum you would have expected by a new manager with this squad. He has however also shown its limitations with its goal scoring struggles, inability to win a run of games etc. That's not on him imo, that's due to a full but unbalanced squad. He's been able to use the best available within the squad but it's not good enough. Now it's upto him this summer to put his mark on it and make it ready for promotion next season. | |
| |
| " A Very Good Team" the common phrase from opposition managers.. on 21:56 - Apr 17 with 2079 views | FrimleyBlue |
| " A Very Good Team" the common phrase from opposition managers.. on 21:48 - Apr 17 by pointofblue |
Cook's claim in his post sacking interview, in a way, was exactly that - he had bedded in the squad and was just getting them to move in the right direction. I mean, I'm not sure if any of US saw that on the pitch but that's what he said. |
Well it would have been interesting to see how it went for PC once burns was back for example which KM has had the luxury of using.
Before PC sacking. Burns last 4 games under PC were 2 wins, 2 draws. PC didn't have him for 6 games upto his sacking. | |
| |
| " A Very Good Team" the common phrase from opposition managers.. on 21:59 - Apr 17 with 2074 views | BarcaBlue |
| " A Very Good Team" the common phrase from opposition managers.. on 21:49 - Apr 17 by FrimleyBlue |
Yes he has. As mentioned already PC didn't help himself with certain situations and was rightly sacked for his results overall, but he also didn't have what KM has had. Which is an 88% squad availability each week, a side who had taken time to get settled etc etc.
Again that's not saying KM hasn't done a solid job with certain aspects, but it's the minimum you would have expected by a new manager with this squad. He has however also shown its limitations with its goal scoring struggles, inability to win a run of games etc. That's not on him imo, that's due to a full but unbalanced squad. He's been able to use the best available within the squad but it's not good enough. Now it's upto him this summer to put his mark on it and make it ready for promotion next season. |
You've written a lot of words but very little sense when trying to make sense of the point you are trying to make. I don't see how you're claiming McKenna has had an easier job. I don't see how you think Cook was hampered by Celina and Burns missing some matches when you'd get rid of them anyway. I don't understand how you can ignore McKenna not having a full squad either. | | | |
| " A Very Good Team" the common phrase from opposition managers.. on 22:01 - Apr 17 with 2069 views | BarcaBlue |
| " A Very Good Team" the common phrase from opposition managers.. on 21:56 - Apr 17 by FrimleyBlue |
Well it would have been interesting to see how it went for PC once burns was back for example which KM has had the luxury of using.
Before PC sacking. Burns last 4 games under PC were 2 wins, 2 draws. PC didn't have him for 6 games upto his sacking. |
...but you'd get rid of him. | | | |
| " A Very Good Team" the common phrase from opposition managers.. on 22:05 - Apr 17 with 2056 views | BarcaBlue |
| " A Very Good Team" the common phrase from opposition managers.. on 21:48 - Apr 17 by pointofblue |
Cook's claim in his post sacking interview, in a way, was exactly that - he had bedded in the squad and was just getting them to move in the right direction. I mean, I'm not sure if any of US saw that on the pitch but that's what he said. |
There was a joke made after McKenna took over that Cook's players and team had finally gelled. Are you saying that wasn't a joke and that was the reality of the situation? | | | |
| " A Very Good Team" the common phrase from opposition managers.. on 22:05 - Apr 17 with 2053 views | itfcjoe |
| " A Very Good Team" the common phrase from opposition managers.. on 21:59 - Apr 17 by BarcaBlue |
You've written a lot of words but very little sense when trying to make sense of the point you are trying to make. I don't see how you're claiming McKenna has had an easier job. I don't see how you think Cook was hampered by Celina and Burns missing some matches when you'd get rid of them anyway. I don't understand how you can ignore McKenna not having a full squad either. |
Cook was the messiah to this poster after utterly failing the 16 games he had last season, and then he totally flip flopped at some point, then he didn’t like McKenna from first presser and has now flip flopped back to start defending Cook at every turn to criticise McKenna
It’s very strange, but best to just stick him on ignore like most of the board have done | |
| |
| " A Very Good Team" the common phrase from opposition managers.. on 22:09 - Apr 17 with 2031 views | FrimleyBlue |
| " A Very Good Team" the common phrase from opposition managers.. on 21:59 - Apr 17 by BarcaBlue |
You've written a lot of words but very little sense when trying to make sense of the point you are trying to make. I don't see how you're claiming McKenna has had an easier job. I don't see how you think Cook was hampered by Celina and Burns missing some matches when you'd get rid of them anyway. I don't understand how you can ignore McKenna not having a full squad either. |
Because whilst I think we can bring it better players for how KM wants to play next season. that doesn't mean they aren't the better players of those available in this seasons squad.
If you don't have celina for example what's the other option who's better? there isn't a better option from those available at the club at this time.
Regarding the ignoring bit. Who's ignoring it. He's had 88% squad availability that's insane. | |
| |
| " A Very Good Team" the common phrase from opposition managers.. on 22:12 - Apr 17 with 2027 views | pointofblue |
| " A Very Good Team" the common phrase from opposition managers.. on 21:56 - Apr 17 by FrimleyBlue |
Well it would have been interesting to see how it went for PC once burns was back for example which KM has had the luxury of using.
Before PC sacking. Burns last 4 games under PC were 2 wins, 2 draws. PC didn't have him for 6 games upto his sacking. |
Though, on those grounds, you could say it would be interesting to see how McKenna would have done over the last few games with Edmundson, Evans and Jackson available. | |
| |
| |
By continuing to use the site, you agree to our use of cookies and to abide by our Terms and Conditions.
